In a message dated 1/10/2006 2:34:20 PM Central Standard Time, wb@wvi.com writes: Send us a snapshot. Hey grab the wire and give it a spin, tell us if the cranker still works. Dan M ============== That is what the Uncles use to get us dumb kids to do is grab on and hod each others hands. It had quite a tickle. LOL Barbara In Oklahoma Native America