You are most welcome. I, too, am learning much with which I am unfamiliar, have never known, so plan to remain on this list and read regularly. Fran Chinquapin On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:22 AM, <wthreerivers@aol.com> wrote: > > Good morning Fran > > Thank you for the great explanation. It is something that I am not > familiar with and cannot recall any stories before this relative to this. > > This is a site that allows me to learn many things from others. > > William Threerivers > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fran West-Powe <fwestpowe@gmail.com> > To: cherokee <cherokee@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:05 pm > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs > > > William Threerivers, I know not how to explain any better but will try > again. According to my Granny's beliefs, and consequently, my beliefs, any > animal or bird that shows a liking for a human being becomes the sign for > that human being. That bird or that animal will guide his human to food, > water, whatever is necessary, if such is necessary. Sometimes in dreams > that bird or animal sign will show things to come to his human friend. That > bird or animal sign remains with its human all the days of the human. In > turn, that human does not kill or harm any bird/animal of that species and > regularly reminds his sign, bird or animal, of his human gratitude. > > The statement above is not to be construed as worship. All have God to > worship. > > Now here are two things to point out: 1.) rarely in modern life does a > human need being led to food and water, but back in my young days that > could sometimes happen 2.) having left my roots long ago, I do not often > hear of any human who has been blessed by an animal or bird sign, so when a > person approached and asked what I knew about the hawk sign I had to > confess I did not know. The male about whom my neighbor inquired was born > in Germany of German parents whose lineage goes back for generations, in > Germany. I was quite startled and unsure of what to say when the neighbor > described in detail the up close and personal (that from my great grands) > signs the German male had received from a hawk. > > My grands told me of these rootsweb Native lists so I thought that here is > the place to gather information. From some of the writers who have related > their encounters with bird/animal, I have concluded that these kinds of > encounters do happen to folks from all walks of life and that I did not > know. > > And that brings me back to my original inquiry: what does the hawk sign > represent to a German male who at this time of life is suffering? > > Thank you. > > Fran > Chinquapin > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM, <wthreerivers@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > I have to admit, I have never heard of this either but I would interested > > to learn more > > > > William Threerivers > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fran West-Powe <fwestpowe@gmail.com> > > To: CHEROKEE <CHEROKEE@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sun, Jan 19, 2014 4:11 pm > > Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs > > > > > > As a child, my late Granny taught me that animals, and especially birds, > > that appear to us/near us, on friendly terms, are our "sign" and that > > animal, in this case, bird, is to be thanked for its presence and help as > > this was sign of special favor by that bird. > > > > My bird sign is the owl; my animal sign is the snake. > > > > Now, it happens that I am old woman, raised in swamps and back woods so > > maybe that animal/bird sign doesn't happen anymore. > > > > So I know that happens to Native peoples but don't know what to make of > its > > happening to a man born in Germany. > > > > Regret lack of clarity, but I know not how else to explain. > > > > Fran > > Chinquapin > > ======*====== > > List archives > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of > > the message > > > > > > ======*====== > > List archives > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >