Ok, Lily Foot born 1880 Alabama, thats all I have. I believed she probably passed in Tx, since thats where my family is from -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Gaston Reece <bjreece@bellsouth.net> To: cherokee <cherokee@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 2:39 pm Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] CHEROKEE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 Not nearly enough information Lisa....who, what, when, where? Joyce Gaston Reece ----Original Message----- rom: Lisa ent: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:36 PM o: cherokee@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] CHEROKEE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 need a way to trck my cherokee family. My great grandmother was Lilly oot. How can I get the information? -----Original Message----- rom: Adiene Humble <ahumble@consolidated.net> o: cherokee <cherokee@rootsweb.com> ent: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 2:18 pm ubject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] CHEROKEE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 oved the owl story and of your grandmother. ent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:00 AM, cherokee-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hawk signs (Fran West-Powe) 2. HOW THE CHILDREN OF PIV?NHONK'API OBTAINED PERMISSION TO CATCH BIRDS ? Hopi (Blue Panther) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:11:41 -0500 rom: Fran West-Powe <fwestpowe@gmail.com> ubject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs o: cherokee@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <CAKjSzTi5m_LKZRikFibaksne9c6Jk=xC8ic2-jXComaqVMTLiQ@mail.gmail.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Blue Panther, no, I did not know that, or likely, at my age, do not emember that. Thank you. Fran hinquapin n Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Blue Panther Blue_Panther@otelco.net>wrote: > Remember the Owl in cherokee is the eagle of the night. -----Original Message----- From: Alli :) Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 4:03 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs Wow......fantastic experience. Its enlightening & entertaining........that's just amazing to have that experience. Thank you for sharing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fran West-Powe" <fwestpowe@gmail.com> To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:53:50 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs Alli, thank you for relating your experience. I begin to suspect you are correct and that non-Native People also receive bird/animal signs. I will write about my owl sign: it's been a long, long time but I think I was about four or five years old when a baby owl came and sat on my outstretched legs as I sat playing in the dirt. Its talons didn't hurt me, so I just sat still waiting for its mother to come and swoop it up and maybe me with it. Not sure I was afraid just knowledgeable of the ways of some of our wild things. Anyway, the baby owl didn't leave me. Sometimes it hopped around on the ground but did not stray far; nor did its mother come to get it. We called them hoot owls but have no idea of the real name of the bird. When I got home, the baby owl was on my arm, clutching, but not hurting me. My Granny said oh, my! Oh, my! Granny told me that if I brought the baby owl into the house, it would not learn to feed and care for itself, so I had to leave him/it outside. I begged her to let me stay outside with my owl but she was firm. (Now many, many moons later, I understand.) I set it down on a post near the house where our gourds grew, went inside and cried myself to sleep, fully expecting the baby to die overnight. To shorten a years long story, my owl survived and, laugh at this if you will, I named it Hooter. My grands and grgrands have told me about Hooter's and that I should not reveal the name of my owl. Hooter never ceased flying to me and sitting on me, never leaving a mark on my skin and that alone is miraculous. My Granny consulted another woman who was called, as best I can write it, a see-er or seeehr. This woman explained about the meaning of my bird sign, some of the meaning was good, some not so good, at least as applied to a human being. But I am blessed, said she, by having such an outstanding bird sign. When my Granny passed on to our world beyond, Hooter let all the neighbors know by hooting all night and into the day, a rarity for the owl to be out and about day-time. Maybe this will be either entertaining or enlightening. Fran Chinquapin ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----------------------------- Message: 2 ate: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:16:17 -0600 rom: "Blue Panther" <Blue_Panther@otelco.net> ubject: [Cherokee Circle] HOW THE CHILDREN OF PIV?NHONK'API OBTAINED PERMISSION TO CATCH BIRDS ? Hopi o: <cherokee@rootsweb.com>, "CherokeeChat" <CherokeeChat@yahoogroups.com>, CherokeeMAINVillage@yahoogroups.com>, "Dan Perry" <runningtree@mediacombb.net>, "indigenous_peoples_literature" <indigenous_peoples_literature@yahoogroups.com>, <littlewolfstraditions@yahoogroups.com>, "Native_Village" <Native_village@yahoogroups.com>, "redroad" <Tradition_OF_The_Redroad@yahoogroups.com>, "summonthewolf" <summonthewolf@yahoogroups.com> essage-ID: <CC4807E908644A00B2CE8FBB024DE2D7@BearsdenPC> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" HOW THE CHILDREN OF PIV?NHONK'API OBTAINED PERMISSION TO CATCH BIRDS ? Hopi Hal?ksai! At H?'kovi they were living, and at Piv?nhonk'api they were also ving. At both places there were a great many children, and they always went wn to Mum?shva (a spring named after a certain herb and grass that grows in e spring), where they were setting bird traps. They were often at enmity ith e another on account of the birds. One morning they again went to trap irds. ey again became very angry at one another on account of the trapping, and he 'kovi children said to the children of Piv?nhonk'api that they should not rap rds there. But they said if they would give them something they could trap rds there. So the children from Piv?nhonk'api ran back to the village and ot ch things as k?t?'ki, p?ki, and different other articles of food, and gave em to the children of H?'kovi, so that the latter carried home a great deal f od which they had purchased for the permission given to the Piv?nhonkapi ildren to catch birds there, and after that! ! he children from both villages were always catching birds there, and maybe ey are catching birds there still. Footnotes: Told by Kw?yeshva (Ora?bi). Abstract: HOW THE CHILDREN OF PIV?NHONK'API OBTAINED PERMISSION TO CATCH BIRDS. Children living at Hukovi and at Piv?nhonk'api go to spring to trap birds. ey are angry with each other. Hukovi children tell others they will not rap rds there, but that they can if they give them something. Children from v?nhonk'api go and get food, which they give to children from Hukovi. After at, children from both villages always catch birds there Traditions of the Hopi, by H.R. Voth. Field Columbian Museum Publication 96, thropological Series Vol VIII. Chicago. [1905] and is now in the public main? ----------------------------- To contact the CHEROKEE list administrator, send an email to HEROKEE-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Have you looked on the 1880 census or the 1900 census? She could possibly be on the 1880 census depending on when, exactly, she was born. Look for a marriage record with the husband's name and Lily ___ assuming that is her married name? In Alabama and Texas. She should have a death certificate and that should have her parents name. Start with the most recent you have and work your way back. I did a quick search on ancestry and got no hits....none at all...that's unusual Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:48 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] CHEROKEE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 Ok, Lily Foot born 1880 Alabama, thats all I have. I believed she probably passed in Tx, since thats where my family is from -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Gaston Reece <bjreece@bellsouth.net> To: cherokee <cherokee@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 2:39 pm Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] CHEROKEE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 Not nearly enough information Lisa....who, what, when, where? Joyce Gaston Reece ----Original Message----- rom: Lisa ent: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:36 PM o: cherokee@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] CHEROKEE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 need a way to trck my cherokee family. My great grandmother was Lilly oot. How can I get the information? -----Original Message----- rom: Adiene Humble <ahumble@consolidated.net> o: cherokee <cherokee@rootsweb.com> ent: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 2:18 pm ubject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] CHEROKEE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 oved the owl story and of your grandmother. ent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:00 AM, cherokee-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hawk signs (Fran West-Powe) 2. HOW THE CHILDREN OF PIV?NHONK'API OBTAINED PERMISSION TO CATCH BIRDS ? Hopi (Blue Panther) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:11:41 -0500 rom: Fran West-Powe <fwestpowe@gmail.com> ubject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs o: cherokee@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <CAKjSzTi5m_LKZRikFibaksne9c6Jk=xC8ic2-jXComaqVMTLiQ@mail.gmail.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Blue Panther, no, I did not know that, or likely, at my age, do not emember that. Thank you. Fran hinquapin n Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Blue Panther Blue_Panther@otelco.net>wrote: > Remember the Owl in cherokee is the eagle of the night. -----Original Message----- From: Alli :) Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 4:03 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs Wow......fantastic experience. Its enlightening & entertaining........that's just amazing to have that experience. Thank you for sharing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fran West-Powe" <fwestpowe@gmail.com> To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:53:50 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs Alli, thank you for relating your experience. I begin to suspect you are correct and that non-Native People also receive bird/animal signs. I will write about my owl sign: it's been a long, long time but I think I was about four or five years old when a baby owl came and sat on my outstretched legs as I sat playing in the dirt. Its talons didn't hurt me, so I just sat still waiting for its mother to come and swoop it up and maybe me with it. Not sure I was afraid just knowledgeable of the ways of some of our wild things. Anyway, the baby owl didn't leave me. Sometimes it hopped around on the ground but did not stray far; nor did its mother come to get it. We called them hoot owls but have no idea of the real name of the bird. When I got home, the baby owl was on my arm, clutching, but not hurting me. My Granny said oh, my! Oh, my! Granny told me that if I brought the baby owl into the house, it would not learn to feed and care for itself, so I had to leave him/it outside. I begged her to let me stay outside with my owl but she was firm. (Now many, many moons later, I understand.) I set it down on a post near the house where our gourds grew, went inside and cried myself to sleep, fully expecting the baby to die overnight. To shorten a years long story, my owl survived and, laugh at this if you will, I named it Hooter. My grands and grgrands have told me about Hooter's and that I should not reveal the name of my owl. Hooter never ceased flying to me and sitting on me, never leaving a mark on my skin and that alone is miraculous. My Granny consulted another woman who was called, as best I can write it, a see-er or seeehr. This woman explained about the meaning of my bird sign, some of the meaning was good, some not so good, at least as applied to a human being. But I am blessed, said she, by having such an outstanding bird sign. When my Granny passed on to our world beyond, Hooter let all the neighbors know by hooting all night and into the day, a rarity for the owl to be out and about day-time. Maybe this will be either entertaining or enlightening. Fran Chinquapin ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----------------------------- Message: 2 ate: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:16:17 -0600 rom: "Blue Panther" <Blue_Panther@otelco.net> ubject: [Cherokee Circle] HOW THE CHILDREN OF PIV?NHONK'API OBTAINED PERMISSION TO CATCH BIRDS ? Hopi o: <cherokee@rootsweb.com>, "CherokeeChat" <CherokeeChat@yahoogroups.com>, CherokeeMAINVillage@yahoogroups.com>, "Dan Perry" <runningtree@mediacombb.net>, "indigenous_peoples_literature" <indigenous_peoples_literature@yahoogroups.com>, <littlewolfstraditions@yahoogroups.com>, "Native_Village" <Native_village@yahoogroups.com>, "redroad" <Tradition_OF_The_Redroad@yahoogroups.com>, "summonthewolf" <summonthewolf@yahoogroups.com> essage-ID: <CC4807E908644A00B2CE8FBB024DE2D7@BearsdenPC> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" HOW THE CHILDREN OF PIV?NHONK'API OBTAINED PERMISSION TO CATCH BIRDS ? Hopi Hal?ksai! At H?'kovi they were living, and at Piv?nhonk'api they were also ving. At both places there were a great many children, and they always went wn to Mum?shva (a spring named after a certain herb and grass that grows in e spring), where they were setting bird traps. They were often at enmity ith e another on account of the birds. One morning they again went to trap irds. ey again became very angry at one another on account of the trapping, and he 'kovi children said to the children of Piv?nhonk'api that they should not rap rds there. But they said if they would give them something they could trap rds there. So the children from Piv?nhonk'api ran back to the village and ot ch things as k?t?'ki, p?ki, and different other articles of food, and gave em to the children of H?'kovi, so that the latter carried home a great deal f od which they had purchased for the permission given to the Piv?nhonkapi ildren to catch birds there, and after that! ! he children from both villages were always catching birds there, and maybe ey are catching birds there still. Footnotes: Told by Kw?yeshva (Ora?bi). Abstract: HOW THE CHILDREN OF PIV?NHONK'API OBTAINED PERMISSION TO CATCH BIRDS. Children living at Hukovi and at Piv?nhonk'api go to spring to trap birds. ey are angry with each other. Hukovi children tell others they will not rap rds there, but that they can if they give them something. Children from v?nhonk'api go and get food, which they give to children from Hukovi. After at, children from both villages always catch birds there Traditions of the Hopi, by H.R. Voth. Field Columbian Museum Publication 96, thropological Series Vol VIII. Chicago. [1905] and is now in the public main? ----------------------------- To contact the CHEROKEE list administrator, send an email to HEROKEE-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Dont think I speeled it right, it says on one census Lillie Foot -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Gaston Reece <bjreece@bellsouth.net> To: cherokee <cherokee@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 3:02 pm Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] CHEROKEE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 Have you looked on the 1880 census or the 1900 census? She could possibly e on the 1880 census depending on when, exactly, she was born. Look for a arriage record with the husband's name and Lily ___ assuming that is her arried name? In Alabama and Texas. She should have a death certificate nd that should have her parents name. Start with the most recent you have nd work your way back. I did a quick search on ancestry and got no hits....none at all...that's nusual Joyce Gaston Reece ----Original Message----- rom: Lisa ent: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:48 PM o: cherokee@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] CHEROKEE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 k, Lily Foot born 1880 Alabama, thats all I have. I believed she probably assed in Tx, since thats where my family is from ----Original Message----- rom: Joyce Gaston Reece <bjreece@bellsouth.net> o: cherokee <cherokee@rootsweb.com> ent: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 2:39 pm ubject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] CHEROKEE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 ot nearly enough information Lisa....who, what, when, where? Joyce Gaston Reece ---Original Message----- om: Lisa nt: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:36 PM : cherokee@rootsweb.com bject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] CHEROKEE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 need a way to trck my cherokee family. My great grandmother was Lilly ot. How can I get the information? -----Original Message----- om: Adiene Humble <ahumble@consolidated.net> : cherokee <cherokee@rootsweb.com> nt: Fri, Jan 24, 2014 2:18 pm bject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] CHEROKEE Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15 oved the owl story and of your grandmother. nt from my iPhone n Jan 24, 2014, at 2:00 AM, cherokee-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hawk signs (Fran West-Powe) 2. HOW THE CHILDREN OF PIV?NHONK'API OBTAINED PERMISSION TO CATCH BIRDS ? Hopi (Blue Panther) --------------------------------------------------------------------- essage: 1 te: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:11:41 -0500 om: Fran West-Powe <fwestpowe@gmail.com> bject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs : cherokee@rootsweb.com ssage-ID: <CAKjSzTi5m_LKZRikFibaksne9c6Jk=xC8ic2-jXComaqVMTLiQ@mail.gmail.com> ntent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 lue Panther, no, I did not know that, or likely, at my age, do not member that. hank you. ran inquapin n Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Blue Panther lue_Panther@otelco.net>wrote: Remember the Owl in cherokee is the eagle of the night. -----Original Message----- rom: Alli :) ent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 4:03 PM o: cherokee@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs Wow......fantastic experience. Its enlightening & entertaining........that's just amazing to have that xperience. Thank you for sharing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fran West-Powe" <fwestpowe@gmail.com> o: cherokee@rootsweb.com ent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:53:50 PM ubject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs Alli, thank you for relating your experience. I begin to suspect you are orrect and that non-Native People also receive bird/animal signs. I will write about my owl sign: it's been a long, long time but I think I as about four or five years old when a baby owl came and sat on my utstretched legs as I sat playing in the dirt. Its talons didn't hurt me, o I just sat still waiting for its mother to come and swoop it up and aybe e with it. Not sure I was afraid just knowledgeable of the ways of some f ur wild things. Anyway, the baby owl didn't leave me. Sometimes it hopped around on the round but did not stray far; nor did its mother come to get it. We called hem hoot owls but have no idea of the real name of the bird. When I got ome, the baby owl was on my arm, clutching, but not hurting me. My Granny aid oh, my! Oh, my! Granny told me that if I brought the baby owl into the house, it would not earn to feed and care for itself, so I had to leave him/it outside. I egged her to let me stay outside with my owl but she was firm. (Now many, any moons later, I understand.) I set it down on a post near the house here our gourds grew, went inside and cried myself to sleep, fully xpecting the baby to die overnight. To shorten a years long story, my owl survived and, laugh at this if you ill, I named it Hooter. My grands and grgrands have told me about ooter's nd that I should not reveal the name of my owl. Hooter never ceased flying to me and sitting on me, never leaving a mark n y skin and that alone is miraculous. My Granny consulted another woman ho as called, as best I can write it, a see-er or seeehr. This woman xplained bout the meaning of my bird sign, some of the meaning was good, some not o ood, at least as applied to a human being. But I am blessed, said she, by aving such an outstanding bird sign. When my Granny passed on to our world beyond, Hooter let all the neighbors now by hooting all night and into the day, a rarity for the owl to be out nd about day-time. Maybe this will be either entertaining or enlightening. Fran hinquapin =====*====== ist archives ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the uotes n the subject and the body of the message ======*====== ist archives ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the uotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------- essage: 2 te: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:16:17 -0600 om: "Blue Panther" <Blue_Panther@otelco.net> bject: [Cherokee Circle] HOW THE CHILDREN OF PIV?NHONK'API OBTAINED PERMISSION TO CATCH BIRDS ? Hopi : <cherokee@rootsweb.com>, "CherokeeChat" <CherokeeChat@yahoogroups.com>, herokeeMAINVillage@yahoogroups.com>, "Dan Perry" <runningtree@mediacombb.net>, "indigenous_peoples_literature" <indigenous_peoples_literature@yahoogroups.com>, <littlewolfstraditions@yahoogroups.com>, "Native_Village" <Native_village@yahoogroups.com>, "redroad" <Tradition_OF_The_Redroad@yahoogroups.com>, "summonthewolf" <summonthewolf@yahoogroups.com> ssage-ID: <CC4807E908644A00B2CE8FBB024DE2D7@BearsdenPC> ntent-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" OW THE CHILDREN OF PIV?NHONK'API OBTAINED PERMISSION TO CATCH BIRDS ? Hopi al?ksai! At H?'kovi they were living, and at Piv?nhonk'api they were also ing. At both places there were a great many children, and they always went n to Mum?shva (a spring named after a certain herb and grass that grows in spring), where they were setting bird traps. They were often at enmity th another on account of the birds. One morning they again went to trap rds. y again became very angry at one another on account of the trapping, and e kovi children said to the children of Piv?nhonk'api that they should not ap ds there. But they said if they would give them something they could trap ds there. So the children from Piv?nhonk'api ran back to the village and t h things as k?t?'ki, p?ki, and different other articles of food, and gave m to the children of H?'kovi, so that the latter carried home a great deal d which they had purchased for the permission given to the Piv?nhonkapi ldren to catch birds there, and after that! e children from both villages were always catching birds there, and maybe y are catching birds there still. ootnotes: old by Kw?yeshva (Ora?bi). bstract: OW THE CHILDREN OF PIV?NHONK'API OBTAINED PERMISSION TO CATCH BIRDS. hildren living at Hukovi and at Piv?nhonk'api go to spring to trap birds. y are angry with each other. Hukovi children tell others they will not ap ds there, but that they can if they give them something. Children from ?nhonk'api go and get food, which they give to children from Hukovi. After t, children from both villages always catch birds there raditions of the Hopi, by H.R. Voth. Field Columbian Museum Publication 96, hropological Series Vol VIII. Chicago. 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