William Threerivers, I know not how to explain any better but will try again. According to my Granny's beliefs, and consequently, my beliefs, any animal or bird that shows a liking for a human being becomes the sign for that human being. That bird or that animal will guide his human to food, water, whatever is necessary, if such is necessary. Sometimes in dreams that bird or animal sign will show things to come to his human friend. That bird or animal sign remains with its human all the days of the human. In turn, that human does not kill or harm any bird/animal of that species and regularly reminds his sign, bird or animal, of his human gratitude. The statement above is not to be construed as worship. All have God to worship. Now here are two things to point out: 1.) rarely in modern life does a human need being led to food and water, but back in my young days that could sometimes happen 2.) having left my roots long ago, I do not often hear of any human who has been blessed by an animal or bird sign, so when a person approached and asked what I knew about the hawk sign I had to confess I did not know. The male about whom my neighbor inquired was born in Germany of German parents whose lineage goes back for generations, in Germany. I was quite startled and unsure of what to say when the neighbor described in detail the up close and personal (that from my great grands) signs the German male had received from a hawk. My grands told me of these rootsweb Native lists so I thought that here is the place to gather information. From some of the writers who have related their encounters with bird/animal, I have concluded that these kinds of encounters do happen to folks from all walks of life and that I did not know. And that brings me back to my original inquiry: what does the hawk sign represent to a German male who at this time of life is suffering? Thank you. Fran Chinquapin On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM, <wthreerivers@aol.com> wrote: > > I have to admit, I have never heard of this either but I would interested > to learn more > > William Threerivers > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fran West-Powe <fwestpowe@gmail.com> > To: CHEROKEE <CHEROKEE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Jan 19, 2014 4:11 pm > Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs > > > As a child, my late Granny taught me that animals, and especially birds, > that appear to us/near us, on friendly terms, are our "sign" and that > animal, in this case, bird, is to be thanked for its presence and help as > this was sign of special favor by that bird. > > My bird sign is the owl; my animal sign is the snake. > > Now, it happens that I am old woman, raised in swamps and back woods so > maybe that animal/bird sign doesn't happen anymore. > > So I know that happens to Native peoples but don't know what to make of its > happening to a man born in Germany. > > Regret lack of clarity, but I know not how else to explain. > > Fran > Chinquapin > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good morning Fran Thank you for the great explanation. It is something that I am not familiar with and cannot recall any stories before this relative to this. This is a site that allows me to learn many things from others. William Threerivers -----Original Message----- From: Fran West-Powe <fwestpowe@gmail.com> To: cherokee <cherokee@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:05 pm Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs William Threerivers, I know not how to explain any better but will try again. According to my Granny's beliefs, and consequently, my beliefs, any animal or bird that shows a liking for a human being becomes the sign for that human being. That bird or that animal will guide his human to food, water, whatever is necessary, if such is necessary. Sometimes in dreams that bird or animal sign will show things to come to his human friend. That bird or animal sign remains with its human all the days of the human. In turn, that human does not kill or harm any bird/animal of that species and regularly reminds his sign, bird or animal, of his human gratitude. The statement above is not to be construed as worship. All have God to worship. Now here are two things to point out: 1.) rarely in modern life does a human need being led to food and water, but back in my young days that could sometimes happen 2.) having left my roots long ago, I do not often hear of any human who has been blessed by an animal or bird sign, so when a person approached and asked what I knew about the hawk sign I had to confess I did not know. The male about whom my neighbor inquired was born in Germany of German parents whose lineage goes back for generations, in Germany. I was quite startled and unsure of what to say when the neighbor described in detail the up close and personal (that from my great grands) signs the German male had received from a hawk. My grands told me of these rootsweb Native lists so I thought that here is the place to gather information. From some of the writers who have related their encounters with bird/animal, I have concluded that these kinds of encounters do happen to folks from all walks of life and that I did not know. And that brings me back to my original inquiry: what does the hawk sign represent to a German male who at this time of life is suffering? Thank you. Fran Chinquapin On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM, <wthreerivers@aol.com> wrote: > > I have to admit, I have never heard of this either but I would interested > to learn more > > William Threerivers > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fran West-Powe <fwestpowe@gmail.com> > To: CHEROKEE <CHEROKEE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Jan 19, 2014 4:11 pm > Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Hawk signs > > > As a child, my late Granny taught me that animals, and especially birds, > that appear to us/near us, on friendly terms, are our "sign" and that > animal, in this case, bird, is to be thanked for its presence and help as > this was sign of special favor by that bird. > > My bird sign is the owl; my animal sign is the snake. > > Now, it happens that I am old woman, raised in swamps and back woods so > maybe that animal/bird sign doesn't happen anymore. > > So I know that happens to Native peoples but don't know what to make of its > happening to a man born in Germany. > > Regret lack of clarity, but I know not how else to explain. > > Fran > Chinquapin > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message