Agreed , this is an ongoing study and to come to any type of standstill on any thing just yet is like counting the vote before any one voted. I wont contest any ones opinions because I am in the same stage of thinking. As for now it says "could have been" the earliest people. SO I am going to stay stuck on * could be * this or that for now. But here is another loop to the science - _ Clovis were people_ "not humans" _stools found were humans dated to approx 14.500 years quoted from Denmark DNA experts. So these tests were not done in the US, but they favor the Native Americans as the first ( humans) in the country. Now as to the way people got here, one theory is good as another since we really don't know and may never know for sure, I will submit my own theory since I have no belief those who came here crossed some 30 miles of ocean not even knowing where to go and you cant see 30 miles. Unless they been there before and already knew how to get there they learned like we did. Now as to following the coast, I think a large amount of those who got here were already followers of the coast as a way of life. Now if you realize, we had lots of land under water or glaciers - do it could have been that this part of Oregon at that time was an oasis of plants, water, rain, animals so big they had not shortage of food. So ok what ever dates that is decided on as per one wave to another of people-or-humans that came here we have yet to see absolute proof. I was taught - people who made, fire, tools, hunted, made canoes and other things were not humans, that came with the wave of the NA, that tested before Clovis, it is possible the 2 cultures did not live well together. Well any how, I dream a lot and that mine, next <G>:) Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Ancient One > > Hi Dan, > > Just catching up on some e-mails after a trip to Arizona. My husband is > Cherokee but I am E Delaware. > > I agree with your migration theory to a point. Many scientists think > people migrated to the Americas across the Bering Land Bridge thousands of > years ago from Asia rather than Europe. The physical characteristics are > more Asian than European. (However, they believe if you go back far enough > everyone had the same mother!) > > The Clovis were thought to be the ancestors of most Native Americans > before they branched off into more localized groups or tribes. This is now > being contested. > > My personal opinion is the Clovis culture either came in? a secondary > migration across the land bridge or were a culture descended from earlier > immigrants.?I believe people have been in the Americas much longer than > the majority of scientists have been willing to conjecture. There have > been several "ice ages" and the land bridge would most likely have been > there at those earlier?times as well. I suspect people have been in the > Americas more like 30 or 40 thousand years rather than the 11 or 12 of the > Clovis. > > Personally, I think there were successive migrations. I think those that > crossed the land bridge?(and their descendants) followed a path down the > West coast?until they were past the ice and then spread gradually across > the continent going East as well as South (not S to South America and back > up the east coast). I believe there were also some?arrivals across the > oceans to both North and South America. > > There is too much evidence arising now that doesn't match previous > theories.?? > > Robbie > > ~Original Message~ > > > > For those who hate the Euro, think about a time line. Natives came from > Euro and those who stayed there and then came later were just advanced > Euro of the same people? True or false? > > My theory is the people walked along the coasts, as they found the way > here was not intentional, they just followed > the coast as in those days the lands were connected and they came along, > followed through the glaciers, S, > continued, all the way to S tip of SA and back up the other side and > around TX, to FL and up the E coast. > ( possible ) ?maybe, maybe not. Were the Cherokee here before the Clovis? > Not likely. > > Theory - for conversations. > > With ut it there is nothing to talk about. > > Who was here first - possibly the Euro? > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message