Hey Jim.....haven't heard a peep out of you forever :) glad you popped in I don't have your addy on this knew computer :) Alli :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Landmesser at Indian Creek" <ictp@digicove.com> To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 3:34:25 PM Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Waterglass Conversation on waterglass is intriguing. It came with a soapstone furnace I installed. I mixed it with soapstone dust to make a glue to cement the soapstone blocks together. When I got some more at the hardware store, It said on the can - for use in sealing cisterns and preserving eggs. It also is a component in muffler repair compound. My question is how you get the eggs out of the stuff? Do you have to chisel them out of the stone block? Or does it stay a liquid? Martha & Jim Landmesser -- Indian Creek Trading Post 3165 Shiloh Road-SW, Corydon, IN 47112 \/ E-mail= ictp@aye.net URL= http://members.aye.net/~ictp I /\ C Phone: 812-738-1258 Cell/voice mail 812-738-9370 //\\ Am.Indian/Nat.Am Music, Books, Craft Supplies

Conversation on waterglass is intriguing. It came with a soapstone furnace I installed. I mixed it with soapstone dust to make a glue to cement the soapstone blocks together. When I got some more at the hardware store, It said on the can - for use in sealing cisterns and preserving eggs. It also is a component in muffler repair compound. My question is how you get the eggs out of the stuff? Do you have to chisel them out of the stone block? Or does it stay a liquid? Martha & Jim Landmesser -- Indian Creek Trading Post 3165 Shiloh Road-SW, Corydon, IN 47112 \/ E-mail= ictp@aye.net URL= http://members.aye.net/~ictp I /\ C Phone: 812-738-1258 Cell/voice mail 812-738-9370 //\\ Am.Indian/Nat.Am Music, Books, Craft Supplies

How the Mockingbird Became the Best Singer - Mayan When X-CHOL-COL-CHEK, the mockingbird, was young, her family was very poor, and she could only dress in dingy feathers. Since she was hatched, however, X-col had displayed a magnificent voice. She wanted to take singing lessons but could not afford them. The mockingbird was fortunate to obtain work with a rich and noble family of cardinals. That winter, a famous singing professor, Dr. Xcau, the melodious blackbird, came to Maya Land. The father cardinal immediately imagined that his daughter, Col-pol-che, could become a fine singer. She was lazy vain and hated to study. But by promising her many fine gifts, the father convinced her to try singing lessons. When Col-pol-che went with Dr. Xcau to a quiet part of the woods to begin her music course, X-col followed and hid in the bushes to listen and learn. Then she raced back to finish her chores. For weeks, the professor tried to make the girl cardinal sing sweetly, but without success. He soon realized she had neither the voice nor the ambition. He was afraid to tell her wealthy father after such a long time, having accepted a lot of money. So, he finally flew far away an forgot the whole affair. Meanwhile, X-col had been practicing. One morning, Col-pol-che happened to hear her and was very surprised at her little maid's ability. That same day, the father cardinal decided his daughter should give a concert for their friends. The indolent girl was terrified, yet she dared not tell her parents that she couldn't sing. She thought of the mockingbird's lovely voice and decided to ask her for help. The two birds asked Colote, the woodpecker, to bore a hole into the tree trunk where Col-pol-che would perch. Then the mockingbird would hide inside. While Col-pol-che pretended to be singing, the real voice would come from X-col within. On the da of the concert, all the nobles, singers, artists and musicians among the birds came. Col-pol-che hopped out on a limb of the purple-flowering tree chosen by her father, bowed to the audience and opened her bill. The most exquisite voice ever heard in the Maya World came pouring out and echoed through the woods. The birds in the audience flapped their wings and cried for curtain call after curtain call. The father, however, was not applauding. He had discovered the truth just before the concert began when he saw X-col crawl into the little hole. When the applause ended and the cardinal finished many bows, her father flew up beside her and asked for silence. He hopped over to the hole and called the mockingbird to come out. The small, colorless bird was trembling with fright, but Col-pol- che's father gently led her to a perch in front of the entire audience. Then he explained that his daughter had tricked everyone, including him. "It was really this shy little 'nightingale' who sang the whole time,"he announced. The crowd went wild and demanded that X-col sing again. This time, outside and free of her fright, the mockingbird sang as never before and won every bird's heart. From that time on, all her descendants inherited her lovely voice, but the cardinals have never learned how to sing. "The moral of this legend is about ability, identity and the pursuit of dreams." http://www.turtletrack.org/Issues04/Co01242004/CO_01242004_Mockingbird.htm

How The Mocking Bird Gave The People Many Languages – Hopi AFTER awhile the chief said that they must move away from the kiva for fear that some of his people might become discouraged in some way, or lose courage and want to go back. They might die or want to die, so he didn't like to be near the kiva for fear the people might be going back and looking down toward their old home. Even though the Chief had decided to move the people away from the kiva he was very much troubled and wondered how the kiva should be regarded by them, whether it should be thought of with apprehension and fear. So the chief called his wise men together to consult them on his ideas regarding this matter, but none of these men could give him any help or find him an answer. They could only ask him what he had in mind, saying that whatever the chief wished, their gods may consent to fulfill. "Very well," said their chief, "let us make some pahos and with these offerings we will ask the big waters to come and cover up the kiva and that will make it impossible for anyone to go back there." When all these were made the young men were asked to take them to the southwest, toward Patuwakachi (the ocean) and at a good distance away from the kiva these pahos were set with the wishes and prayers of the chief that the waters may only come as far as the spot where the offerings were placed. Now every day, for four days the young men were sent back to this place where they had put these pahos to see if there were any signs of moisture or the coming of Paso (the roaring waters). Now every day the water was seen to be creeping up on these pahos and at the end of the fourth day the people began to feel the damp air. Then the big wind came and it kept up for many days and at last Paso had come and it had covered up all the land around the kiva so that no one could reach it. This was, of course, a very fearful thing to all the people. Of course, no one knows how long they lived around that place, but after a great many years they increased and they started to have more trouble among themselves. The chief was afraid that something might happen again so he had a council with his men once more, and he asked them what should be done. One of the men said that the only thing that he thought of was, if they only could speak different languages and learn to eat different kinds of food from one another, they might start away or become parted in many divisions. "Why," said the chief, "how could we do this?" Someone said, "Well, don't we have the mocking bird who knows many songs and why shouldn't he give us many different languages?" "Well," said the chief, "I think that is a very good idea." Then he asked the men to come the next day so that they could make their prayer offerings for the mocking bird. So the next day the men came over with their trays and some materials with which to make their prayer offerings. They started work that morning and kept on until late in the afternoon. When all their prayer offerings were finished, the crier called out for the men to bring him their presents of food for them all to eat. After they finished their meal they started singing the calling songs for the mocking bird, and at the end of four songs the mocking bird came. When he came he asked them why he was being so anxiously called. The chief answered him and said, "It is because we are in trouble and we wish to have some changes made, if it would be possible." Then the mocking bird asked what kind of changes. "Well," said the chief, "would it be possible that we, living here as one people, could be given different languages'?" The mocking bird said, "It can be done." The chief asked, "How soon can you do it?" The mocking bird said that it would take overnight to give them different languages. The mocking bird asked the chief if he would like to speak some other different language, but the chief said he would rather keep his own language. Well, that night it was only the chief and the mocking bird who stayed up to see how this thing would work out. During the night the mocking bird went from camp to camp and at each camp he would take something out of the fireplace and then turn right around and bury something in the fireplace again. He had a sort of buckskin pouch and whatever he took out of the fireplace he put into this pouch and he was holding on tight to this pouch for fear that something would escape out of there. Just about dawn the mocking bird finished his job. He took his buckskin pouch to the chief and told the chief to dig a hole in the ground. The chief did this and the mocking bird told him to put the pouch in the hole and bury it there and build a fire over it. Now when the morning came, the people woke up with different languages and they couldn't understand one another. They were very much troubled because they couldn't understand one another and they came up to the chief and the chief couldn't make them understand. The mocking bird was the only one that could understand, so he was the interpreter. "Well," said the chief, "you are a pretty wise bird. Now you and I will travel the same direction toward the rising sun and the sun may be our god, great and wise. With its light we can see and walk. Wherever this place is where the sun rises, I would like to see who will get there first for there we may learn who is our true god. If not, the sun itself is our god for there must be some spirit, somewhere, that really does look after us. If either you or I should get to the sun first, the great star will appear and many other stars will fall from the heavens, by which those who are still on the journey will know that one of us has reached the journey's end. Then the one who has arrived with his people must settle down and look forward to meeting his brother when he comes with wisdom and truth that he may teach the true religion of god." Truth of a Hopi, by Edmund Nequatewa; Museum of Northern Arizona Bulletin No. 8. [1936, copyright not renewed] and is now in the public domain.

http://cherokeeregistry.com/black_drink.pdf One of my grands found this for me. Now I know a part of the story. I see what one black drink was made from and now can understand Granny's assertion: "our men folks used to drink this". Fran Chinkapin

lol That is funny.:} English is a wonderful language - there is amusement around every corner.;} All the best Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:50:21 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Even more interesting.....because I thought it was a bit odd to just put egg's in a glass or jar of water LOL -----Original Message----- From: cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Young Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:47 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Hi Alli, It isn't just water. That is the name given to a mixture of chemicals that seal the egg shell preventing anything from entering the egg. It is an old method - been used for years.:} Some people say the mixture's colorless appearance is like glass. It has nothing to do with either glass nor water - only color and water.:} All the best Barbara ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yup:} Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 4:24:06 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Awe.........so it seals it. Cool Alli Waterglass - one word - is somewhat like eggwites. It is not - it is some conncoction that is mixed with water to form this slippery, slimy, semi solid goo.:}The waterglass seals the pores of the eggshell so that the egg doesn't spoil. We never ate them raw - like in an eggnog. Always cooked. :} Barbara ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Alli, It isn't just water. That is the name given to a mixture of chemicals that seal the egg shell preventing anything from entering the egg. It is an old method - been used for years.:} Some people say the mixture's colorless appearance is like glass. It has nothing to do with either glass nor water - only color and water.:} All the best Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 4:23:00 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink I've just never heard of putting eggs in water. I find that really interesting way of keeping them. You would think that with the eggs being porous leaving them in water for extended amount of time would be a bad thing. This is really interesting to learn about. ;) -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Young Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:27 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink :] The chickens don't lay eggs every day year in and year out. We stored them while they were laying. Every year they take a hiatus.:} I don't recall when that was but we prepared for it.:} We had a large pottery barrel that held them. Do you know what water glass is like.:}:} ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That sounds correct, Joyce, Thank you much. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: jgreece55@gmail.com To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:33:21 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink It was likely in the fall when the moult. Most game chickens will lay hoards in the spring and summer in preparation for setting. Today's more domesticated chickens will lay almost every day with the exception of fall and early winter. Mature hens will begin laying in Jan or Feb Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Young Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:27 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink :] The chickens don't lay eggs every day year in and year out. We stored them while they were laying. Every year they take a hiatus.:} I don't recall when that was but we prepared for it.:} We had a large pottery barrel that held them. Do you know what water glass is like.:}:} ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:20:20 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Why did you store eggs in a glass of water? -----Original Message----- From: cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Young Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:11 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Hi Fran, I had the shivers reading what your Granny said. Thank you for sharing it.:} You are up on me by a few years.:} If I get into the summer, it will be my 83rd.:}I am writing about my life growing up on a farm. Some of the things do seem ancient.:} I helped with haying driving the horse drawn equipment and storing eggs in water glass - oh! that was not fun taking them out.:} Thank you for answering. All the best and enjoy your memories.:} Take good care Barbara ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

lol Waterglass - one word - is somewhat like eggwites. It is not - it is some conncoction that is mixed with water to form this slippery, slimy, semi solid goo.:}The waterglass seals the pores of the eggshell so that the egg doesn't spoil. We never ate them raw - like in an eggnog. Always cooked. :} Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Gaston Reece" <bjreece@bellsouth.net> To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:31:02 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Because if they float they are getting to old to consume Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Alli :) Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:20 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Why did you store eggs in a glass of water? -----Original Message----- From: cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Young Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:11 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Hi Fran, I had the shivers reading what your Granny said. Thank you for sharing it.:} You are up on me by a few years.:} If I get into the summer, it will be my 83rd.:}I am writing about my life growing up on a farm. Some of the things do seem ancient.:} I helped with haying driving the horse drawn equipment and storing eggs in water glass - oh! that was not fun taking them out.:} Thank you for answering. All the best and enjoy your memories.:} Take good care Barbara ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

:] The chickens don't lay eggs every day year in and year out. We stored them while they were laying. Every year they take a hiatus.:} I don't recall when that was but we prepared for it.:} We had a large pottery barrel that held them. Do you know what water glass is like.:}:} ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:20:20 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Why did you store eggs in a glass of water? -----Original Message----- From: cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Young Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:11 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Hi Fran, I had the shivers reading what your Granny said. Thank you for sharing it.:} You are up on me by a few years.:} If I get into the summer, it will be my 83rd.:}I am writing about my life growing up on a farm. Some of the things do seem ancient.:} I helped with haying driving the horse drawn equipment and storing eggs in water glass - oh! that was not fun taking them out.:} Thank you for answering. All the best and enjoy your memories.:} Take good care Barbara ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Fran, I had the shivers reading what your Granny said. Thank you for sharing it.:} You are up on me by a few years.:} If I get into the summer, it will be my 83rd.:}I am writing about my life growing up on a farm. Some of the things do seem ancient.:} I helped with haying driving the horse drawn equipment and storing eggs in water glass - oh! that was not fun taking them out.:} Thank you for answering. All the best and enjoy your memories.:} Take good care Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fran West-Powe" <fwestpowe@gmail.com> To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 1:53:28 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Barbara, thanks for writing. If I make another summer, it will be the 90th summer for me. I've had a great life, seen many things, known many joys, many sufferings. Writing my memories/history is like living over again. My other Granny told of a legend wherein at the time of our passing on to the world beyond, rainbow appears so that we may walk up the rainbow at the top of which Our Great Spirit awaits us. Is that beautiful? Fran Chinkapin On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Barbara Young <bayofcc@comcast.net> wrote: > Thank you Fran. We enjoyed it. > > A couple of folks entered my mind to invite to have some.LOL > > I am up there in years, too. Fran. > All the best > Barbara in MA > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Fran West-Powe" <fwestpowe@gmail.com> > To: CHEROKEE@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 1:36:39 PM > Subject: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink > > While I am most appreciative of the writings found on the web and sent to > me from Ms. Joyce, about the black drink, I had hoped there might be > someone on this list whose kin/ancestors had spoken about this drink. > Realizing few live as long as I, plus, few nearing my age still able to use > computers due to many age-related conditions, I remained hopeful of hearing > from one who had heard about this. > > Thanks for all the replies. Happy some interest was generated. > > Walk in peace, Fran > Chinquapin > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Fran. We enjoyed it. A couple of folks entered my mind to invite to have some.LOL I am up there in years, too. Fran. All the best Barbara in MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fran West-Powe" <fwestpowe@gmail.com> To: CHEROKEE@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 1:36:39 PM Subject: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink While I am most appreciative of the writings found on the web and sent to me from Ms. Joyce, about the black drink, I had hoped there might be someone on this list whose kin/ancestors had spoken about this drink. Realizing few live as long as I, plus, few nearing my age still able to use computers due to many age-related conditions, I remained hopeful of hearing from one who had heard about this. Thanks for all the replies. Happy some interest was generated. Walk in peace, Fran Chinquapin ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joyce, thank you, but, no, as I easily recognize poke, Granny would have sent me to "fetch" that for her. It was an ingredient that she had not yet taught me to ID that she used for her foul-tasting drink. Sure wish I had something to which I could compare that taste for interested readers. I am most grateful to read your communications. Fran Chinkapin On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 2:05 PM, <jgreece55@gmail.com> wrote: > By the way Fran. Folks around here use Poke Salad or it's berries to make > tonics and purge. Their berries are very dark purple...almost black. > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Alli, good luck in your quest! Best, Fran Chinquapin On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Alli :) <iamcheroke@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah I think you understood me correctly. > My cousin & I have the same mutual relatives to an extent. > Our dbl. great grandparents are Phariss > Her great grandpa was James a brother to my great grandma Martha. > For my cousin it goes: James (male), female, female, female. > She took the DNA test & without realizing it, she traced her mother's > genetic's, which is ok, but it traced back to her great grandma's lineage > instead of the great grandpa's. > > For me, I'm opposite. I descend from the female side until my dad & then > me. > So for me, it'd automatically trace my mom's side. So I have a cousin that > descends from a sister to my paternal grandma who will take the test & I'm > going to see if I can get an aunt that is a sister to my dad to take the > test. Then I'll have my mtDNA traced for that side of the family which is > suppose to carry the NA blood. > > I haven't found where we're not connected, but still trying to prove the > connection :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Fran West-Powe > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:46 AM > To: iamcherokee@gmail.com; CHEROKEE@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] [CHEROKEE-DNA] Question > > Alli, _if_ I understand correctly what you have written, a male lineal > descendant of your cousin's grandpa must submit his YDNA for the NA lineage > to show. (do I understand correctly that your cousin's grgrandpa was Native > American? If I mis-understood, then the above info does not apply.) > > I really should not be so positive about that statement so let me revise > and > say that it was via my paternal nephew's YDNA that we found our other > Native > lineage. Yes, we descend from two People. > > Fran > Chinkapin > > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you........ The answer's will come at the right time :) -----Original Message----- From: cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fran West-Powe Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 3:22 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] [CHEROKEE-DNA] Question Alli, good luck in your quest! Best, Fran Chinquapin

Even more interesting.....because I thought it was a bit odd to just put egg's in a glass or jar of water LOL -----Original Message----- From: cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Young Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:47 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Hi Alli, It isn't just water. That is the name given to a mixture of chemicals that seal the egg shell preventing anything from entering the egg. It is an old method - been used for years.:} Some people say the mixture's colorless appearance is like glass. It has nothing to do with either glass nor water - only color and water.:} All the best Barbara

It was likely in the fall when the moult. Most game chickens will lay hoards in the spring and summer in preparation for setting. Today's more domesticated chickens will lay almost every day with the exception of fall and early winter. Mature hens will begin laying in Jan or Feb Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Young Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:27 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink :] The chickens don't lay eggs every day year in and year out. We stored them while they were laying. Every year they take a hiatus.:} I don't recall when that was but we prepared for it.:} We had a large pottery barrel that held them. Do you know what water glass is like.:}:} ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli :)" <iamcheroke@gmail.com> To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:20:20 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Why did you store eggs in a glass of water? -----Original Message----- From: cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Young Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:11 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Hi Fran, I had the shivers reading what your Granny said. Thank you for sharing it.:} You are up on me by a few years.:} If I get into the summer, it will be my 83rd.:}I am writing about my life growing up on a farm. Some of the things do seem ancient.:} I helped with haying driving the horse drawn equipment and storing eggs in water glass - oh! that was not fun taking them out.:} Thank you for answering. All the best and enjoy your memories.:} Take good care Barbara ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Because if they float they are getting to old to consume Joyce Gaston Reece -----Original Message----- From: Alli :) Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:20 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Why did you store eggs in a glass of water? -----Original Message----- From: cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cherokee-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Young Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:11 PM To: cherokee@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] More on Black Drink Hi Fran, I had the shivers reading what your Granny said. Thank you for sharing it.:} You are up on me by a few years.:} If I get into the summer, it will be my 83rd.:}I am writing about my life growing up on a farm. Some of the things do seem ancient.:} I helped with haying driving the horse drawn equipment and storing eggs in water glass - oh! that was not fun taking them out.:} Thank you for answering. All the best and enjoy your memories.:} Take good care Barbara ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHEROKEE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Awe.........so it seals it. Cool Alli Waterglass - one word - is somewhat like eggwites. It is not - it is some conncoction that is mixed with water to form this slippery, slimy, semi solid goo.:}The waterglass seals the pores of the eggshell so that the egg doesn't spoil. We never ate them raw - like in an eggnog. Always cooked. :} Barbara