My medicine bags hold things that bring me fond memories, a beautiful sea shell, a babys first tooth, a small delicate crystal, locks rom my childrens hair, and other things. When I feel sad or alone, I take these things out of my medicine bag and look at them and remember all the good things that they represent. It is very good medicine to remember happy things. WES-Norma

In a message dated 1/7/2006 10:25:26 PM Central Standard Time, wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: ( folks ) is good as any l;-) hmmmmmmmmmmm yours or mine ? =8>)

In a message dated 1/7/2006 10:50:01 PM Central Standard Time, artyndn@cityscope.net writes: > I do not have any artifacts, I have not found any, but if I did. > I might leave it there and do some study on the area to see who it could > have been from if it is Indian looking, never know when some read treasure > Well what I found was in an old garbage dump and I wasn't leaving it there. grandma

In a message dated 1/7/2006 9:13:34 PM Central Standard Time, BAPARHAM@aol.com writes: the mans job was to provide the meat or fish and the protection of his family, this is why the woman snd the children followed behind . You heard right, he also made tools and weapons, trained the young men in survial and war tatics and other things. grandma

We all are human beings. Different colors, different dialects different looks but all human beings,

good night.anna ----- Original Message ----- From: "DanM" <wb@valiant.wvi.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Indian >I give up ;-) > > Dan M > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GLewis2035@aol.com> > To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:13 PM > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Indian > > >> >> hmmmmmmmmmmm yours or mine ? =8>) > ================================ > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

yours is more useful than mine .mine means something to me.it would be better if i carried things for use instead of food for my soul.anna ----- Original Message ----- From: "DanM" <wb@valiant.wvi.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] medicine bag > Well since I have not a clue what to put in one. > Or why I would use certain things. > > Here is what I would have in mine. > 1 match > 1 roll of string > 2 safety pins > 1 chunk of red wood bark > 2 sticks of jerky > 1 sprig of sage > 1 small piece of Cedar > 1 hand full of tobacco > 1 corn cob pipe > > > Dan M > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anna wilson" <artyndn@cityscope.net> > To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle]artifacts > > >> if you pit everything your ancestors give you ,what do you put in your >> medicine bag?i only put these things i find in there with my tobaco and >> cedar and sweet grass.anna > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 1/7/2006 10:11:48 PM Central Standard Time, wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: I am me, that is what I am is me. My Ancestors were such Cherokee, Irish, English, Scotch, French, Dutch Maybe I am mixed a bit too much My past heritage is a blur I am just me . ==============/>> Dan M ========================================= Boy sounds like you are describing me. I am just a Heinz 57> LOL Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

You are a human being :)

right eagle spirit .i agree.anna ----- Original Message ----- From: "White Eagle Spirit ---Norma" <NORMADREW@webtv.net> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Indian > We all are human beings. Different colors, different dialects > different looks but all human beings, > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

if you pit everything your ancestors give you ,what do you put in your medicine bag?i only put these things i find in there with my tobaco and cedar and sweet grass.anna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan M" <wb@wvi.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Alli==You are right== > Delorra > I do not have any artifacts, I have not found any, but if I did. > I might leave it there and do some study on the area to see who it could > have been from if it is Indian looking, never know when some read treasure >

Jerry, I to am a decendant of the Over Hill Cherokee band. WES-Norma

in the old days they ran the horses over gravel or shell to wear down the hoves.that was for heards not individual .we got horses when the spanish brought them over ,.we were better at training them them than the europeans.anna ----- Original Message ----- From: <M0untainWindS0ng@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Yesterday > Tonya the horse doesn't have feeling in the hooves so I've been told Ruth > >

i got a call from a cousin who said we were cherokee on our crowley side as well as our loftins and selfs.seems to me like families attract us.it is so bad in my husbands choctaw family that they dont have a tree they have a vine.anna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tonya Luckey" <luckeytonya@atlanticbb.net> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Fwd: Hobby > Hi Barb, > I am 46 1/2 yrs old and I have lived in Smock, PA > practically > my whole life. I have visited Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Arizona, > Nevada, Maryland, and Texas. But I am hoping to visit South Carolina in > June. I hear that it is beautiful and I would love to see it. I liked > Arizona because I love the hot weather and we visited an old ghost town >

is it any wonder that we are strong women type AAA.anna ----- Original Message ----- From: <BAPARHAM@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Members > > > In a message dated 1/7/2006 7:14:16 AM Central Standard Time, > shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: > > Many of you know this better than me==if the clan would approve of the > man ==after a short ceremony he would then move in==all he had to do is > make sure his family kept warm ==make sure there was food==if he didn't > do this all wife had to do was put his clothes out ==he could not come > back==he was not part of the family anymore==the clan made most of the >

In a message dated 1/7/2006 9:05:53 PM Central Standard Time, blue_panther@otelco.net writes: siyo this is what i heard on this subject. the cherokee woman owned the house and she was responsabul for takeing care of the children cooking the meals and the planting of the garden. a cherokee man who was of a different clan could marry the man joined the wifes clan. the mans job was to provide the meat or fish and the protection of his family, this is why the woman snd the children followed behind . the place of honor on a path is behind the warrior, who would be attacked first. but this is what i heard blue panther I sounds good to me. Thank you for explaining. See I am beginning to learn a few things. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/7/2006 8:40:09 PM Central Standard Time, jerry_cranford@comcast.net writes: My family went to what became McDonald County, in the mid 1820's they were Chicamauga or Over Hill Cherokee. Jerry My Grandfather's Father was German born in Illinois and his Mother was a Carter out of Kentucky. I haven't found any NA in that side of the family but haven't searched it as I have my Paternal side. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Hi Alli, Thank you for explaining this, now I understand. Tonya ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli" <iamcheroke@filertel.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Yesterday > Not in the hoof wall but under the sole (bottom) they have blood veins that > help keep the hoof growing & the 'inside' portion they can feel....if > there's something in the sole/frog that causes pressure or pain they can > feel that. > But not in the hoof wall itself (the outer) which is why we can put nails > thru it when shoeing. > > Alli :) > > Tonya the horse doesn't have feeling in the hooves so I've been told Ruth > > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Ruth, Thank you. Tonya ----- Original Message ----- From: <M0untainWindS0ng@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Yesterday > Tonya the horse doesn't have feeling in the hooves so I've been told Ruth > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

you didn't read Dan :) from this message yes it worked but either the 1st or 2nd link contained info. that had links that didn't work :) >I tried all the links from this message. > They all work.?>?? > > > Dan M > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alli" <iamcheroke@filertel.com> > To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 3:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Artifacts and Laws > > >> I'm working on going thru the last 2 links. >> But so far they have been pretty interesting & it seems that the Oregon & >> Washington laws are the same, or fairly close. So I'd guess it's safe to >> assume that all states have the same or similar such laws as what the > first >> 2 provide? >> the "trackback" portion of the 3rd link doesn't have any workable links >> w/the "put that in your peace pipe & smoke it" or Read more links :( >> >> I'm looking at the 3rd link now......also interesting but not into it > enough >> to say much. >> >> Thanks again Dan >> Alli :) >> >I am not posting any excerpts, if interested, please view the websites. >> > I am sending 2 messages so AOL will not filter them in spam. >> > I suggest reading these sites before making personal opinions about >> > artifacts >> > ========= >> > The Law and American Indian Grave Protection >> > Oregon >> > http://www.ibsgwatch.imagedjinn.com/learn/oregonlaw.htm >> > >> > Washington >> > http://www.ibsgwatch.imagedjinn.com/learn/washingtonlaw.htm >> > >> > Beware the Indian-artifacts police >> > http://www.overlawyered.com/2004/08/beware_the_indianartifacts_pol.html >> > >> > CHILKAT INDIAN VILLAGE TRIBAL COURT >> > http://www.ankn.uaf.edu/curriculum/Tlingit/ChilkatIndianVillage/ >> > ==================== >> > Dan M >> > >> > >> > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== >> > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> >> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> >> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list >> > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html >> > >> > ============================== >> > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors >> > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >> > > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> > >> >> >> ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== >> <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> >> <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> >> Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list >> ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >