if you lay out side in our swamp the skeeters would have carried you away.anna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tonya Luckey" <luckeytonya@atlanticbb.net> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Cherokee > Hi Shadowbear, > I remember as a kid, in the summertime we would > lay on the ground and look up at all the stars and see what kind of > pictures > the stars made. It was beautiful - sometimes we would see a picture of a > dog, or tree, or whatever, but it was sooo peaceful and beautiful. > > Tonya > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shadowbear270" <shadowbear270@webtv.net> > To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 4:28 AM > Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Cherokee > > >> I am sure you have heard of us doing this at or that==The Cherokee when >> it got dark out he went to sleep he done nothing else==he would get up >> early eat breakfast and then do his thing==war'hunting'fishing never at >> night==at a council meeting you would lay back look up at the bright sky >> and know just how lucky you are to be Cherokee==even the birds at this >> time are very still==all those stars are for us and you would maybe >> sleep looking up==just talking about feelings >> >> SHADOW BEAR >> >> >> ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== >> <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> >> <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> >> Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list >> ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Last nite I got up went to the kitchen sink for a glass of water and out the window the moon had just raised above the treeline on the mountain and the trees were dark in front of the moon and deep blue sky was gorgeous. I whispered thank you Creator and went back to bed. Ruth

do you telephone or fish with it?anna ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tjfuji@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Telephone > Hey I got one of those here! > TJ >>

In a message dated 1/9/2006 7:57:03 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: I was at the creek today==saw one fish and saw a bird I think it was a kingfisher The water sounded very peacefull the air just a little chilly==maybe because it is January==Just talking ================================= I wish I had been at the creek but it was winter here again today. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Actually I was pretty good with a compound bow and arrow. I gave it up because I didn't agree with modern day usage by some people. I'm still deadly with a rifle or shotgun Joyce Gaston Reece

In a message dated 1/9/2006 7:33:12 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Got my bow out today believe this I could not pull it make a good hunter!!!!! ==================================== I never learned how to get the arrow to go any farther than my feet. I sure wouldn't make a good hunter. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/9/2006 7:25:31 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Remember that car my father got==get a flat tire they would have to get it off the rim find the thing that made the hole==take it out then put a patch over the hole then pump it full of air then put back on the rim allthis time you had your fingers crossed that the patch would hold==maybe no more today of course some one had to remember how to get to where you were going(no roads) ============================================= I liked to smell the smoke of the hot patches when Daddy was patching a tube. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/9/2006 7:23:44 PM Central Standard Time, blue_panther@otelco.net writes: Fox and Wildcat - Apache. ====================================== Another good one. Thank you. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/9/2006 7:02:21 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Do you remember the telephone hanging on the wall==had to crank it to get someone to talk to you? SHADOW BEAR I remember my Uncles taking one and putting wires on it and then throwing the wires into the river and cranking it. The big cat fish would float to the top and easy catching and GOOD eating. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/9/2006 7:02:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Do you remember the telephone hanging on the wall==had to crank it to get someone to talk to you? ---------------------------------------------------- my Grandmother had one. You had to listen when it rang to see if it was for you, or someone else on the line. Grandmothers ring was 2 short rings and 2 long rings. Bev

Hey I got one of those here! TJ

I always wanted to try one of those Compound Bows==My bow is getting old ==made from Osage orange and covered with raw hide SHADOW BEAR

I was at the creek today==saw one fish and saw a bird I think it was a kingfisher The water sounded very peacefull the air just a little chilly==maybe because it is January==Just talking

Where there any woman warriors among the Native People???? Did any of the Native male do any cooking for the family? Wado Sue

I read a book about boarding schools for the Native children. I was shocked in the abuse boys and girls went through. I read about the rapes and beating these children had done, and not much to any teaching reading, writing, or math was tought. And all of this was to remove the indian out of these kids. This is just wrong. At a gathering I went to a woman not sure of her age told me the nuns took a ruler and beat her hands for speaking her language. I think some of the people here are older then I am. Im 42. Some of what I read, was before i could walk or born. I love to read these stories of the elders and learn of there past. Sue

Got my bow out today believe this I could not pull it make a good hunter!!!!! SHADOW BEAR

Remember that car my father got==get a flat tire they would have to get it off the rim find the thing that made the hole==take it out then put a patch over the hole then pump it full of air then put back on the rim allthis time you had your fingers crossed that the patch would hold==maybe no more today of course some one had to remember how to get to where you were going(no roads) SHADOW BEAR

Fox and Wildcat - Apache. As soon as his life was restored, Fox went to the Buffalo head, and cut off the long pendent hair, i-yûn-e-pi-ta-ga, beneath its under jaw. Fox took this to a prairie-dog village near at hand, and told the inhabitants that it was the hair of a man, one of that race dreaded by the prairie-dogs because of its attacks upon them, which he had killed. He easily persuaded the prairie-dogs to celebrate his victory with feasting and dancing. With a stone concealed in his hand, he killed all the prairie-dogs as they circled around in the dance. Fox then placed them in a pit, and built a huge fire over them, leaving them to roast while he slept. Nîn-ko-jîn, the Wildcat, came along, and stole all the roasted prairie-dogs while Fox slept, save one at the end of the pit, leaving the tails, which were pulled off. Fox awoke after some time, and flew into a great rage when he found only the tails left; the solitary dog was thrown over his shoulder in his fit of passion. The gnawings of hunger soon induced him to search for the dog he had thrown away. In the stream close by he thought he saw the roasted body; taking off his clothes, he swam for it, but could not grasp it. Again and again he tried, and finally dove for it until he bumped his nose on the stony bottom. Tired out with his efforts, he laid down upon the bank to rest, and, as he glanced upward, saw the body of the prairie-dog lying among the branches which projected over the water. Fox recovered the coveted morsel, ate it, and set off on the trail of the Wildcat. He found Wildcat asleep under a tree, around which he set a fire. With a few quick strokes he shortened the head, body, and tail of Wildcat, and then pulled out the large intestine and roasted it. Fox then awakened Wildcat, and invited him to eat his (Wildcat's) flesh, but to be careful to save a small piece, and put it back in its place, for he would need it. Fox then left him. Wildcat followed Fox, intent upon revenge. He found Fox asleep, but instead of shortening that animal's members he lengthened them; the ears were only straightened, but the head, body, and tail were elongated as we see them at the present day. The intestine scene was repeated with the Fox as victim. From Blue Panther Keeper of Stories.

Do you remember the telephone hanging on the wall==had to crank it to get someone to talk to you? SHADOW BEAR

Buffalo Field Campaign (BFC) PO Box 957 West Yellowstone, MT 59758 (406) 646-0070 phone (406) 646-0071 fax bfc-media@wildrockies.org; www.buffalofieldcampaign.org First Tribal Permit Used in Montana's Yellowstone Bison Hunt For Immediate Release, January 9, 2006 Contact Stephany Seay: (406) 646-0070 GARDINER, MONTANA. In spite of continuous national public outcry calling for Montana to cancel its controversial bison hunt, the state's zero-tolerance policy against the country's last wild bison continues. Two more bull bison were killed in Gardiner on Saturday, just outside the boundary of Yellowstone National Park. The shooters included a man from Belgrade and a man from the Little Shell Tribe. Montana issued bison hunt permits to eight Montana Indian tribes to assist their diabetes programs. Montana's Indian bison hunt legislation, section 87-2-731 of Montana Code Allocated 2005, Allocation of Wild Buffalo Licenses to Tribes for Traditional Purposes, states "Wild buffalo taken pursuant to the special licenses issued under subsection (1) must be harvested by tribal members in accordance with the traditional ceremonies of each tribe." As far as BFC witnessed, the Little Shell hunter held no ceremony in reverence for the buffalo. "How can we, as Native People exhibit prayer so it is understood by those watching? With this hunt the Native People have been forced [by the state] to expose their most holy relationship. How many other people have their religion treated this way? With this rudeness Native People have the chance to show people how to honor life as well as death, and the relationship to the buffalo." Scott Frazier a Crow and Santee Elder wrote. All eighteen non-Indian permits have been filled for the first phase of Montana's bison hunt, which ends January 15. Of the eight tribal permits issued for this phase only the Little Shell Tribe has used theirs. The Crow Nation and the tribes of the Fort Belknap Reservation (Assiniboine, or Nakoda, and the Gros Ventre Nations) have rejected the two permits offered them. In the past ten years Montana and the U.S. Government have killed 2,479 wild Yellowstone bison, more than half of the existing herd. Twenty-two wild bull bison have been killed in Montana since September: nineteen were shot by Montana hunters, two by Montana's Department of Livestock (DOL), and another by a Yellowstone National Park ranger. Nearly all of the bison that have been killed in Montana's hunt have been shot less than five miles from the boundary of Yellowstone National Park. Two bison have been shot at the site of the Duck Creek Bison Capture Facility. The Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks claims bison have access to 460,000 acres of Montana lands during the hunt, yet the overwhelming majority of this terrain is mountainous and rocky and bison naturally require lower-elevation grasslands. Only a tiny fraction of the so-called "tolerance zone," or hunt-area, is being used by bison. Further, immediately after the bison hunt ends on February 15, the 460,000 acres will no longer be available to wild bison. The National Park Service has been engaged in numerous hazing operations during the state's bison hunt, along Yellowstone's northern boundary near Gardiner, Montana. Sunday was the only day last week that there wasn't a haze. On Saturday, Park Rangers forced two groups consisting of 61 wild bison off of their native landscape - including portions of the CUT ranch - back into the boundaries of Yellowstone National Park, where they added nearly 290 more bison that had never even left the park, pushing them further towards the Mammoth area. The haze into the Park also disrupted area pronghorn, a species of special concern. Today, the NPS hazed another 100-plus buffalo back into the Park. "The so-called tolerance zone doesn't really exist," said Mike Mease, subsistence hunter and cofounder of BFC. "These buffalo can get hazed one day and shot the next. On the west side of the Yellowstone River the buffalo are being hazed by the Park Service almost every day, while on the east side of the river they're shot by hunters." Deer, elk, moose and antelope enjoy habitat in Montana as well as a respite from hunting when the season ends. Bison, however, are always targets of persecution at every time of year, whenever they step foot into Montana's borders. "Permanent habitat, wildlife designation, and management by trained wildlife professionals must come before a species can be legitimately hunted," said Stephany Seay of BFC. "Montana's bison hunt lacks each of these elements, and therefore they are conducting an illegitimate hunt that we strongly oppose." Montana claims its bison hunt is popular among citizens, yet Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer is ignoring the thousands of phone calls and letters he has received urging it's immediate cancellation. Citizens nation-wide have been calling on Montana to end its zero-tolerance policy and afford lasting protection to the country's last wild herd of bison. The state justifies its lack of bison tolerance on the unfounded fear that bison may transmit brucellosis, a European livestock disease, to cattle. There has never been a documented case of wild bison transmitting brucellosis to livestock. Bulls pose no risk of transmitting the bacteria. The bison that inhabit the Yellowstone region are the last wild, genetically pure, unfenced bison left in the country. They are the only bison to have continuously occupied their native range and they are the last bison to follow their natural instinct to migrate. Like other wild ungulates, the region's harsh winters forces necessary migration into lower elevation lands where available forage is found. Yet, unlike other wild ungulates, wild bison are not allowed to leave the confines of Yellowstone National Park and face a zero-tolerance policy when they enter Montana and consequently it's killing fields. Buffalo Field Campaign is the only group working in the field, everyday, to stop the slaughter of the wild Yellowstone buffalo. Volunteers defend the buffalo on their native habitat and advocate for their protection. BFC video footage and photos are available upon request and may be viewed at http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org. --30-- -- Media & Outreach Buffalo Field Campaign P.O. Box 957 West Yellowstone, MT 59758 406-646-0070 bfc-media@wildrockies.org http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org BFC is the only group working in the field every day to defend the last wild herd of buffalo in America. STOP THE HUNT! Call Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer: Phone #: 406-444-3111 Stay informed! Get our weekly email Updates from the Field: Send your email address to Stop-the-Slaughter-on@vortex.wildrockies.org BOYCOTT BEEF! It's what's killing wild buffalo. Speak Out! Contact politicians and involved agencies today! http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/actnow/politicians.html Write a Letter to the Editor of key newspapers! http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/actnow/lte.html Help the buffalo by recycling your used cell phones & printer cartridges! 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