That horse is a Morgan ==I went with them to Indiana so she could run off with her boyfriend for just a short time==that was a very pretty farm and the people were very nice SHADOW BEAR

Across the fence there is a horse with a young one ==I guess they have broke her to weigh on her back==that crazy horse yells at me when she sees me and runs to the fence wanting a pear or apple==the little one will go to no one just stand there just out of reach SHADOW BEAR

I have been talking now I have to see just what I can talk about==I think I know so==Would you believe I can remember the first time I was every on a row boat ==going fishing==Guess what? I didn't like it==of course I talked about it All the time we were fishing==I was never asked to go with them again=I still don't like fishing from a boat==I could tell about a gasoline lantern maybe later==just thinking about it still make me not like them==could be they are differant now==I can tell you if you get any that gasoline on you it made you stink bad all day SHADOW BEAR

Grandma, My brother and a friend of his are looking into the rolls and other papers. For years I was a war with my self, I know I didnt belong to one group and I did not fully belong to the other. The two bloods in me would fight all the time, now we live in peace, that happen when I fully accepted who I am. I am Cherokee and I am also white. After I started going to church 5 years ago they accepted me for being of both. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <GLewis2035@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whos an indian > > In a message dated 1/15/2006 6:23:23 PM Central Standard Time, 4him@1st.net > writes: > > > daughter........ Someone told me that many times when one is removed > from the > > culture living as white they feel they do not belong anymore and remove > > themselves from "being Cherokee" > > > > No body can remove you from being Cherokee but if you have no ancestors on > the Indian rolls created by the white man, then you will never be reconized by > the government as being a Cherokee. It still does not change who you are. > grandma > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

We all need to get together and do a rain dance for the mid south and a stop the rain dance in the north west. Tammy

Just got back from my route and it RAINED lightly but it rained. Tammy

In a message dated 1/16/2006 1:27:30 PM Central Standard Time, betron1@sbcglobal.net writes: Grandma, "my moisture story" was real - husband walked the 80 or so feet from the porch to the street to get the morning paper, and in that distance, he came back in singing "Rain drops are falling on my head" and by the time he walked thru the house to the back, he looked out the den door and nothing was falling! That is what has to be described as a "brief shower"!! The patio was damp, not wet and in 30 minutes the patio surface was "bone dry." Oh, for some more of the wet stuff. . . . . . Bettye True, I can believe it. Our lake Merideth is slowly shrinking. If we don't get enough water to start filling it up. a lot of places like Amarillo, Lubbock, and Plainview will have to find alternate sources of water, not to mention this little town of Fritch will be in real trouble. grandma

Grandma, "my moisture story" was real - husband walked the 80 or so feet from the porch to the street to get the morning paper, and in that distance, he came back in singing "Rain drops are falling on my head" and by the time he walked thru the house to the back, he looked out the den door and nothing was falling! That is what has to be described as a "brief shower"!! The patio was damp, not wet and in 30 minutes the patio surface was "bone dry." Oh, for some more of the wet stuff. . . . . . Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: <GLewis2035@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Where is Everyone > > In a message dated 1/16/2006 11:28:11 AM Central Standard Time, > jwaddell@greenvillewater.com writes: > > Hey grandma it is a beautiful day down here in South Carolina. They say > we > may have showers tomorrow we will have to see. > > Jim in SC > > > > Hi Jim , It is clouding over here but we are not encouraged. I will > believe the moisture story when I see it. They claim a possibility of > light snow, > maybe an inch. grandma > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 1/16/2006 11:28:11 AM Central Standard Time, jwaddell@greenvillewater.com writes: Hey grandma it is a beautiful day down here in South Carolina. They say we may have showers tomorrow we will have to see. Jim in SC Hi Jim , It is clouding over here but we are not encouraged. I will believe the moisture story when I see it. They claim a possibility of light snow, maybe an inch. grandma

Prayers are on the wind for the rain to fall soon, the fires to stay away. Alli > Hey! A few rain drops fell on parts of burned over North Texas this > morning - not enough to get a person wet and certainly it couldn't put out > any fires. Not enough moisture fell on the area to prevent more rains, > unfortunately! and one TV station says more fires burst out in parched > Oklahoma this morning. > Bettye > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

In a message dated 1/16/2006 10:31:52 AM Central Standard Time, betron1@sbcglobal.net writes: Hey! A few rain drops fell on parts of burned over North Texas this morning - not enough to get a person wet and certainly it couldn't put out any fires. Not enough moisture fell on the area to prevent more rains, unfortunately! and one TV station says more fires burst out in parched Oklahoma this morning. Bettye Bettye, we only got wind and more fires. I think we just might burn up or blow away here in Oklahoma and Texas. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Hey grandma it is a beautiful day down here in South Carolina. They say we may have showers tomorrow we will have to see. Jim in SC -----Original Message----- From: GLewis2035@aol.com [mailto:GLewis2035@aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:21 PM To: CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Where is Everyone In a message dated 1/16/2006 10:31:52 AM Central Standard Time, betron1@sbcglobal.net writes: Hey! A few rain drops fell on parts of burned over North Texas this morning - not enough to get a person wet and certainly it couldn't put out any fires. Well we didn't get a drop of rain in this part of Texas either. We get promises but no fullfillment. Too much for others and not enough for us. grandma ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

In a message dated 1/16/2006 10:31:52 AM Central Standard Time, betron1@sbcglobal.net writes: Hey! A few rain drops fell on parts of burned over North Texas this morning - not enough to get a person wet and certainly it couldn't put out any fires. Well we didn't get a drop of rain in this part of Texas either. We get promises but no fullfillment. Too much for others and not enough for us. grandma

Hey! A few rain drops fell on parts of burned over North Texas this morning - not enough to get a person wet and certainly it couldn't put out any fires. Not enough moisture fell on the area to prevent more rains, unfortunately! and one TV station says more fires burst out in parched Oklahoma this morning. Bettye

Yes, the knowledge is still here. It will not go away. It takes a lot of hard work and dedication but I believe those who truly seek after it will find it. But it will not come to me or you and say here i am, take me. Much of the history is located in the book of the old testiment. What has happened since that time is still with the people. The records written by the envaders of this country have a few grains of truth but to know the real truth of the Cherokee people, you have to get it from the Cherokee people. Much is found in their stories. grandma > shame that so much of the heritage has been lost to so many. I am grateful there > are still many though that remember and practice the heritage and are willing > to share the knowledge.

In a message dated 1/15/2006 6:23:23 PM Central Standard Time, 4him@1st.net writes: > daughter........ Someone told me that many times when one is removed from the > culture living as white they feel they do not belong anymore and remove > themselves from "being Cherokee" No body can remove you from being Cherokee but if you have no ancestors on the Indian rolls created by the white man, then you will never be reconized by the government as being a Cherokee. It still does not change who you are. grandma

Barb sc 4him is just a number i picked out when i singed up for email.. I about a year ago i found out 4him is also a sing group (Christian). I hope this answered your question. sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <EVERETTLATTIMORE@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whos an indian > In a message dated 1/15/2006 8:32:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, 4him@1st.net > writes: > wish she was still around now I might be able to understand what she was > telling me. I am going to be 43 in eight mo. and I'm still learning about > the Cherokee. This site helps out alot. > ============================================================ > My mother when she talked of Cherokee it was always in the 3rd party. > She would say > "My mother was Cherokee," or "Your grandmother was Cherokee" I > always thought that a little odd. If her mother was Cherokee, so would be her > daughter........ Someone told me that many times when one is removed from the > culture living as white they feel they do not belong anymore and remove > themselves from "being Cherokee" > My grandmother died before I was born and never was able to > meet relatives that might speak more of our heritage than my Mother did. She > only spoke of these things in a time of wistfulness or if I asked. It is a > shame that so much of the heritage has been lost to so many. I am grateful there > are still many though that remember and practice the heritage and are willing > to share the knowledge. > > Question Sue your address name 4 Him does this mean For HIM > ????? > Barb sc > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 1/15/2006 5:28:35 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Bettye==see if I wait some time the answers will come==and they will be better than mine==I would answer this way==Indian time is maybe sometime tomorrow==I'l do it pretty soon==I think maybe later==we will do it as soon as we get time==I will be a little late==I use all of them=Pretty soon maybe SHADOW BEAR Shadowbear I just found out by your answer I am on Indian time. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Bettye==see if I wait some time the answers will come==and they will be better than mine==I would answer this way==Indian time is maybe sometime tomorrow==I'l do it pretty soon==I think maybe later==we will do it as soon as we get time==I will be a little late==I use all of them=Pretty soon maybe SHADOW BEAR

if you are planning doing an event and are uptight about time dont do it with ndn as we are on ndn time it will start when we all get there and decide who is going to do what . we will not and cannot be hurried even it ndn wife pushes. hee hee that is why cherokee woman is in charge. if you go to pow wow you will know this is or is not true. you all please forgive me in advance as i cant resist this little joke of ndn time.anna ----- Original Message ----- From: "DanM" <wb@valiant.wvi.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Watch > What about the working Indian ? > Dan M > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shadowbear270" <shadowbear270@webtv.net> > To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:07 AM > Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Watch > > >> What is a watch? Now I will answer your question==A watch is a big >> round thing that a white man wears on his back==he always has to know >> the time sometimes he has someone tell him what is time it is==he has to