Dan M, Where you at to be getting flooded? Tammy:

Bettye, They were not a large tribe, and when I was little in NM/TX , a group lived under a bridge, and they were mistreated. I think they lived on the US/Mex line. It must have been about 1937. I felt so sorry for them. Julia

In a message dated 1/18/2006 7:28:32 PM Central Standard Time, wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: poke em inna nose!!! Dan M http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee.html Then they would throw me in the poky and Don just might leave me there. LOL Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/18/2006 7:27:56 PM Central Standard Time, wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: Ahhh l;-( I know the feeling of loosing family . Mom, Dad, a sister, Aunts and Uncles, got one sister left. Me n her, thats it on the older half . Course there are all the little ones to cheer us up tho. Dan M I think my hardest time was loosing my little brother and two months later I lost my oldest sister. I now thank God for wonderful cousins and precious grandkids. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/18/2006 7:24:13 PM Central Standard Time, wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: Might as well, my shops in a foot of water, and mud. I guess I will have a lot of things to toss away. I dont even want to look for now. Good thing my big RV is on big tires huh. Some one gave me an RV, I want to restore it, some chance with all that water in there. Dan M Oh Dan I feel for you as our shop was flooded four time. The highest it got was 3ft. After the rains comes the mildew. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

I am going to have a large propane blower going tomorrow. then I will sort things out. I am giving up that shop because the county lets it flood on purpose Dan M http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <BAPARHAM@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Forget It > > > In a message dated 1/18/2006 7:28:32 PM Central Standard Time, > wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: > > poke em inna nose!!! > Dan M > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee.html > > > Then they would throw me in the poky and Don just might leave me there. LOL > > Barbara > In Oklahoma Native America > > > > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Hi Shadowbear, This is crazy that they are not giving you back your change. This is not right, if you do not get anywhere with the local law then write to your local congressman that this is happening and give him the location that this is happening at. This is stealing YOUR money and this is a crime, it is illegal. If this happens again please let us know and maybe we also can email your local congressman about this. Tonya ----- Original Message ----- From: "shadowbear270" <shadowbear270@webtv.net> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:39 PM Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Forget it > Dan== I found out some time ago if they over charge you just smile and > leave I use to compline ==to who? if the law is called==those police > will tell you pay or go to jail we will not have you people coming here > and cause trouble==I have spent a day or a night in jail because of this > > SHADOW BEAR > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hi Shadowbear, Does this really still happen to you or someone you know? Tonya ----- Original Message ----- From: "shadowbear270" <shadowbear270@webtv.net> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:21 AM Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Forget It > This something we talk about==when you bring something of the past up as > a subject you are told forget it happened a long time you have to forget > it==you then go to a store ==there you are put back bof the line==some > how you stay there until you are the only one left==if the thing you buy > is say > $1.50 you give them $2.oo you get no change==this the reason we roll > $1.00 bills into tight little balls if they are going to do this than > they have to try to put these badly wrinkled bills in the cash box and > close it==Oh now I forget it after all things have changed so much in > two hundred years > > SHADOW BEAR > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 1/18/2006 12:39:36 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Dan== I found out some time ago if they over charge you just smile and leave I use to compline ==to who? if the law is called==those police will tell you pay or go to jail we will not have you people coming here and cause trouble==I have spent a day or a night in jail because of this SHADOW BEAR I am so sorry to hear that Shadowbear. I hope things someday will not be color coded. I am so thankful my parents did not bring us up looking at the color of someone skin. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/18/2006 11:40:41 AM Central Standard Time, wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: Thursday, lists on rootsweb will be off line, ( how long ?) my guess is until they are back up. Smart answer. LOL Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/18/2006 11:37:47 AM Central Standard Time, wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: So you who do, treasure them ok. Dan M ======================================= I think it is me not wanting to let go of my Daddy, I know how he treasured these things and I can still see him behind the plow. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/18/2006 11:35:00 AM Central Standard Time, wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: I dont wad mine up on purpose, but ALL $1 bills go in my pocket, they are a real mess at times I do mechanics and they get sorta used looking soon. Why dont people give you change? Dan M ================================================ Because they are very very rude. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Frog and Rabbit - Cree Once, Rabbit lived with Frog. Rabbit ran around hunting. He found a beaver lodge along a creek. He thought it was an evil cannibal emerging from the snow. Rabbit was really terrified. He ran home very frightened. Frog said to Rabbit, "Are you out of your mind? It was probably just a beaver lodge." She told him, "Let's go over there." She told him to take his ice chisel along. They left. Here was a beaver lodge standing there. Frog told her husband, "Let's try to kill the beavers." She told him, "Make a hole in the ice there." Rabbit chiseled a hole in the ice. Frog ordered Rabbit to scoop out all the ice from the hole. Frog ran towards the hole and jumped in. Rabbit stood there and waited. Frog surfaced and said, "Break open your beaver lodge now." Rabbit broke open the lodge. Here were all the beaver that were in the lodge that she had killed. Both Frog and Rabbit dragged their beaver's home. Rabbit skinned the beaver and cooked them. After he had cooked them, he ate. Rabbit didn't give any of the beaver meat to his wife, Frog. She told him, "Feed me." He didn't. Frog got annoyed and threatened him by saying, "Hey, I'm going to tell Owl that you're not feeding me." Rabbit still didn't feed Frog. Frog got angry and said, "Owl, Rabbit isn't feeding me his beavers." They could hear Owl hooting. Now, Rabbit was really frightened. He gave Frog the beaver meat she was asking for. She said, "Owl, it's OK. He is feeding me now." After living together for a while, I guess they finished off eating their beavers. Rabbit went to look for food again. He saw the large tracks of someone. He was really frightened again. Rabbit ran home. That is also why a rabbit is very cowardly today. He said, "I have seen the large tracks of someone." Frog said, "It must be a moose because I had heard that a moose is walking around." She must have heard that a moose was walking around. She said, "Let's go track it." They left. It was the tracks of a moose. They tracked the moose. Then they reached it standing there. Frog and Rabbit creeped towards the moose. Frog told Rabbit, "Stand here." Frog approached the moose. When she got close to it, she burrowed into the snow. She emerged at the leg of the moose. She carefully climbed up the leg and entered into the anus of the moose. She went to the heart of the moose and that was where she started biting and chewing at the heart. Rabbit was just watching the moose standing there. Then the moose, who just stood there not noticing anything, suddenly collapsed. Rabbit just stood there. Then Frog emerged from the nostril of the moose. They butchered it and took all the meat home. They had plenty of food. Then one night, they heard a cannibal screaming. They could hear the evil being coming closer. Then it reached them. Rabbit jumped into the food that was on the platform. That was where he hid. Frog jumped into the pot of blood. The evil cannibal barged into their lodge and began eating their food. Then Frog heard the cannibal enjoying itself as it ate her husband, Rabbit. The cannibal ate Rabbit. The monstrous cannibal turned over the pot of blood where Frog had jumped in. She burrowed into the boughs and burrowed into the ground. The evil creature didn't find out about her. It didn't know where she was. Frog couldn't be killed. That is how long the legend is. Told by Florrie Mark-Stewart Eastmain Reposted with Permission from Brother to Horse From Blue Panther Keeper of Stories.

In a message dated 1/18/2006 11:33:43 AM Central Standard Time, wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: I got my little mini RV fixed up, now I can take the wife too. Soon a boat. Right now I think I should have it tied to the front porch. Dan M http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee.html =================================== From all the rain you are getting I think that would be a wise place for the boat or just fish off the porch. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Tonya==yes it still happens ==some places you can go these kind of things never happen mostly in farming country I think they work hard no spare time == SHADOW BEAR

Ok any one want to chat ya can join the Genealogy chat list or just take a day off <G> Dan M http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee.html

hehehehe Dan M http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <BAPARHAM@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Rootsweb going down > > > In a message dated 1/18/2006 11:40:41 AM Central Standard Time, > wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: > > Thursday, lists on rootsweb will be off line, ( how long ?) my guess is > until they are back up. > > > Smart answer. LOL > > Barbara > In Oklahoma Native America > > > > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

poke em inna nose!!! Dan M http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <BAPARHAM@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Forget It > > In a message dated 1/18/2006 11:35:00 AM Central Standard Time, > wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: > > I dont wad mine up on purpose, but ALL $1 bills go in my pocket, they are a > real mess at times I do mechanics and they get sorta used looking soon. > Why dont people give you change? > Dan M > > > ================================================ > Because they are very very rude. > > Barbara > In Oklahoma Native America > > > > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Ahhh l;-( I know the feeling of loosing family . Mom, Dad, a sister, Aunts and Uncles, got one sister left. Me n her, thats it on the older half . Course there are all the little ones to cheer us up tho. Dan M http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <BAPARHAM@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Horse > ======================================= > > I think it is me not wanting to let go of my Daddy, I know how he treasured > these things and I can still see him behind the plow. > > Barbara > In Oklahoma Native America > =============================================

Might as well, my shops in a foot of water, and mud. I guess I will have a lot of things to toss away. I dont even want to look for now. Good thing my big RV is on big tires huh. Some one gave me an RV, I want to restore it, some chance with all that water in there. Dan M http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <BAPARHAM@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Ancestors > > In a message dated 1/18/2006 11:33:43 AM Central Standard Time, > wb@valiant.wvi.com writes: > > I got my little mini RV fixed up, now I can take the wife too. > Soon a boat. Right now I think I should have it tied to the front porch. > Dan M > http://www.wvi.com/~wb/Cherokee.html > =================================== > > >From all the rain you are getting I think that would be a wise place for the > boat or just fish off the porch. > > Barbara > In Oklahoma Native America > > > > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >