SadowBear, when I fly, I feel like I'm soaring like an eagle. It's awesome. WES-Norma

In a message dated 1/31/2006 1:45:30 PM Central Standard Time, Wmnbybrth@aol.com writes: Barbara, I am sure it is very beautiful to look down on everything. But I want my feet closer to the ground . When Creator calls for me, then I can look down on the beauty. Bev ============================= Bev, My mother said she would never fly but once she did we couldn't get her to go any other waay if it was a long trip. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

I just had a thought==If one of those things went over my ancestors I think there would not be an arrow left in the village==I know the first time one went over my head==I tried to dig a hundred foot deep hole and fast SHADOW BEAR

Barbara, I am sure it is very beautiful to look down on everything. But I want my feet closer to the ground . When Creator calls for me, then I can look down on the beauty. Bev In a message dated 1/31/2006 1:15:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, BAPARHAM@aol.com writes: Bev, It is amazing how you feel to sit in the clouds and see all the beautiful fields, rivers, etc. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/31/2006 1:35:31 PM Central Standard Time, betron1@sbcglobal.net writes: Flying is not for the birds! Bettye ======================== My eldest son skydives and after flying I can understand the love he has for it (some). Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/31/2006 1:35:28 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Some white people moved in and put a cabin up ==soon they started putting these funny things in their field==of course we watched them every day==first they put x shapeed things up==then they put long split post on these x posts after they had went around thier whole field they went away==soon there was two cows on this field==then it got to us it was A FENCE SHADOW BEAR Then it was barbed wire next huh? Think the rail fence was kinder. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Shadow Bear, Yes I do think the line for those who don't like to fly would be the longest. I get scared enough with vehicles on the ground, no way I will be in one that is off the ground. Bev In a message dated 1/31/2006 12:43:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Bev==Don't you think if they made two lines==those that like to fly and those that don't=our line would be so long the end could not be seen?Just the thought of getting on one of them things makes me shiver SHADOW BEAR

In a message dated 1/31/2006 1:22:36 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Bar==No one here have seen me backed into a corner ==then instead of just barking I will bite back SHADOW BEAR ================================ That is the way I am just don't push me too far. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/31/2006 12:59:37 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: I really didn't tell the truth about getting on one of airplanes==I would be one the first on it IF the wheels stayed on the ground and they had conductors instead of stewardesses==could have porters with thier whisk brooms and a little step ladder just to let you get off SHADOW BEAR Shadowbear, The ones in Oklahoma City have a big tunnel that moves right up to the door and you don't have to climb stairs to get on or off. The one I flew to New Mexico in had excellent helpful people to guide me from one plane to another. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Sherry==I think you have the short way solution==If they got me drunk enough they might get me on==who wants to be on that airplane when I wake up? SHADOW BEAR

In a message dated 1/31/2006 12:30:14 PM Central Standard Time, Wmnbybrth@aol.com writes: Shadow Bear, That is exactly how I feel about airplanes also. I have never been on one, and have no intention of ever being on one. Bev Bev, It is amazing how you feel to sit in the clouds and see all the beautiful fields, rivers, etc. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/31/2006 12:20:54 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Barbara==If there was some way they could get me on one of those airplanes I think maybe I would tear something important off of that plane before they got me to let go of the door==I know there would be a large hole in the side of that airplane==so next time you get on one of those things ==look around I might be on that thing==would be in the middle of a fightor in the middle of the hole going out SHADOW BEAR Shadowbear, I probably would never have got on one but I knew it was the fastest way to get to Don also I had three nephews hurt in the same accident so a lot of loved one to get to. If and when I ever get on one again I will look for you and we could sit together and say a lot of prayers. I will make sure that the door is attached the next time I see a plane. I don't think you would be a fighter as you sound too calm to me. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

See I have no thoughts of seeing Mt.Shasta from the top I haven't seen all of the bottom yet==saw some of Seattle on the bottom ==didn't make me want to see the top SHADOW BEAR

A few years ago I was drafted==could have been in either the air force or the marines belive me I didn't go to the air forcethey told us we might have to fly==I looked back didn't have any wings I knew I would not fly very good==I did have feet and I could walk so here come s the marines SHADOW BEAR

Some white people moved in and put a cabin up ==soon they started putting these funny things in their field==of course we watched them every day==first they put x shapeed things up==then they put long split post on these x posts after they had went around thier whole field they went away==soon there was two cows on this field==then it got to us it was A FENCE SHADOW BEAR

Shadow Bear, That is exactly how I feel about airplanes also. I have never been on one, and have no intention of ever being on one. Bev

Bar==No one here have seen me backed into a corner ==then instead of just barking I will bite back SHADOW BEAR

Good morning, Shadowbear: Please know that after that first time of taking off, the next time will be easier. Now, when you realize that you can look down on top of new horizons and get a new glimpse of clouds, mountains and rivers such as you cannot imagine then you will say "this is the way to go"!! My first glimpse of the Grand Canyon from above is so different than how you view it from your seeing it standing on the ground. I had never seen Mt. Ranier except in pictures until we flew over it in a MD80 on a full moon night as we approached Seattle/Tacoma airport. That view was worth the ticket price from D/FW! We were low enough on the approach in to get a real good view and high enough that it allowed a good 45 second or more viewing. These have to be the two most memorable looks at the "world from above" that I can remember. Flying is not for the birds! Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: "shadowbear270" <shadowbear270@webtv.net> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Airlines > Barbara==If there was some way they could get me on one of those > airplanes I think maybe I would tear something important off of that > plane before they got me to let go of the door==I know there would be a > large hole in the side of that airplane==so next time you get on one of > those things ==look around I might be on that thing==would be in the > middle of a fightor in the middle of the hole going out > > SHADOW BEAR > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 1/31/2006 10:53:57 AM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: I think if I had to fly on one of those airplanes whoud be it the newspapers every where==All they want is now is knowing every thing about you ==even down to your blood type==to get a ticket you will spend most of the day trying==I guess I would go by bus not the train because it go's nowhere== SHADOW BEAR Shadowbear, I thought that the first time I flew but my husband was hurt in another state and I wanted to be with him as fast as I could get there so I climbed on a plane. It was beautiful to look down and see what a beautiful world we live in. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

I really didn't tell the truth about getting on one of airplanes==I would be one the first on it IF the wheels stayed on the ground and they had conductors instead of stewardesses==could have porters with thier whisk brooms and a little step ladder just to let you get off SHADOW BEAR