My name is Cheyenne and I'm a full blood Cherokee presently living in GA. Would like to sit in on discussions here for awhile if I may? Thank you...

In a message dated 2/1/2006 10:34:15 AM Central Standard Time, wb@wvi.com writes: I have a long list of people who left as fast as they came. Maybe there is some one behind the list giving problems to people so they do not stay. Dan M ===================================== Maybe they just don't want to visit but I have learned so much by being here. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Dan, Barb, Joyce said that the server had been down a few days ago but that it was back up. I saw some activity and then it quit again. I do know for those that have yahoo, their server (one of them anyway) is not sending emails. And once again, I see some emails coming in double and triple for some reason. Brin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` BAPARHAM@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/1/2006 10:34:15 AM Central Standard Time, wb@wvi.com writes: I have a long list of people who left as fast as they came. Maybe there is some one behind the list giving problems to people so they do not stay. Dan M ===================================== Maybe they just don't want to visit but I have learned so much by being here. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America http://www.geocities.com/moonsister8/

PICK UP THE PHONE AND TAKE ACTION FOR THE LAST WILD BUFFALO! * National Call-In Day Tomorrow! Thursday February 2, 2006 (8:30-5:00 MST) America's first national park, Yellowstone, is a world heritage site, biosphere reserve and home to the country's last wild and migrating herd of buffalo. It is also the site of the worst buffalo slaughter since the winter of 1996-1997. Yellowstone has taken these recent actions to "protect" one landowner's livestock interests. With this year's wild buffalo migration just beginning; more wild buffalo slaughter is very likely to happen again soon. This behavior by the National Park Service is outrageously unacceptable and everyone who cares about wild buffalo must make their voices heard for the last wild herd! Review video of what Yellowstone has been doing our last wild buffalo: http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/media/bisonhunt/bisonhuntvideo/stephens0106.mov JOIN US FOR A NATIONAL CALL-IN DAY, TOMORROW, THURSDAY, February 2! Citizens across the country are urged to join friends at BFC, the Animal Welfare Institute, the Humane Society of the United States and other wild bison advocates to rattle the cages of two responsible parties: Yellowstone National Park and the Church Universal & Triumphant. Make their phones ring off the hook in the name of the last wild buffalo! WHO TO CALL: 1. YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK SUPERINTENDENT SUZANNE LEWIS (307-344-2002) Tell her that the National Park Service is mandated to protect bison, not slaughter them for the sake of livestock interests. Tell her that Yellowstone's participation in the slaughter of the last wild buffalo is shameful and unacceptable. Tell her that the Park should work to secure critical habitat for wild buffalo outside of Park boundaries. Just speak from your heart for the buffalo and tell her how you feel. 2. CHURCH UNIVERSAL & TRIUMPHANT (CUT), KATE GORDON, PRESIDENT (800-245-5445) Tell CUT to finalize the agreement that was started in 1999 and to coexist with wild buffalo. Remind CUT that they took millions from the American people and that money was exchanged for land to be used by wildlife, including wild buffalo. WHY THESE CALLS FOR THE WILD BUFFALO ARE SO CRITICAL: Since mid-January, Yellowstone National Park has captured and killed more than one-tenth of the existing herd of the country's last wild buffalo. Yellowstone National Park captured 672 wild buffalo in the Stephens Creek Capture Facility, located inside the boundaries of the world's first national park, sending 583 to slaughter and 87 wild bison calves to a quarantine facility, 50 percent of which will be slaughtered. Brucellosis is the supposed reason for the aggressive management scheme. There has never been a case of any wild buffalo transmitting the European livestock disease, brucellosis, back to the cattle they got it from. The burden should not be the wild buffalo's! The livestock industry should take responsibility and practice cattle-based risk management. More info is at http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org. YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK SUPERINTENDENT SUZANNE LEWIS (307-344-2002) CHURCH UNIVERSAL & TRIUMPHANT (CUT), KATE GORDON, PRESIDENT (800-245-5445) The National Park Service touts the Interagency Bison Management Plan as justification for their actions, yet the plan is, in part, set up to protect a wild, free-roaming herd of buffalo. "Free-roaming" and "wild" mean migration for buffalo, but the Park Service blocks this natural motion, like damming a great river. So they do not protect. They harm. They impair. The buffalo shouldn't find a foe in the National Park Service, yet there is no friendship. Instead of being a voice for the last wild buffalo, the Park Service has become a puppet for cattle business. The Plan states that the Park Service "may" kill, it doesn't state that they MUST. They have a choice. They have wrongly chosen slaughter. The people must act. YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK SUPERINTENDENT SUZANNE LEWIS (307-344-2002) CHURCH UNIVERSAL & TRIUMPHANT (CUT), KATE GORDON, PRESIDENT (800-245-5445) Our last wild buffalo are being denied habitat and dying because of less than 200 cattle that graze along the Park's northern boundary near Gardiner, Montana - land that was supposed to benefit wild buffalo. The Royal Teton Ranch, owned by the Church Universal and Triumphant (CUT), lies in the middle of North America's largest migration corridor, just across the northern boundary of Yellowstone National Park. In 1999, U.S. taxpayers spent $13 million for conservation easements that would allow wild buffalo and other wildlife to access this migration corridor along portions of CUT's property. Yet, the buffalo continue to die. The American people were lead to believe that the money spent would benefit buffalo, but nothing has changed. CUT got the $13 million and the buffalo got killing fields. CUT is beginning to feel some pressure about their involvement in wild buffalo slaughter, and we must keep it on. YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK SUPERINTENDENT SUZANNE LEWIS (307-344-2002) CHURCH UNIVERSAL & TRIUMPHANT (CUT), KATE GORDON, PRESIDENT (800-245-5445) How many more buffalo must die before the injustice to their species ends? How long will the people stand for the livestock industry controlling our wildlife and wild lands? How much longer will the American people and the wild buffalo have to take the insults from our National Park Service? We must all raise our voices together in defense of the last wild buffalo! YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK SUPERINTENDENT SUZANNE LEWIS (307-344-2002) CHURCH UNIVERSAL & TRIUMPHANT (CUT), KATE GORDON, PRESIDENT (800-245-5445) Thank you for making these important phone calls and for your support of our efforts to protect the last wild buffalo left in America. Please spread the word to save the herd! With the Buffalo, Buffalo Field Campaign -- Media & Outreach Buffalo Field Campaign P.O. Box 957 West Yellowstone, MT 59758 406-646-0070 bfc-media@wildrockies.org http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org BFC is the only group working in the field every day to defend the last wild herd of buffalo in America. STOP THE HUNT! Call Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer: Phone #: 406-444-3111 Stay informed! Get our weekly email Updates from the Field: Send your email address to Stop-the-Slaughter-on@vortex.wildrockies.org BOYCOTT BEEF! It's what's killing wild buffalo. Speak Out! Contact politicians and involved agencies today! http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/actnow/politicians.html Write a Letter to the Editor of key newspapers! http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/actnow/lte.html Help the buffalo by recycling your used cell phones & printer cartridges! It's free and easy. http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/support/recycleprint.html.

Nice to have you back Barb Jim -----Original Message----- From: EVERETTLATTIMORE@aol.com [mailto:EVERETTLATTIMORE@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:26 PM To: CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cherokee Circle] hey HONEY I'M HOOME AOL, finally got it right. So, glad to see everyone's post. Hi, Barb oklahoma, Hello Shadow Bear. Hey Allie. I was so lonesome. Just about quit using the computer. Barb sc ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

In a message dated 2/1/2006 6:43:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: I think for many years the sun didn't shine for me==they finely decided ww-2 was over==then they decided to let me go==I was the same wild indian only meaner--you know the sun didn't shine till that day I ======================================================= Shadow Bear: My mom would have been your age. I think the sun did not shine for her, from 1945, maybe before then even. When she passed she was still in the gloomy. Maybe some people carry bad experience for there life. It is good you saw the sunshine, The light is the best place to be. Makes you feel warm for your whole body and your spirit. I think maybe the spirit can't come out in the dark gloom. I was born at the end of the Korean War so don't really know the tough time folks had then, especially the Cherokee people. But, hearing from folks like you and a cousin of mine cause me to appreciate what we have today more. Sometime we don't appreciate what we have until we see other peoples lives. Barb sc

Our weather has been confusing not quite a week ago it snowed then a couple days ago it rained all day, then we got Dan's strong winds then they mellowed out to just windy. Now its warming up enough to melt the snow (along w/the winds help) but cold that the geese's water still freezes. Kids are ornery as usual. I'm hoping tomorrow is a warm & dry enough day that I can get them dressed & boot them outside for an hr or so. They are driving me nuts. But we'll be celebrating a birthday for my middle one........he's turning 5 :( on Mon. I found out this morning that my older cousin's daughter (21) died last night/this morning. She went in to the hospital w/pneumonia but passed away during the night or early this morning. Her dad was also in the hospital but he had had surgery on his knee I guess. They spoke after his surgery & things seemed fine. They are having an autopsy done on her to find out what happened. this poor family has dealt w/too many death's just w/in the immediate members. My older cousin lost 2 younger brothers between the very late 70's & early 80's. the first one was killed at 17 in a motorcycle/truck accident on Thanksgiving (I was 9 & he was my favorite cousin) then a few years later their baby brother was 18 & killed in a car/truck accident (I was probably around 12) then a yr later their dad died of a heart attack. My Aunt who is recovering Alcoholic is doing fair I guess. I found this out right after I got up this morning :( Then a friend had to put her horse down. UGH!! Alli > Weather has been nice. > Dan did your rain stop? > Barbara Did your rain start?? > Shadow Bear are you still wonderful? > Allie how are the kids?

Naw, just gotta get a better server LOL I'm ready to dump mine just because of the Spam garbage they allow Alli :) > HONEY I'M HOOME > AOL, finally got it right. So, glad to see everyone's post. > Hi, Barb oklahoma, Hello Shadow Bear. Hey Allie. > I was so lonesome. > Just about quit using the computer. > > > Barb sc > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

In a message dated 1/31/2006 6:35:05 PM Central Standard Time, EVERETTLATTIMORE@aol.com writes: Weather has been nice. Dan did your rain stop? Barbara Did your rain start?? Shadow Bear are you still wonderful? Allie how are the kids? ======================================== We got a trace last Saturday but the wind had dried it all up. We are still in a burn ban and have been since November. Makes me wonder if we are in for another Dust Bowl time. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Hello Shadow Bear: I am fine tonight. My prayers are that you and all are well. How is your family?? I am glad AOL finally got me back to this Circle. I was lonesome when I could not see everyone's notes. Is Arkansas still good. I'm thinking of going to Arkansas in Spring. I have to find my Great grandmothers grave. I have heard her grave marker is gone. I must replace it. So, very glad to hear fro the circle and you. Barb sc

oh yes that nice to see. I seen it also it was beautiful. Kathy C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pestana, Sherry<mailto:PestanS@sutterhealth.org> To: CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:07 PM Subject: RE: [Cherokee Circle] Airlines The first time my son flew, we flew at night and we had to go through the middle of two storms. The lightening was crawling across the tops of the clouds and it looked like it was coming after the plane. It scared him so bad I could not keep him in the seat. He kept sliding down onto the floor so he did not have to see anything. I thought it was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen. Mother nature at her best.

Weather has been nice. Dan did your rain stop? Barbara Did your rain start?? Shadow Bear are you still wonderful? Allie how are the kids?

HONEY I'M HOOME AOL, finally got it right. So, glad to see everyone's post. Hi, Barb oklahoma, Hello Shadow Bear. Hey Allie. I was so lonesome. Just about quit using the computer. Barb sc

I think Me and my big mouth got this started==I told about a friend of mine that flew here ==the stuff that he went thru just to get on a plane the next day==than I told what I thought of flying==No you could not get me to fly anywhere SHADOW BEAR

Barbara sc.==Please don't ever talk about shuting off your computer==I would not have any one to pester==somethings here is tougue in cheek some is as I know it== that airplane thing is just the way it is for me ==How are you doing tonight? SHADOW BEAR

Gâ'sag*ila - Kwakiutl Gâ'sag*ila was a chief who had many carvings. He came from the south. He put them up when he reached the north country. He went to Gwa'wê in the country of the Na'k!wax*da?xu, and there he staid. There he made a winter-dance, and his son became a cannibal, whose names were Q!â'sElîdzas, Ha?mêk*!â'lag*ilîs, Ts!â'xôstâla. This son's son was K*!ô'gwikîlagEmê?, whose son was Q!u'mqwax*â'lasEmê?. Tradition of the Na'k!wax*da?xu. Taken from: Kwakiutl Tales by Franz Boas. [1910] (Columbia University Contributions to Anthropology, Vol. II.) From Blue Panther Keeper of Stories.

I have flown but I take the train.Really don`t like flying unless I have to.But it does not matter if you are in a plane ,train,or bus,or car.All of it is dangerous.It is all in a persons preference.We aren`t going to go til Creators says it is time.Gloria "Virginia A." <vdach@gte.net> wrote: WHAT?????? may I ask? started this conversation? Shadowbear, are you supposed to fly somewhere???? Flying is fun. There are all sorts of things to see. Between here and California you can see the tops of many volcanoes. It is really neat to see. You see the rivers and the mountains that you could never see from the ground even if you live to be a thousand years old. You see the fluffy clouds and you are actually above them. They make shadows on the ground below. It is unbelievable. After the first flight, you will realize it can get you to places much faster than you an drive and you will be ready to take other flights. First ya gotta git on the horse (bird)! Virginia in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: "shadowbear270" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:14 PM Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Airlines > Sherry==I think you have the short way solution==If they got me drunk > enough they might get me on==who wants to be on that airplane when I > wake up? > > SHADOW BEAR > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx <Look not at the Eyes but at the Soul>--Little Eagle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

In a message dated 1/31/2006 2:45:25 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: I just had a thought==If one of those things went over my ancestors I think there would not be an arrow left in the village==I know the first time one went over my head==I tried to dig a hundred foot deep hole and fast Shadowbeaar, I live under the flight pattern of a small airport and sometimes I wish I had a slingshot to get them up higher. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 1/31/2006 1:55:41 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: A few years ago I was drafted==could have been in either the air force or the marines belive me I didn't go to the air forcethey told us we might have to fly==I looked back didn't have any wings I knew I would not fly very good==I did have feet and I could walk so here come s the marines SHADOW BEAR Shadowbear, I love your looking back and no wings but I bet you do and they come out when you are with loved ones. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

The first time my son flew, we flew at night and we had to go through the middle of two storms. The lightening was crawling across the tops of the clouds and it looked like it was coming after the plane. It scared him so bad I could not keep him in the seat. He kept sliding down onto the floor so he did not have to see anything. I thought it was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen. Mother nature at her best. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: Virginia A. [mailto:vdach@gte.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:55 AM To: CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Airlines Hi Sherry, I wasn't going to tell him about flying in those things. They are awesome, but if he hasn't flown the idea could be less than favorable. Virginia in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pestana, Sherry" <PestanS@sutterhealth.org> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: RE: [Cherokee Circle] Airlines > The best time to fly is when it is storming and you can fly between two > storms. When the lightening flash's and comes straight at you in the > plane, wow, it is awesome. > > > > Sherry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bettye Woodhull [mailto:betron1@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:04 AM > To: CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Airlines > > Good morning, Shadowbear: > Please know that after that first time of taking off, the next time > will > be easier. Now, when you realize that you can look down on top of new > horizons and get a new glimpse of clouds, mountains and rivers such as > you > cannot imagine then you will say "this is the way to go"!! My first > glimpse > of the Grand Canyon from above is so different than how you view it from > > your seeing it standing on the ground. > I had never seen Mt. Ranier except in pictures until we flew over it > in > a MD80 on a full moon night as we approached Seattle/Tacoma airport. > That > view was worth the ticket price from D/FW! We were low enough on the > approach in to get a real good view and high enough that it allowed a > good > 45 second or more viewing. These have to be the two most memorable > looks at > the "world from above" that I can remember. > Flying is not for the birds! Bettye > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shadowbear270" <shadowbear270@webtv.net> > To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:20 PM > Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Airlines > > > > Barbara==If there was some way they could get me on one of those > > airplanes I think maybe I would tear something important off of that > > plane before they got me to let go of the door==I know there would be > a > > large hole in the side of that airplane==so next time you get on one > of > > those things ==look around I might be on that thing==would be in the > > middle of a fightor in the middle of the hole going out > > > > SHADOW BEAR > > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner > below > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the > > areas they lived. 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