Shadowbear: Was that Coffeeville, Clarke County, Alabama? My dad's side of the family is Creek/Cherokee mostly Creek and settled there in the 1820's after being "invited" to leave Georgia. My 3g grandparents were then wiped out in the Creek War of 1836 in Clarke County, Alabama. They stayed however till about 1900 and moved to the Bayou country of Louisiana because or the prejudice. Nothing like swamps and skeeters to even things up. Jerry shadowbear270 wrote: >Makes me think of driving thru Ala. a few years ago==had to park over >nite at a place called Coffeeville==Middle of the night they woke us up >by pounding on the truck with guns==it seems like someone was burning >churches in Ala. we got out they saw we were not the ones doing it just >made some friends now thery are doing it again==burning churchs I >mean==even now I don't understand why > > SHADOW BEAR > > >==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list >ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > >

I got spring fever all winter too. <G> Dan M www.wvi.com/~wb http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Genealogy_Chat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli" <iamcheroke@filertel.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Barb sc > I've had spring fever since the fall hit :) ====================>

Right now it appears to be an over abundance of moisture....but before Summer even starts here, but just after things thaw (about Mother's Day) we'll be beyond dry. This is only maybe the second yr in the 5 we've been out here to see even 1/2 as much rain or snow. But if the snow isn't in the mountains where we need it for our irrigation season it won't matter what ended up in the ground. Right now my flowers look like they have drowned, I don't think I'll have any strawberries :( but that's ok....I'll start over LOL Alli :) > Alli, > I wish we had some of your moisture. Everything here is so dry I am > afraid I > have lost a lot of my plants in the flower beds. > > Barbara > In Oklahoma Native America > > > > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

My paternal 3 great grandparents helped to open Bibb County AL up for homesteading, although they lived there briefly ca 1821 before pioneering into Perry County AL and lastly in Marion County AL. It was heartbreaking to hear that church burning has happened in that area once again. Bettye in Ft. Worth area. ----- Original Message ----- From: <BAPARHAM@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Church Fires > > > In a message dated 2/3/2006 10:24:51 AM Central Standard Time, > shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: > > we got out they saw we were not the ones doing it just > made some friends now thery are doing it again==burning churchs I > mean==even now I don't understand why > > > I think they are sick evil people. > > Barbara > In Oklahoma Native America > > > > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 2/3/2006 10:24:51 AM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: we got out they saw we were not the ones doing it just made some friends now thery are doing it again==burning churchs I mean==even now I don't understand why I think they are sick evil people. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Makes me think of driving thru Ala. a few years ago==had to park over nite at a place called Coffeeville==Middle of the night they woke us up by pounding on the truck with guns==it seems like someone was burning churches in Ala. we got out they saw we were not the ones doing it just made some friends now thery are doing it again==burning churchs I mean==even now I don't understand why SHADOW BEAR

In a message dated 2/2/2006 11:52:29 PM Central Standard Time, iamcheroke@filertel.com writes: I've had spring fever since the fall hit :) I'm trying to get caught up on house work, can't even think about doing anything outside. If its not wet & soggy from the rain its frozen & icy because of the snow. My garden most likely won't dry out until March or April. Alli :0) Alli, I wish we had some of your moisture. Everything here is so dry I am afraid I have lost a lot of my plants in the flower beds. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

I've had spring fever since the fall hit :) I'm trying to get caught up on house work, can't even think about doing anything outside. If its not wet & soggy from the rain its frozen & icy because of the snow. My garden most likely won't dry out until March or April. Alli :0) > > > I am not hiding just being lazy or could be early spring fever. > > Barbara > In Oklahoma Native America > > > > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

In a message dated 2/2/2006 3:24:00 PM Central Standard Time, blue_panther@otelco.net writes: Ga-n Becomes Raven Old Man's Son-In-Law: The ga-n Disappear From Tse-gots'uk - Apache / White Mountain Thanks for all the good stories today. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Game of Ball: Legends and Folklore of the Northern Lights - Inuit Most Inuit groups have a myth of the northern lights as the spirits of the dead playing ball with a walrus head or skull. The Inuits of Nunivak Island had the opposite idea, of walrus spirits playing with a human skull Folklore is from Legends of the Northern Lights, by Dorothy Jean Ray, The ALASKA SPORTSMAN, April 1958, reprinted in AURORA BOREALIS The Amazing Northern Lights, by S.I. Akasofu, Alaska Geographic, Volume 6, Number 2, 1979 From Blue Panther Keeper of Stories.

Wado. soquili BAPARHAM@aol.com wrote: > > >In a message dated 2/1/2006 11:03:54 PM Central Standard Time, >mtndream@ix.netcom.com writes: > >She just left me for a better man, the Lord. >donadagohvi, >Soquiliwodi, Tsayonah's husband and life mate > > > >Prayers are on the way for you and family. > >Barbara >In Oklahoma Native America > > > > > > > > > >

Hello Cheyenne, Don't know how long you've been here as your name/addy doesn't look familiar to me (even though that means nothing LOL) We discuss the Cherokee People History, Heritage, culture, etc. we also chat. :) We basically chat while we wait for someone to come up w/a question or information that we can start discussing....... The Flu shots people are getting will not prevent you from getting the flu.....despite what Dr.'s say. some have a reaction to the shot & get the flu strain that they just took & other's end up catching the flu strain that's actually going around. So its never a guarantee. Hope your husband gets to feeling better & that you don't catch it. Alli :) > Hello...I was waiting on a topic I could respond to...is this a chat > forum? I thought it was an educational updated Cherokee People > discussing History ..etc. Are you all Cherokees? > > Also I work full time and only have a little free time. My husband came > home with flu like symptoms even though we took shots...many here have > gotten this "flu" ..its more like intestinal flu here... > > In Love and Light, > Cheyenne > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

In a message dated 2/2/2006 2:57:43 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Some thing funny?I think it has rained once a week sense I moved here ==we also get some hair raising Tornados here that is ok also I just head for root cellar SHADOW BEAR Shadowbear we watched the terrible tornado that hit Oklahoma City several years ago and as we went into the cellar it was headed straight for us but when it hit the river it turned. It was HUGE and awesome to even see it. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

In a message dated 2/2/2006 2:50:36 PM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: My people did live just soulh of Ark.in the Red River country in Texas==You sure are right about this lack of rain makes you think of the dust bowl SHADOW BEAR A lot of my Grandmother's family was in Texas around Gainesville. He Father's name was Gaines Parkhill and his Father was scalped and killed by a group of Indian raiders. But that is history and in the past. I am just rambling. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America

Hi Cheyenne- If there is a topic or question that you wold like to bring up, feel free to bring it up for discussion. WES-Norma --Florida

Hello...I was waiting on a topic I could respond to...is this a chat forum? I thought it was an educational updated Cherokee People discussing History ..etc. Are you all Cherokees? Also I work full time and only have a little free time. My husband came home with flu like symptoms even though we took shots...many here have gotten this "flu" ..its more like intestinal flu here... In Love and Light, Cheyenne

Some thing funny?I think it has rained once a week sense I moved here ==we also get some hair raising Tornados here that is ok also I just head for root cellar SHADOW BEAR

My people did live just soulh of Ark.in the Red River country in Texas==You sure are right about this lack of rain makes you think of the dust bowl SHADOW BEAR

This email is to amplify the message from Alli and Shadowbear. I had to go to the hospital Tues.for a Breathing Functions test as a "before thing" before seeing my Pulmonary Doctor next week. The young man who administers these breathing tests told me that he had his "flu shot" and "still got the flu", and he thought at first it was just allergies (based on how it started with coughing and sneezing) so he did not see his doctor immediately. He said it hit him as hard as any flu he ever had ( I am guessing he is in his early 50's), and he was still coughing "up toe nails!" - a very deep raspy cough. ( I warned him to keep his distance from me!). While I was having my inhaler medication between "breath-ins and blow outs ", he walked out into the hall and had a "real good coughing spell to get some drainage up". Folks, I am hearing of more cases of flu here in the Ft. Worth area that is from people who did have the flu shots and my suggestion is to not go near where people are congregated!! unless it is a well ventilated room!! We know these mild weather days we are having thru out the southland isn't killing any of the germs, so take all precautions - you know what they are. Good heath to all. Bettye in Ft. Worth area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alli" <iamcheroke@filertel.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hello everyone > The flu shot doesn't necessary if ever cover the strain of flu that > actually goes around. > They guess on which strain is going around & create the shot for it. > > That's why I think its a waste to get the shot, especially when most > people end up sick after getting it. > > Please get to feeling better Shadow Bear > > Alli :) > >> shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: >> >> That was really fun last night talking to everyone==tonight I am very >> dizzy so tonight not very long==tell everyone there is a flu going >> around that is not covered by that flu shot==It was nice and warm today >> just could not go outside==did think about going still thinking about >> just thinking about it > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 2/2/2006 5:11:56 AM Central Standard Time, shadowbear270@webtv.net writes: Sorry I have not been on this thing ==been a little busy ==I think maybe after I read the mail I will be snozing==this time Iwill have one eye open===== SHADOW BEAR Shadowbear I will be trying to clean this pig pen I call a home. LOL Then a nap sounds great. Barbara In Oklahoma Native America