Buffalo Field Campaign Update from the Field March 2, 2006 http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org In This Issue: * Update from the Field * Contact Governor Schweitzer About Migration Road Signs * You Choose! Your Decisions Affect the Fate of the Wild Buffalo * BFC One of a Kind Art Auction - Bidding Starts Today! * Work in Yellowstone this Summer -- BFC has Openings starting June 1 * Last Words ------------------------------ View Exclusive Video Footage & Photos: http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org ------------------------------ Make a Secure Online Donation to BFC: http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/pcshop2/bazaar.html ------------------------------ Join BFC on the Front Lines - Volunteer! http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/aboutus/volunteeringatcamp.html ------------------------------ Why are they killing the last wild buffalo? http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/issueinbrief.html ------------------------------ * Update from the Field After so many intense weeks of wild buffalo slaughter, with nearly 1,000 lost to us forever, there is an eerie quality to the government's recent inaction. This week there have been no management-initiated captures or slaughter. Things have been relatively quiet for both wild buffalo and BFC volunteers. But, like a calm before a storm, it carries an uneasy feeling. Yellowstone National Park wranglers in Gardiner have been harassing wild buffalo on a consistent basis, hazing them off of land that for ten millennia has been part of the wild buffalo landscape. One private landowner - the Church Universal & Triumphant (CUT) - owns less than 150 cattle that graze freely in a valley critical for wildlife forage and movement. This church claims to be "one" with all Life, claims to be part of the Great Mystery, yet the slaughter of wild buffalo seems to sit well with them. In fact, they demand it. Their frequent calls to the Park Service, urging them to "deal" with America's last wild buffalo that are on "their" land have caused great and shameful slaughter. What if god is a Buffalo? Surely, one form the Creator takes is that of buffalo. Yet, in contrast to their chanted "truths," CUT allows their cattle to wander, defiling the Yellowstone River, mocking the wild buffalo and giving the Park Service "reason" for their slaughter and imprisonment. Just across the street from where CUT cattle graze, 100 wild buffalo calves whose mothers and relatives have been slaughtered, are caged and tagged, forced into an existence of humiliating domestication. Following their natural instinct to migrate, the nomadic buffalo are constantly punished for doing what Nature created them to do. One, two, three strikes and a buffalo is "out'; deemed "unhazable" and can be shot or captured and sent to slaughter. Even the Park Service, an agency sworn to protect wild species, disrespects the wild nature of buffalo. Expecting them to adhere to man-made demands falls into the category of domestication. "Unhazeable" is indeed admirable, but unfortunately it can mean death as the current tally of 849 slaughtered buffalo are testament to. This is what it looks like when you give ignorance power. In West Yellowstone warmer temperatures have brought wet snow, rain, and a slushy landscape. Should a cold snap come again, freezing could spell serious trouble for our gentle, grazing friends, like it did during the winter of 1996-1997. The buffalo depend on their awesome strength to move snow with their massive heads, enabled by the pronounced hump muscles atop their shoulders. Cratering, as it's called, is difficult enough and would become impossible through solid ice, making a mass exodus to snow-less grasses imminent. But, for now, a taste of Spring is in the air. Seasonal migrations along the Park's western boundary are heavily increasing. An awesome event to celebrate, but the dangers of the highway and looming "management" make it bittersweet at best. BFC field patrols are very busy warning motorists of the presence of wild buffalo along highways 191 and 287, routes that dissect and interfere with critical wildlife migration. BFC patrols are basically doing the job of the local law enforcement who choose to ignore the buffalo's massive presence. Warning traffic can be a dangerous job for our patrols, but it must be done. It was extremely poor planning to place a major, commercially used, high-speed thoroughfare through the heart of a passage critical to our wild relatives. BFC is here for the safety of the wild buffalo and the safety of motorists. Buffalo are huge and have little respect for vehicles; they also have the awesome ability to make quite an effective roadblock. Knowing the dangers of highways to wildlife, one can't help but admire the buffalo's ability to do this. Yet some do so at their peril. Last Spring, after losing more than 20 wild buffalo to auto collisions, BFC submitted a request to the Governor and Department of Transportation, asking for warning signs and a reduced speed limit. It only made sense - even if you look at it from the totally human aspect of personal safety. We thought we were heard; at the start of Montana's hunt (long before mass-migration began), the state set up two electronic road signs in the West Yellowstone area, on the north and south ends of 191, north of Duck Creek and south of the Madison River. These huge signs helped to warn motorists that a wildlife migration was in progress. The speed limit was also lowered from 70 mph to 55 mph. The signs and reduced speed certainly helped raise awareness of the presence of wildlife and calmed speed on the road. Especially the semis; highway 191 is largely used by tourists to Yellowstone National Park and Gallatin National Forest, locals and giant semis. Semis need to have fair warning, so these signs were especially helpful to them. But, just as the heavy migration is about to begin, the signs were inexplicably removed this week and the speed limit is back up. We have to wonder: were the migration signs placed as a feel-good gesture by the State to make their hunt seem less insulting? By what "logic" do they justify removing these signs and raising the speed at the exact moment the mass-migration is beginning? It's a no-brainer: the buffalo are migrating and traffic must be warned. Further, it's a critical corridor for many wild animals and the speed should be reduced and traffic warned. When the DOL resumes their massive hazing operations, buffalo road crossings will increase at an unnecessary rate (buffalo that crossed safely will be pushed back towards the Park and forced to cross roads again and again) and traffic nightmares will be common. BFC patrols will continue to do what we can to help the buffalo cross safely, and help motorists avoid collisions with them. It is the responsibility of the State to do this, and much more needs to be done. For the buffalo, the highway is a walkway, a dangerous path of least resistance that landed in the midst of their ancient route. Should a serious accident occur, the state might be held accountable since they removed all warning of the presence of buffalo. For the buffalo, it's yet one more challenge of living in an ever-expanding human-dominated world and it is man's responsibility to learn to coexist, which requires patience and admiration for life's awesome events. With the Buffalo, ~Stephany ------------------------------ * Contact Governor Schweitzer About Migration Road Signs Please contact Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer and ask him why the migration warning signs were removed and why the speed limit was increased. Millions visit Yellowstone via this corridor each year, and someone you know might be in danger. Tell him that the timing of this action is detrimental to the lives of tourists, locals and commercial vehicles. Even if they want to ignore the buffalo, they should take care not to ignore the people who use that stretch of highway. Urge Schweitzer's office to work with the Department of Transportation and make the highways - specifically highway. 191 - permanently safer. Urge him to immediately replace the warning signs and reduce the speed limit once again. Govern Brian Schweitzer 406-444-3111 ------------------------------ * You Choose! Your Decisions Affect the Fate of the Wild Buffalo The cattle industry is one of the most powerful in America, a country that prides itself on economics and is willing to do anything to maintain the Empire's economic stability. The greedy search for the all-mighty dollar manifests itself in the destruction of our Mother Earth. The 19th Century buffalo slaughter was in part undertaken to clear the land for fattening cattle. How and where we choose to spend our dollars can make or break this chain of destruction. The Buffalo Field Campaign strongly advocates a Boycott of beef products, because buffalo are refused access to their native habitat, harassed and slaughtered so the cattle industry may thrive. In truth, the cattle industry locks up our public lands, destroys watersheds, wages war on wildlife, ruins sensitive landscapes, and sells a dangerous product. BFC board member Scott Frazier asks that we consider the wild buffalo, honor the sacred and choose responsibly. He eloquently asks that we respect the lives of the sacred buffalo by refraining from choosing Montana beef. In his own words: http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/aboutus/artthoughts/ehnamani.html For more information about BFC's Boycott of the Beef/Cattle industry visit: http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/actnow/boycott.html ------------------------------ * BFC One of a Kind Art Auction - Bidding Starts Today! This one of a kind gourd bowl was created by me, Melanie Kelley. When I started it I fully intended to create a piece that was simply to show off my talents. It was never my intention to try to sell it. I needed a show-stopper in my booth. I needed a piece to enter into the many contests that occur in the art shows that I do. The kind of piece that folks would simply marvel at but never purchase. It did it's job very well and I won several awards with it. Now, it is time to put it to better use.... to help save our beloved Yellowstone buffalo. Auction begins today, March 2, 5 PM EST. To view a picture, read more about the piece, and learn how to place a bid: http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/bisonmerchandise/bisonart022306.html ------------------------------ * Work in Yellowstone this Summer -- BFC has Openings starting June 1 Every summer, BFC volunteers spend days in Yellowstone, sharing buffalo stories, news, and information with thousands of park visitors. Many of these visitors have no idea of the fate befalling the buffalo every winter and spring. Join us in one of the continents most beautiful spots and help stop the slaughter of the Yellowstone buffalo. Summer volunteers receive room, board, and a small stipend. For more information, write to: buffalo@wildrockies.org ------------------------------ * Last Words The snow, once white, is yet again red with blood. I am here to speak for the thousand who have passed over to the spirit world and also those yet in danger. I have come to demand the stop of the genocide against my relatives of the Tatanka Oyate, Buffalo Nation. Gerald Millard, Lakota, March 1997 ------------------------------ -- Media Coordinator Buffalo Field Campaign PO Box 957 West Yellowstone, MT 59758 (406) 646-0070 bfc-media@wildrockies.org http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org ------------------------------------ BFC is the only group working in the field every day to defend the last wild herd of buffalo in America. BOYCOTT BEEF! It's what's killing wild buffalo. Stay informed! Get our weekly email Updates from the Field: Send your email address to bfc-media@wildrockies.org Speak Out! Contact politicians and involved agencies today! http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/actnow/politicians.html Write a Letter to the Editor of key newspapers! http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/actnow/lte.html Help the buffalo by recycling your used printer cartridges and cell phones! It's free and easy and it helps the planet and provides support to the BFC. Visit http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/support/recycleprint.html. ************************************************************************ List-Subscribe: mailto:Stop-the-Slaughter-on@vortex.wildrockies.org List-Unsubscribe: mailto:Stop-the-Slaughter-off@vortex.wildrockies.org News Submissions or Problems: mailto:bfc-media@wildrockies.org

Shadow, your comment about how we, (Cherokee people) are quiet, brought a question to mind. Has any one ever been accused of 'having an attitude' or 'not trying to fit in' because of this being quiet? I can not tell you how many people I have worked for that did not understand being quiet, staying to myself and just doing my work instead of being part of the office gossip group. Sher -----Original Message----- From: shadowbear270 [mailto:shadowbear270@webtv.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:55 PM To: CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Hiding I can tell you if you find much of your family it is because they didn't do a good job of disappearing ==this what the Cherokee tried to do ==this part of the country they called themselfs hillbillys other places== Black Irish-french-black dutch-what ever worked==one old chief gave every one in his tribe a new surname in the same family there was smith-jones-brown-etc.this when Mo.said there was no indians in Mo. SHADOW BEAR ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Being Cherokee maybe you can tell I am not very good talking== Every one here is family and does have a place in the circle==there is words said for you every day ==I talk with the Great Spirit evey day and we talk about every one I know==every one I ever met is a friend so I am talking much longer then before SHADOW BEAR

Hey Folks......I been Hiding out with the Lakota's for about 15-16 yrs.......is this the list to find out 'bout some Contrary Issues.........Like Medicine Stuff............. ----- Original Message ----- From: EVERETTLATTIMORE@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:15 AM To: CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Hiding Shadow Bear: My great grandmother sure hid well. She was never born and never died Only got married and had 6 children. That seems to be her life. I can not find her parents and can not find her death certificate. Only, family tells of death. But, can't find family to tell of her birth. Barb SC ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashxGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Thanks Bear........Just sent some good thoughts up for you too my friend....and all my Relations..... ----- Original Message ----- From: shadowbear270@webtv.net Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:20 AM To: CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Cherokee Circle] Maybe make some sence Being Cherokee maybe you can tell I am not very good talking== Every one here is family and does have a place in the circle==there is words said for you every day ==I talk with the Great Spirit evey day and we talk about every one I know==every one I ever met is a friend so I am talking much longer then before SHADOW BEAR ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashxGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Shadow Bear: My great grandmother sure hid well. She was never born and never died Only got married and had 6 children. That seems to be her life. I can not find her parents and can not find her death certificate. Only, family tells of death. But, can't find family to tell of her birth. Barb SC

My wife was a Brown when I married her. Garland Walker When a friend sees a friend with a tear in their eye and it falls hits the ground that friend catches the second tear and stops the third tear ----- Original Message ----- From: "shayne christen" <shayne777@msn.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Just a little something >I have some Brown Family lines.....Hey Kev......Got any Alvin Brown link >ups??? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: KRobertsInCA@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:39 PM > To: CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Just a little something > > > Thanks Joyce, > I know that there have been many that made assumptions about my Brown > family > line which is John Thomas Brown descending from Sarah Canoe. > Knowing so little about the research angles and where to begin, I have > just > not followed up on it yet. I stopped at the Guion Miller Roll rejections. > I > do appreciate your kind words and help though. > Thanks again, > Kevin... > > > > > In a message dated 3/1/2006 3:58:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > bjreece@bellsouth.net writes: > > Nothing to be sorry about....not at all, Kevin. You might enjoy this > list > too > > That is the reason for joining list. You can get guidance, direction or > plain ol' proof that will connect you line. > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashxGet more from the Web. > FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

In a message dated 3/1/2006 8:27:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, iamcheroke@filertel.com writes: Your welcome :) This is a great list as is the Gene list. Full of helpful people. I didn't see your original message, but I can try & help w/researching if you need it. Its frustrating at times, but still fun. Alli :) I posted also, earlier, about researching my Brown/Clubb family. Thanks, Kevin..

In a message dated 3/1/2006 8:27:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, iamcheroke@filertel.com writes: Your welcome :) This is a great list as is the Gene list. Full of helpful people. I didn't see your original message, but I can try & help w/researching if you need it. Its frustrating at times, but still fun. Alli :) Hi Alli, Thanks for your reply. My original post was in search of my Martin family ancestors in Tennessee as so little is known of them. I then got a suggestion that I should investigate the CherokeeGene list and look for someone named Glee. The person who made the suggestion, Joyce, just thought I should investigate Joseph Martin and any Native American linkage. Not sure where to start. She thought Glee might recognize something about my ancestor, Louis Martin. My original post is below. Thanks, Kevin in California Greetings All, I am searching for the following surnames in Tennessee. Sadly, I don't have as much information to provide as I have seen many of the previous posters provide. Green or Clun in Lincoln County, TN ( via Madison Co. Alabama ) Martin County unknown. I seek other Martin family researchers who have a Lewis/Louis Martin in their family line. Born approximately 1877-1878. No parental or sibling information is currently known. What is known: Louis Martin fled Tennessee approximately 1895-1900 with friend, William Nathan Bailey. Both Louis Martin and Nathan Bailey settled in Oklahoma Indian Territory and married sisters by the last name of Green. Family lore indicates that Louis Martin fled Tennessee after being involved in a shooting. It is believed that he was contacted sometime later and told that the man did not die and he could come home. He elected to not leave Oklahoma I.T. as he had already married and started a family. I am in the hopes that some of the descendents this family who contacted him may still be in Tennessee. Louis Martin died of influenza/pneumonia in 1917. At the time of his death no information was provided on Louis Martin's parents as his wife stated she knew of no information. On one census he lists a birth state of Ohio but I suspect that may have been a lie to protect is hiding status...possible? On his death record his wife stated that he was born in Tennessee. I would love to hear from any Martin family researchers who have a Louis/Lewis Martin in their line to see if we can make a connection. Respectfully, Kevin Roberts

In a message dated 3/1/2006 7:38:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, KRobertsInCA@aol.com writes: My Gr. Great grandmother was a, as best as I can figure, step sister to Charlie Francis Brown Correction..that would be half sister. Sorry.. Kevin

Hi Bev, That seems to coincide closely to the family outline that was provided to me by a Clubb family researcher who managed to get a copy. Actually, I have 2 outlines. 1. Descendants of Moytoy of Settico 2. Outline for Brown family starting with Attakullakulla. My Gr. Great grandmother was a, as best as I can figure, step sister to Charlie Francis Brown. Her name was Violetta Elizabeth Brown, daughter of John Thomas Brown and, I suspect, Annie Liddle Russell due to her reported year of birth. I believe that Violetta reported her mother as Martha Bryant on her Guion Miller Roll application so I suspect that she may have always thought that Martha was her mother if John T. Brown married Martha while Violetta was very young. The Clubb family researcher who gave me the outlines was sure to tell me that it was unverified information. Sure seems like alot of assumption to me. However, I think one only need to look at photos of my Grandmother and Great Aunts to be certain that there is, in fact, Native American lineage in our family. I, being a relatively new researcher, have only dabbled at trying to investigate my Native American heritage due to my own research ignorances. It saddened me to find out that my Great Grandfather feared for the safety of his family and never investigated our heritage of which I am so proud no matter what our degree nativity. The only members of my family that might recall any tangible research leads are long since gone. My Grandmother rarely ever spoke of her very turbulent youth in Oklahoma. To my knowledge none of the few remaining family members know anything of the death and/or burial of Violetta Elizabeth Brown or her husband Frank Clubb. Thanks for sharing, Bev. I truly appreciate it. My Thanks to the list for their patience during my learning curve. Respectfully, Kevin in California >>>>>>>>> In a message dated 3/1/2006 6:51:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, Wmnbybrth@aol.com writes: Kevin, does this help? the Harrelson families in here are my relation. All of this has not been verified, as a lot of this was taken from the web. Bev

I can tell you if you find much of your family it is because they didn't do a good job of disappearing ==this what the Cherokee tried to do ==this part of the country they called themselfs hillbillys other places== Black Irish-french-black dutch-what ever worked==one old chief gave every one in his tribe a new surname in the same family there was smith-jones-brown-etc.this when Mo.said there was no indians in Mo. SHADOW BEAR

Kevin, does this help? the Harrelson families in here are my relation. All of this has not been verified, as a lot of this was taken from the web. Bev Chicamaguah Band War Chief Tai-ya-gansi-ni [he is] Dragging [the] Canoe Great Warrior Chuconesne, b ca 1730, died 1 March 1792, Lookout Town, Tennessee +U-ga-lo-gv Leaf, Nelly Pathkiller b ca 1730 daughter of Chief Pathkiller I and Peggy______ 5.Eyoostee 5.Crying Snake 5.Little [Dragging} Canoe b ca 1745 5.Little Owl Canoe b ca 1750 5.Gi-yo-sti b ca 1770 5.Talotiskee Nettle Carrier / Hemp Carrier b 1772 5.Nakey / Naky Sarah Canoe b ca 1752 +Alexander William Brown II b ca 1750 son of Alexander I , son of John I. 6.Saynee / Sayney / Sawney Alexander Brown Jr, or III b 1768 Calhoun County, GA d 13 September 1842 Polk County MO +First: on 20 February 1797 Violet Barton b ca 1777 daughter of Burrell Eagle Barton and Quaikee Quanaity 7.Thomas Brown 1797 to 13 September 1842 Polk County MO +Mary Polly Turner 7.Sarah Brown b 1802 Bedford County, VA d Grayson County Va +*First:Elijah Hembelton on 4 January 1820 +**Second: Isaac Isaiah "Izar" Fields d Grayson County Va 8.George William Fields +Rosa Fender 8.Isiah Brown Hambelton b 21 October 1820 Christian County, KY d 9 December 1877 Polk County MO +Martha Maxie 9.Elijah Green Hambleton 17 November 1842 to 25 June 1911 MO +Nancy Marcella Joanna Harrelson on 30 May 1878 in MO daughter of James Harrelson and Mary Hartsell 10.George Washington Hambelton 5 April 1879 10.Martha Elizabeth Hambelton 16 January 1881 10.Isiah Harralson Hambelton 24 July 1885 +Ada Virginia Cook 10.Elijah Columbus "Lum" Hambelton 3 August 1889 10.Ebbon Sylvestr Hambelton 9 June 1894 9.Nancy Jane Hambelton 1 January 1844 9.James Nathan Hambelton 24 November 1845 9.Sarah Elizabeth Hambelton 4 May 1847 9.Mary Villety Hambelton 25 February 1850 9.Martha Dove Hambelton II 1851 9.William Zachariah Hambelton 1855 9.Josephine B. Hambelton 16 November 1857 9.John Wesley Hambelton 8 September 1859 9.Isiah Walker Hambelton 1862 9.Cidney C. Hambelton 8 Septembr 1864 8.Martha Dove Hambelton b 21 October 1820 Christian County KY d on 9 December 1900 Polk County MO +Vincent Harrelson b 1817 in TN d in MO. son of David Harrelson, and Peachy Nunn, Gson of Paul Harrelson and Nancy Lea, GGson of Peter Harrelson and Mary Chambers, GGGson of Paul Harrelson and Rebecca Burges. 9.Amanda Harrelson b Nov 1844 in MO 9.Lorinda Harrelson b Mar 1847 in MO 9.Alonzo Harrelson b 1849 in MO 9. Nathan Strumlow Harrelson b 1853 in MO 9. Jackie Louise Harrelson b 1854 in MO 9. Sarah Harrelson b 1858 in MO 9. James A Harrelson b 1860 in MO 9. Vincent Harrelson b 1862 in MO 8.Mary Jane Hambelton 25 November 1826 8.James A. Hambelton 9 May 1828 8.Vilette K. Hambelton 9 March 1830 8.Zachariah S. Hambelton 6 June 1832 8.Sarah Elvina Hambeltton 29 July 1834 7.Susan Brown b 1818 Virginia +Moses Proctor on 15 April 1838, son of James Proctor and Catherine Swadley; James the son of John Sr. 8.Mary A. Proctor 1839 8.James H. Proctor 1841 8.Z. Proctor 1842 8.Lavanda Proctor 1842 8.Daniel Proctor 1847 8.Thomas F. Proctor 1849 8.Hiram Proctor Sr. b 1844 Polk County MO +On 14 April 1866, in Jefferson County KA Amanda Dungan b 1845 in Kentuckey, daughter of Joh Dungan and Mary Bishop 9.Martha Jane Proctor b 1866 +William Porter 10.Delpha May Proter 3 February 1902 Fort Scott, KA to 6 March 1980 Fort Scott +on 26 January 1925 in Frot Scott, Charles William Atha. 11.Dolly May Atha 12 June 1930 Fort Scott +on 27 September 1948, in Mound City, KA Carl Oscar McCulley, son of Carl McCulley and Isabell Runyan 12.Connie Sue McCulley 30 April 1956 Fort Scott +First;Gary Webster on 7 May 1979, son of Calvin Webster and Edna Stevens 13.Kristin Lean Webster 24 June 1981 13.Dustin Joel Webster 22 September 1984 +Second; on 21 December 1991 in Chanute, KA Danny King, son of Edwin King and Ottis Wolf 13.Savannah Nicole King 1 August 1993 12.Linden Eugene McCulley +on 30 January 1982 in Chanute, KA Clarissa Stevens, daughter of Dorothy Marie Perkins 13.Matthew Thomas McCulley 16 July 1983 11.Norman Atha +on 20 August 1955 Grace Fletcher 12.Sherry Lee Atha 23 June 1956 Wichita KA +Phil Roney in Mulvane KA 12.Randy Atha 24 August 1957 Wichita KA 11.Thelma Welsh Atah 8 October 1919 to 1995 Independence MO +Harold Thurman 12.Daniel Thurman 10.Ernest Porter 14 October 1897 10.Clyde William Porter 13 December 1907 10.Alpha Ada Porter 17 September 1891 Irish Valley Community, near Mapelton KA to 12 Jaunary 1960 Fort Scott +on 27 November in Fortr Scott,Orval Crane 9.George Frank Proctor 8 March 1872-75 +on 12 September 1902 in Newkirk, OK Clara Rich, daughter of Jason Rich and Mary Spray 10.James William Proctor 10.Clyde E. Proctor 10.William Joseph Proctor +Anna Elizabeth Rich 9.Arthur William Proctor 9 September 1896 9.Mary Elizabeth Proctor 1871 9.Henry Robert Proctor 29 April 1879 9.Margaret Kathleen "Maggie" Proctor 1879-80 9.Harvey Roy Proctor 1882 9.Hiram Proctor Jr. 1882 9.James Alexander Arthur Proctor 17 December 1872 +Nora A. Jestus 10.Oliver Earl Proctor 1899-1911 Fort Scott 10.Leona Pearl Proctor 18 October 1901 to 1 September 1978 Mound City KA 10.Viola M. Proctor 1903 to 3 August 1989 Whittier, CA 10.Jessie Augusta Proctor 9 October 1907 to 13 October 1961 Santa Paula CA 10.Merle Proctor 22 December 1909 10.Lawrence Edward Proctor 25 June 1913 to 4 August 1982 Lenexa KA 10.Pauline Wilma Proctor 7 July 1917 to 11 February 1986 Ventura CA 10.Dorothy Birdie Proctor 30 May 1919 d Santa Paula CA 7.Annie Brwon b 1798 Bedford County VA +Robert Pace 7.Elizabeth Brown +on 25 July 1839 Hugh Ruth 7.Dicey Brown b 16 April 1808 Bedford County VA d 30 May 1890 Polk County MO +Daniel Fender 7.Isham Brown b 1810 Bedford County VA d 1864 Allen County KA +Matilda Tindall 7.Zachariah Brown b 1918 Virginia 7.John Burrell Brown b 1814 Virginia, aka:John Greenleaf Brown and Big Eye Brown to Texas ca 1840 +First; Elizabeth ___________ +Second; Helen____________ +Third; Loressa____________ +Fourth; Rachel Ore +Fifth:Catherine____________daughter of Nannie E. unidentified 8.Mary Brown b Texas 8.John D. Brown b Texas 8.Laurenda Ann Brown b Texas +James Henry Henderson, son of Martha M. Thornton, from Attala County, Mississippi Choctaw?? 7.Isham / Ison Alexander Brown +unidentified 8.John Thomas Brown b Indian Territory +unidentified 9.Charles Francis Brown b Tahlequah District

In a message dated 3/1/2006 5:23:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, shayne777@msn.com writes: I have some Brown Family lines.....Hey Kev......Got any Alvin Brown link ups??? Not that I know of. I will look at the family outline that was provided by another Brown family researcher to see if an Alvin Brown shows up there. Thanks, Kevin...

Your welcome :) This is a great list as is the Gene list. Full of helpful people. I didn't see your original message, but I can try & help w/researching if you need it. Its frustrating at times, but still fun. Alli :) > > Thanks Alli, > I appreciate your thoughts and kind words. I look forward to everything > the > list has to offer. Wishing I knew more of my family's Native culture so > that I would have more to offer in turn. Hopefully soon....I am still a > new > researcher. > Thanks again, > Kevin...

Thanks Alli, I appreciate your thoughts and kind words. I look forward to everything the list has to offer. Wishing I knew more of my family's Native culture so that I would have more to offer in turn. Hopefully soon....I am still a new researcher. Thanks again, Kevin... In a message dated 3/1/2006 6:17:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, iamcheroke@filertel.com writes: Kevin you did subscribe to the right list (a helpful one) Its not a matter of "talking real nice" just use the addy that was sent for the Genealogy list & you'll be fine. The CherokeeGene list is strictly for Genealogy research with some talk, but its connected to your info. not just every day chatting (which does happen on a rare occasion) This list is mainly for the history/heritage/culture of the Cherokee tribe. Also a great & helpful list to be a part of & learn. Welcome to the list Alli :)

Thanks Joyce, I know that there have been many that made assumptions about my Brown family line which is John Thomas Brown descending from Sarah Canoe. Knowing so little about the research angles and where to begin, I have just not followed up on it yet. I stopped at the Guion Miller Roll rejections. I do appreciate your kind words and help though. Thanks again, Kevin... In a message dated 3/1/2006 3:58:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, bjreece@bellsouth.net writes: Nothing to be sorry about....not at all, Kevin. You might enjoy this list too That is the reason for joining list. You can get guidance, direction or plain ol' proof that will connect you line. Joyce Gaston Reece

Kevin you did subscribe to the right list (a helpful one) Its not a matter of "talking real nice" just use the addy that was sent for the Genealogy list & you'll be fine. The CherokeeGene list is strictly for Genealogy research with some talk, but its connected to your info. not just every day chatting (which does happen on a rare occasion) This list is mainly for the history/heritage/culture of the Cherokee tribe. Also a great & helpful list to be a part of & learn. Welcome to the list Alli :) ----- Original Message ----- From: <KRobertsInCA@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Just a little something > > Hi Joyce, > Thanks. I have always been a little hesitant to join any of the Cherokee > lists as nobody has been able to prove our linkage yet. > Sorry...I thought I had subscribed to the correct one. > Thanks for letting me know. > > Kevin in California

Nothing to be sorry about....not at all, Kevin. You might enjoy this list too That is the reason for joining list. You can get guidance, direction or plain ol' proof that will connect you line. Joyce Gaston Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: <KRobertsInCA@aol.com> To: <CHEROKEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Just a little something > > Hi Joyce, > Thanks. I have always been a little hesitant to join any of the Cherokee > lists as nobody has been able to prove our linkage yet. > Sorry...I thought I had subscribed to the correct one. > Thanks for letting me know. > > Kevin in California > > > In a message dated 3/1/2006 3:39:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > bjreece@bellsouth.net writes: > > Kevin > > This is the Cherokee Circle list. Glee is on the CherokeeGene-L list. > CherokeeGene-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Dan has both lists and if you talk really nice he'll see to it that you > get > subbed to the other list. > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > > > ==== CHEROKEE Mailing List ==== > <<>OPEN forum to all Cherokee topics - except Genealogy<>> > <>Culture-History-Language-Folk lore and Truths<> > Good Manners & Language is required to be on the list > ALL the links you will need to sub and unsub or contact listowner below > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Native/CHEROKEE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/272 - Release Date: 3/1/2006 > >

Hi Joyce, Thanks. I have always been a little hesitant to join any of the Cherokee lists as nobody has been able to prove our linkage yet. Sorry...I thought I had subscribed to the correct one. Thanks for letting me know. Kevin in California In a message dated 3/1/2006 3:39:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, bjreece@bellsouth.net writes: Kevin This is the Cherokee Circle list. Glee is on the CherokeeGene-L list. CherokeeGene-L-request@rootsweb.com Dan has both lists and if you talk really nice he'll see to it that you get subbed to the other list. Joyce Gaston Reece