Hi Nancy, Could you post this 640 land experiment site for all of us to see. Thank you, Tonya ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy McGinty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions Joyce, Thanks so much for this information. I am going to forward you a link to a webpage that I have been looking at. It refers to the 640 acres experiment. Nancy McG On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Joyce G. Reece <[email protected]> wrote: > The story of Fort Armistead has been in several newspapers including the > Knoxville Sentinal. > > The story is this: > > In 1817 a treaty was signed that ceded land that was, in part, to become > McMinn and Monroe counties. The surveyor party was instructed to begin at > Jolly's Island (now Hiwassee Island) at the mouth of the Hiwassee River, > east to North Carolina state line following the river. When the surveyor > party reached the Cherokee village of Savannah, which is where current day > hwy 411 crosses the Hiwassee, they stopped at the village to ask for > directions. The Ridge, who was named this because of his habit of traveling > along a trail that ran the top of these mountains told them a different way > to go, which they did. This trail left Savannah went up the end of Starr > Mountain at Gee Creek, along the top of the mountain to White Cliff, off > the mountain to Rural Vale (all modern day place names), on to the area just > near the Unicoi Gap, back up the mountains to the Indian Boundary (now the > camping area), off the end of Flats Mtn down to Citico Creek then down this > creek to the mouth where it enters the Little Tennessee. This surveyor > error left a swath of land that varied in width of apx 8 to 25 miles between > the survey line and the NC state line. Because of this many Cherokee > families who resided in this area were left where they were until the > Removal in 1838. > > Fort Armistead, which shows on the 1820-30 section map of the Hiwassee > District/Monroe County, was a small village and supply point for the > Cherokee until the Removal began, then it acted as a gathering point for > families headed west. After the Removal the family who owned the land paid > little attention to the village and it's future historical significance but > did maintain its integrity. Now, within the last 2 years the integrity of > the site is still intact and in the hands of the Cherokee National Forest. > The site is being guarded with the intensity it deserves and big plans are > in the works for it. A visitors center is planned adjacent to the village > site. Some excavations are being done but in the most part it is more > guarded than anything else. Anyone who enters the area has to be cleared > thru security. Chad Smith recently paid a visit to the site. It is said > to be the best preserved village of its kind in the world. Thank goodness > it is in a place where it will never be flooded by a TVA impoundment like > the Overhill Villages often were...such as Chota, Tenasi, Citico and many > others. > > Historians of this area, especially those of us interested in the Cherokee > aspect of this areas history have been overjoyed with this find. Monroe > County Archivist, Nelle Jo Stakely had a big hand in helping the > archeologist do the the historical research on this. I hope I'm not pushing > things too much to say that she and I discussed and researched the above > stated aspects concerning Fort Armistead and how it all came to be. > > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "myra reidy" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:17 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions > >> >> >> Would you please tell us more about the "finds" in Monroe County? It >> sounds very interesting. >> >> >> >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:43:58 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions >>> >>> The land CESSION would have been the Hiwassee Purchase or the Treaty of >>> 1817. This ceeded the land that is the section between the Little >>> Tennessee >>> River on the north, the big Tennessee on the west, the Hiwassee on the >>> south >>> and the NC line on the east. The surveyors did not survey the eastern >>> line >>> correctly and left off several miles on the eastern line so part Monroe >>> remained in Cherokee hands until the Removal in 1838. Thus the reason for >>> the huge archealogical find in the form of Fort Armistead in eastern >>> Monroe >>> Co. >>> >>> Joyce Gaston Reece >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Nancy McGinty" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:50 AM >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions >>> >>> > 'Siyo >>> > >>> > Thanks for the reply, but I may have been asking for the wrong thing. >>> > There was an attempt to "civilize" or make citizens of some of the >>> > Cherokees in 1817. They had a choice to apply for 640 acres of land >>> > in Tennessee, Georgia and maybe Alabama and become US citizens or go >>> > to Arkansas. I will go to the National Archives in Georgia next week, >>> > but am not quite sure of how to look this up. Do you have any ideas >>> > on this? >>> > Nancy McG >>> > >>> > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> 'siyo, >>> >> >>> >> http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ >>> >> >>> >> Sgi, >>> >> >>> >> Nill >>> >> -=- >>> >> >>> >> Nancy McGinty wrote: >>> >>> Can anyone refer me to a place where I might read more about the land >>> >>> cessions of 1817. Were any of these lands around Knox county, TN? >>> >>> Nancy MCG >>> >>> ======*====== >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ======*====== >>> >> List archives >>> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >>> >> ------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >>> > >>> > ======*====== >>> > List archives >>> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ======*====== >>> List archives >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ======*====== >> List archives >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joyce, Thanks so much for this information. I am going to forward you a link to a webpage that I have been looking at. It refers to the 640 acres experiment. Nancy McG On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Joyce G. Reece <[email protected]> wrote: > The story of Fort Armistead has been in several newspapers including the > Knoxville Sentinal. > > The story is this: > > In 1817 a treaty was signed that ceded land that was, in part, to become > McMinn and Monroe counties.  The surveyor party was instructed to begin at > Jolly's Island (now Hiwassee Island) at the mouth of the Hiwassee River, > east to North Carolina state line following the river.  When the surveyor > party reached the Cherokee village of Savannah, which is where current day > hwy 411 crosses the Hiwassee, they stopped at the village to ask for > directions.  The Ridge, who was named this because of his habit of traveling > along a trail that ran the top of these mountains told them a different way > to go, which they did.  This trail left Savannah went up the end of Starr > Mountain at Gee Creek, along the top of the mountain to White Cliff,  off > the mountain to Rural Vale (all modern day place names), on to the area just > near the Unicoi Gap, back up the mountains to the Indian Boundary (now the > camping area), off the end of Flats Mtn down to Citico Creek then down this > creek to the mouth where it enters the Little Tennessee.  This surveyor > error left a swath of land that varied in width of apx 8 to 25 miles between > the survey line and the NC state line.  Because of this many Cherokee > families who resided in this area were left where they were until the > Removal in 1838. > > Fort Armistead, which shows on the 1820-30 section map of the Hiwassee > District/Monroe County, was a small village and supply point for the > Cherokee until the Removal began, then it acted as a gathering point for > families headed west.  After the Removal the family who owned the land paid > little attention to the village and it's future historical significance but > did maintain its integrity.  Now, within the last 2  years the integrity of > the site is still intact and in the hands of the Cherokee National Forest. > The site is being guarded with the intensity it deserves and big plans are > in the works for it.  A visitors center is planned adjacent to the village > site.  Some excavations are being done but in the most part it is more > guarded than anything else.  Anyone who enters the area has to be cleared > thru security.  Chad Smith recently paid a visit to the site.   It is said > to be the best preserved village of its kind in the world.  Thank goodness > it is in a place where it will never be flooded by a TVA impoundment like > the Overhill Villages often were...such as Chota, Tenasi, Citico and many > others. > > Historians of this area, especially those of us interested in the Cherokee > aspect of this areas history have been overjoyed with this find.  Monroe > County Archivist, Nelle Jo Stakely had a big hand in helping the > archeologist do the the historical research on this.  I hope I'm not pushing > things too much to say that she and I discussed and researched the above > stated aspects concerning Fort Armistead and how it all came to be. > > > > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "myra reidy" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:17 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions > >> >> >> Would you please tell us more about the "finds" in Monroe County? It >> sounds very interesting. >> >> >> >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:43:58 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions >>> >>> The land CESSION would have been the Hiwassee Purchase or the Treaty of >>> 1817. This ceeded the land that is the section between the Little >>> Tennessee >>> River on the north, the big Tennessee on the west, the Hiwassee on the >>> south >>> and the NC line on the east. The surveyors did not survey the eastern >>> line >>> correctly and left off several miles on the eastern line so part Monroe >>> remained in Cherokee hands until the Removal in 1838. Thus the reason for >>> the huge archealogical find in the form of Fort Armistead in eastern >>> Monroe >>> Co. >>> >>> Joyce Gaston Reece >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Nancy McGinty" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:50 AM >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions >>> >>> > 'Siyo >>> > >>> > Thanks for the reply, but I may have been asking for the wrong thing. >>> > There was an attempt to "civilize" or make citizens of some of the >>> > Cherokees in 1817. They had a choice to apply for 640 acres of land >>> > in Tennessee, Georgia and maybe Alabama and become US citizens or go >>> > to Arkansas. I will go to the National Archives in Georgia next week, >>> > but am not quite sure of how to look this up. Do you have any ideas >>> > on this? >>> > Nancy McG >>> > >>> > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> 'siyo, >>> >> >>> >> http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ >>> >> >>> >> Sgi, >>> >> >>> >> Nill >>> >> -=- >>> >> >>> >> Nancy McGinty wrote: >>> >>> Can anyone refer me to a place where I might read more about the land >>> >>> cessions of 1817. Were any of these lands around Knox county, TN? >>> >>> Nancy MCG >>> >>> ======*====== >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ======*====== >>> >> List archives >>> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >>> >> ------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >>> > >>> > ======*====== >>> > List archives >>> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ======*====== >>> List archives >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ======*====== >> List archives >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >  ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Would you please tell us more about the "finds" in Monroe County? It sounds very interesting. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:43:58 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions > > The land CESSION would have been the Hiwassee Purchase or the Treaty of > 1817. This ceeded the land that is the section between the Little Tennessee > River on the north, the big Tennessee on the west, the Hiwassee on the south > and the NC line on the east. The surveyors did not survey the eastern line > correctly and left off several miles on the eastern line so part Monroe > remained in Cherokee hands until the Removal in 1838. Thus the reason for > the huge archealogical find in the form of Fort Armistead in eastern Monroe > Co. > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nancy McGinty" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:50 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions > > > 'Siyo > > > > Thanks for the reply, but I may have been asking for the wrong thing. > > There was an attempt to "civilize" or make citizens of some of the > > Cherokees in 1817. They had a choice to apply for 640 acres of land > > in Tennessee, Georgia and maybe Alabama and become US citizens or go > > to Arkansas. I will go to the National Archives in Georgia next week, > > but am not quite sure of how to look this up. Do you have any ideas > > on this? > > Nancy McG > > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: > >> 'siyo, > >> > >> http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ > >> > >> Sgi, > >> > >> Nill > >> -=- > >> > >> Nancy McGinty wrote: > >>> Can anyone refer me to a place where I might read more about the land > >>> cessions of 1817. Were any of these lands around Knox county, TN? > >>> Nancy MCG > >>> ======*====== > >>> > >>> > >> ======*====== > >> List archives > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ======*====== > > List archives > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yea, I remember us communicating Nancy. Mulatto was often a term used for mixed bloods be they black, white or Indian mistures. The government offered a square mile of land to those who asked and were eligible BUT they did not FORCE a removal to Arkansas to those who chose not to take or weren't elegible for a reservation. The first Cherokee who went to Arkansas did so voluntarily. There was more than one exodus. To the best of my knowledge I have seen 5. The first in 1809 with Tahlonteeskee. The second in 1817 when John Jolly left to go to western Arkansas to become principal chief of the Old Settlers when his brother died. The third was circa 1824 when Cherokee John Rogers took a group of mixed bloods from the southeast TN area. This group included a Lewis family I researched. The fourth was 1829 when a small group left that included Daniel Helton/Hilton and the fourth was the Treaty Party of 1835. There were, very possibly, other groups. All these were considered the Old Settlers. None were forcibly removed. What did happen with these is that in 1849 the gov't decided to make the first payment for Cherokee's who'd left their native land for Arkansas. They promised to pay 291.70 for each family member and their descendents who could prove they were desc. from anyone who had migrated into what was to become western Arkansas. This caused an exodus of mixed blood families from this region to western Arkansas. I know of one family who left Rossville Georgia. He was a fairly prominent businessman whose mother and father had left for Arkansas. When he learned of the proposed payments he picked up to go where mom and dad was so he could collect the money on his entire family of 12. Not a bad deal for a family that size in 1851. One thing I regret to this day is the fact that the Old Settlers payment applications are lost to us forever. They were an earlier version of the Dawes/Miller applications. Joyce Gaston Reece -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nancy McGinty" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 8:33 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions > Joyce, I was trying to find your address and couldn't put my hands on > it. I have written to you before but never thought that I had enough > for you to start looking with. I have since found that my 4th great > grandmother left her husband and five children in Ashe county, NC and > ran off with a mulatto who must have been half Indian. I have just > found info on the attempt by the US government in 1817 to make > citizens of some Indians, especially the mixed blood by giving them > 640 acres of land. If they refused to become citizens, then they had > to move to Arkansas. My 3rd great grandparents had a great deal of > land in the Farrugut/Turkey Creek area. I can't find any evidence > that this man came from a wealthy family. He left a sizable estate. > I wonder if he could hve gotten some of this land from a father-in-law > as this land could be left to heirs in a will. > Nancy McGInty > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Joyce G. Reece <[email protected]> > wrote: >> The land CESSION would have been the Hiwassee Purchase or the Treaty of >> 1817. This ceeded the land that is the section between the Little >> Tennessee >> River on the north, the big Tennessee on the west, the Hiwassee on the >> south >> and the NC line on the east. The surveyors did not survey the eastern >> line >> correctly and left off several miles on the eastern line so part Monroe >> remained in Cherokee hands until the Removal in 1838. Thus the reason >> for >> the huge archealogical find in the form of Fort Armistead in eastern >> Monroe >> Co. >> >> Joyce Gaston Reece >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Nancy McGinty" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:50 AM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions >> >>> 'Siyo >>> >>> Thanks for the reply, but I may have been asking for the wrong thing. >>> There was an attempt to "civilize" or make citizens of some of the >>> Cherokees in 1817. They had a choice to apply for 640 acres of land >>> in Tennessee, Georgia and maybe Alabama and become US citizens or go >>> to Arkansas. I will go to the National Archives in Georgia next week, >>> but am not quite sure of how to look this up. Do you have any ideas >>> on this? >>> Nancy McG >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> 'siyo, >>>> >>>> http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ >>>> >>>> Sgi, >>>> >>>> Nill >>>> -=- >>>> >>>> Nancy McGinty wrote: >>>>> Can anyone refer me to a place where I might read more about the land >>>>> cessions of 1817. Were any of these lands around Knox county, TN? >>>>> Nancy MCG >>>>> ======*====== >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ======*====== >>>> List archives >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ======*====== >>> List archives >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ======*====== >> List archives >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The story of Fort Armistead has been in several newspapers including the Knoxville Sentinal. The story is this: In 1817 a treaty was signed that ceded land that was, in part, to become McMinn and Monroe counties. The surveyor party was instructed to begin at Jolly's Island (now Hiwassee Island) at the mouth of the Hiwassee River, east to North Carolina state line following the river. When the surveyor party reached the Cherokee village of Savannah, which is where current day hwy 411 crosses the Hiwassee, they stopped at the village to ask for directions. The Ridge, who was named this because of his habit of traveling along a trail that ran the top of these mountains told them a different way to go, which they did. This trail left Savannah went up the end of Starr Mountain at Gee Creek, along the top of the mountain to White Cliff, off the mountain to Rural Vale (all modern day place names), on to the area just near the Unicoi Gap, back up the mountains to the Indian Boundary (now the camping area), off the end of Flats Mtn down to Citico Creek then down this creek to the mouth where it enters the Little Tennessee. This surveyor error left a swath of land that varied in width of apx 8 to 25 miles between the survey line and the NC state line. Because of this many Cherokee families who resided in this area were left where they were until the Removal in 1838. Fort Armistead, which shows on the 1820-30 section map of the Hiwassee District/Monroe County, was a small village and supply point for the Cherokee until the Removal began, then it acted as a gathering point for families headed west. After the Removal the family who owned the land paid little attention to the village and it's future historical significance but did maintain its integrity. Now, within the last 2 years the integrity of the site is still intact and in the hands of the Cherokee National Forest. The site is being guarded with the intensity it deserves and big plans are in the works for it. A visitors center is planned adjacent to the village site. Some excavations are being done but in the most part it is more guarded than anything else. Anyone who enters the area has to be cleared thru security. Chad Smith recently paid a visit to the site. It is said to be the best preserved village of its kind in the world. Thank goodness it is in a place where it will never be flooded by a TVA impoundment like the Overhill Villages often were...such as Chota, Tenasi, Citico and many others. Historians of this area, especially those of us interested in the Cherokee aspect of this areas history have been overjoyed with this find. Monroe County Archivist, Nelle Jo Stakely had a big hand in helping the archeologist do the the historical research on this. I hope I'm not pushing things too much to say that she and I discussed and researched the above stated aspects concerning Fort Armistead and how it all came to be. Joyce Gaston Reece -------------------------------------------------- From: "myra reidy" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:17 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions > > > Would you please tell us more about the "finds" in Monroe County? It > sounds very interesting. > > > > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:43:58 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions >> >> The land CESSION would have been the Hiwassee Purchase or the Treaty of >> 1817. This ceeded the land that is the section between the Little >> Tennessee >> River on the north, the big Tennessee on the west, the Hiwassee on the >> south >> and the NC line on the east. The surveyors did not survey the eastern >> line >> correctly and left off several miles on the eastern line so part Monroe >> remained in Cherokee hands until the Removal in 1838. Thus the reason for >> the huge archealogical find in the form of Fort Armistead in eastern >> Monroe >> Co. >> >> Joyce Gaston Reece >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Nancy McGinty" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:50 AM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions >> >> > 'Siyo >> > >> > Thanks for the reply, but I may have been asking for the wrong thing. >> > There was an attempt to "civilize" or make citizens of some of the >> > Cherokees in 1817. They had a choice to apply for 640 acres of land >> > in Tennessee, Georgia and maybe Alabama and become US citizens or go >> > to Arkansas. I will go to the National Archives in Georgia next week, >> > but am not quite sure of how to look this up. Do you have any ideas >> > on this? >> > Nancy McG >> > >> > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> 'siyo, >> >> >> >> http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ >> >> >> >> Sgi, >> >> >> >> Nill >> >> -=- >> >> >> >> Nancy McGinty wrote: >> >>> Can anyone refer me to a place where I might read more about the land >> >>> cessions of 1817. Were any of these lands around Knox county, TN? >> >>> Nancy MCG >> >>> ======*====== >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ======*====== >> >> List archives >> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >> > ======*====== >> > List archives >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ======*====== >> List archives >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joyce, I was trying to find your address and couldn't put my hands on it. I have written to you before but never thought that I had enough for you to start looking with. I have since found that my 4th great grandmother left her husband and five children in Ashe county, NC and ran off with a mulatto who must have been half Indian. I have just found info on the attempt by the US government in 1817 to make citizens of some Indians, especially the mixed blood by giving them 640 acres of land. If they refused to become citizens, then they had to move to Arkansas. My 3rd great grandparents had a great deal of land in the Farrugut/Turkey Creek area. I can't find any evidence that this man came from a wealthy family. He left a sizable estate. I wonder if he could hve gotten some of this land from a father-in-law as this land could be left to heirs in a will. Nancy McGInty On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Joyce G. Reece <[email protected]> wrote: > The land CESSION would have been the Hiwassee Purchase or the Treaty of > 1817.  This ceeded the land that is the section between the Little Tennessee > River on the north, the big Tennessee on the west, the Hiwassee on the south > and the NC line on the east.  The surveyors did not survey the eastern line > correctly and left off several miles on the eastern line so part Monroe > remained in Cherokee hands until the Removal in 1838.  Thus the reason for > the huge archealogical find in the form of Fort Armistead in eastern Monroe > Co. > > Joyce Gaston Reece > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Nancy McGinty" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:50 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions > >> 'Siyo >> >> Thanks for the reply, but I may have been asking for the wrong thing. >> There was an attempt to "civilize" or make citizens of some of the >> Cherokees in 1817.  They had a choice to apply for 640 acres of land >> in Tennessee, Georgia and maybe Alabama and become US citizens or go >> to Arkansas.  I will go to the National Archives in Georgia next week, >> but am not quite sure of how to look this up.  Do you have any ideas >> on this? >> Nancy McG >> >> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: >>> 'siyo, >>> >>> http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ >>> >>> Sgi, >>> >>> Nill >>> -=- >>> >>> Nancy McGinty wrote: >>>> Can anyone refer me to a place where I might read more about the land >>>> cessions of 1817.  Were any of these lands around Knox county, TN? >>>> Nancy MCG >>>>  ======*====== >>>> >>>> >>>  ======*====== >>> List archives >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ======*====== >> List archives >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >  ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/ Go here. It may help. > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:50:49 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions > > 'Siyo > > Thanks for the reply, but I may have been asking for the wrong thing. > There was an attempt to "civilize" or make citizens of some of the > Cherokees in 1817. They had a choice to apply for 640 acres of land > in Tennessee, Georgia and maybe Alabama and become US citizens or go > to Arkansas. I will go to the National Archives in Georgia next week, > but am not quite sure of how to look this up. Do you have any ideas > on this? > Nancy McG > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: > > 'siyo, > > > > http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ > > > > Sgi, > > > > Nill > > -=- > > > > Nancy McGinty wrote: > >> Can anyone refer me to a place where I might read more about the land > >> cessions of 1817. Were any of these lands around Knox county, TN? > >> Nancy MCG > >> ======*====== > >> > >> > > ======*====== > > List archives > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The land CESSION would have been the Hiwassee Purchase or the Treaty of 1817. This ceeded the land that is the section between the Little Tennessee River on the north, the big Tennessee on the west, the Hiwassee on the south and the NC line on the east. The surveyors did not survey the eastern line correctly and left off several miles on the eastern line so part Monroe remained in Cherokee hands until the Removal in 1838. Thus the reason for the huge archealogical find in the form of Fort Armistead in eastern Monroe Co. Joyce Gaston Reece -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nancy McGinty" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:50 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions > 'Siyo > > Thanks for the reply, but I may have been asking for the wrong thing. > There was an attempt to "civilize" or make citizens of some of the > Cherokees in 1817. They had a choice to apply for 640 acres of land > in Tennessee, Georgia and maybe Alabama and become US citizens or go > to Arkansas. I will go to the National Archives in Georgia next week, > but am not quite sure of how to look this up. Do you have any ideas > on this? > Nancy McG > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: >> 'siyo, >> >> http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ >> >> Sgi, >> >> Nill >> -=- >> >> Nancy McGinty wrote: >>> Can anyone refer me to a place where I might read more about the land >>> cessions of 1817. Were any of these lands around Knox county, TN? >>> Nancy MCG >>> ======*====== >>> >>> >> ======*====== >> List archives >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nancy THe list of reservee's is at www.tngenweb.org. It wasn't a land cession since they were being offered land. The cessions were mostly in the land bordering Cherokee lands at that time. Several were in McMinn, Monroe, Roane...most were in Georgia and Alabama but you can see all that on this list. The list is also on footnote.com in the original image from the microfilm as are many of the agency records of Southwest Point, Hiwassee Garrison and Calhoun Another list is within the American State Papers which you can find at www.rootsweb.com/~tnpolk2 If there is a particular name you are looking for I will look for you Joyce Gaston Reece -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nancy McGinty" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:50 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] land cessions > 'Siyo > > Thanks for the reply, but I may have been asking for the wrong thing. > There was an attempt to "civilize" or make citizens of some of the > Cherokees in 1817. They had a choice to apply for 640 acres of land > in Tennessee, Georgia and maybe Alabama and become US citizens or go > to Arkansas. I will go to the National Archives in Georgia next week, > but am not quite sure of how to look this up. Do you have any ideas > on this? > Nancy McG > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: >> 'siyo, >> >> http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ >> >> Sgi, >> >> Nill >> -=- >> >> Nancy McGinty wrote: >>> Can anyone refer me to a place where I might read more about the land >>> cessions of 1817. Were any of these lands around Knox county, TN? >>> Nancy MCG >>> ======*====== >>> >>> >> ======*====== >> List archives >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

'Siyo Thanks for the reply, but I may have been asking for the wrong thing. There was an attempt to "civilize" or make citizens of some of the Cherokees in 1817. They had a choice to apply for 640 acres of land in Tennessee, Georgia and maybe Alabama and become US citizens or go to Arkansas. I will go to the National Archives in Georgia next week, but am not quite sure of how to look this up. Do you have any ideas on this? Nancy McG On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: > 'siyo, > > http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ > > Sgi, > > Nill > -=- > > Nancy McGinty wrote: >> Can anyone refer me to a place where I might read more about the land >> cessions of 1817.  Were any of these lands around Knox county, TN? >> Nancy MCG >>  ======*====== >> >> >  ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

'siyo, http://www.tngenweb.org/cessions/ Sgi, Nill -=- Nancy McGinty wrote: > Can anyone refer me to a place where I might read more about the land > cessions of 1817. Were any of these lands around Knox county, TN? > Nancy MCG > ======*====== > >

Can anyone refer me to a place where I might read more about the land cessions of 1817. Were any of these lands around Knox county, TN? Nancy MCG

Buffalo Field Campaign Yellowstone Bison Update from the Field February 4, 2010 Buffalo Field Campaign relies on donations from people like you to fund our work to protect the bison. Please contribute today to keep us strong in the field and on the policy front: https://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2426/t/6876/shop/custom.jsp?donate_page_KEY=3647 ------------------------------ ------------------------------ * Update from the Field * IBMP Agencies Hold Secret "Public" Meeting * Good-Bye Tolerance: DOL & Park Service Battle Over Adaptive Management * Quarantine: FWP Decides to Send 88 Yellowstone Buffalo to Ted Turner * Wild Buffalo: What Does this Mean to You? * Last Words * Kill Tally * Important Links ------------------------------ ------------------------------ * Update from the Field Montana's buffalo "hunt" ends at sunset on February 15. All hunters but one have failed to take buffalo, simply because the shaggy giants are not here. Over the weekend, Nez Perce tribal members - who hold treaty rights to hunt buffalo - were in the area, but they had to return home empty-handed because no buffalo were accessible. Temperatures have been unseasonably warm, and snow accumulation relatively minimal, which can ease the buffalo's drive to seek lower elevation habitat. In truth, it is more than likely that buffalo are also still trying to recover from the horrible slaughter during the winter of 2007-2008, when Yellowstone and Montana killed more than 1,600 wild buffalo. Every spring the Montana Department of Livestock leads aggressive management actions that force wild buffalo out of the state, even from areas where there are no cattle. When tribal and state hunters come to Montana hoping--and failing--to find buffalo, the failings of the livestock industry-driven Interagency Bison Management Plan (IBMP) become starkly clear. But things could soon be changing. The Nez Perce, Confederated Salish-Kootenai, and the InterTribal Bison Cooperative are finally active participants in IBMP decision-making, and we expect that their much-needed participation will help guide a more respectful future for wild buffalo. This has the Department of Livestock and their ranching constituency feeling very uncomfortable, to say the least. As you will read below, the Department of Livestock appears to be feeling the coming pressure and is reacting much like a cornered animal, snarling and striking. Hard times are ahead for the buffalo, it seems, but people grow more tired of the cattle industry's hegemony and the buffalo's champions are gaining strength and numbers. They say the darkest time is just before the dawn, and so it may come to pass this season. Rest assured that BFC together with tribes and other bison advocates are going to turn the dark into light and realize some positive change. ------------------------------ * IBMP Agencies Hold Secret "Public" Meeting BFC recognizes serious flaws in the public process, but we take every opportunity to actively engage and make every attempt to attend all public meetings that affect the Yellowstone buffalo population. BFC has never missed an Interagency Bison Management Plan (IBMP) meeting ... until this week. We were shocked to learn that the Interagency Bison Management Plan partners held a secret "public" meeting on Tuesday, February 2nd, with agenda items up for discussion that affect the buffalo and BFC greatly. Interestingly, none of the regular participants at these meetings were aware that it was taking place. Nor was the press. Montana's Madison and Park County commissioners, however, were invited to the meeting, yet somehow it was kept hidden from the general public until after it was underway. The Montana Department of Livestock is currently the lead agency responsible for organizing meetings, and they failed to adequately notify the public that this meeting was happening, which violates Montana's Open Meeting Law. It also goes against the recommendations from the U.S. Congress General Accountability Office, who suggested IBMP partners hold meetings in public in order to be transparent and accountable. BFC is taking action to ensure that these secret "public" meetings never happen again. Clearly the DOL didn't want BFC or any of the buffalo's strong allies to attend, and we now know why: ------------------------------ * Good-Bye Tolerance: DOL & Park Service Battle Over Adaptive Management While we may have been intentionally excluded from attending the meeting, BFC was on the phone with the Department of Livestock (DOL) and Yellowstone National Park officials and we've learned that extreme changes are being planned by the DOL. At this IBMP "public" meeting on February 2, Yellowstone National Park and Gallatin National Forest went head-to-head with the Montana Department of Livestock (DOL) and consensus among the agencies was thrown out the window. The DOL "intends to make changes," huge, backwards changes and strike out at the buffalo by removing the minimal tolerance all IBMP partners agreed to just last winter. According to Montana State Vet Marty Zaluski, who represents the DOL, "last year's Adaptive Management Changes won't be repeated." The DOL intends to withdraw the minimal tolerance all IBMP agencies agreed to in December 2008 http://ibmp.info/20081217.php. Under this Adaptive Management Plan, last spring unlimited numbers of buffalo were allowed to access public lands habitat on cattle-free Horse Butte until May 15, while smaller numbers of buffalo were given some access to critical winter range and spring calving grounds along the south side regions of the Madison River (Madison Arm). It was really the least the agencies could do, but still represented a few months of respite for the buffalo. Apparently, the DOL felt that the buffalo were afforded too much "tolerance" last year, and now they want to take it all back. Montana lost its brucellosis-free status, and it had nothing to do with the buffalo, so why do they insist on taking these drastic actions against them when the IBMP is clearly failing on both of its goals: to maintain a viable free-ranging population of bison and to protect Montana's brucellosis-free status? The specifics of DOL's intended actions this coming season are still unclear, but we do know that they want to begin hazing and capturing buffalo if more than 100 migrate out of the Park's western boundaries between February 15 and April 10. This means that right after the hunt, and while tribal treaty hunts are still underway, we could see disgusting repeats of DOL actions from winters past, where agents on snowmobiles chase buffalo through deep snow, forcing them to use energy stores that they need to survive the winter. The DOL also said they will seek to erect the Horse Butte buffalo trap, and they fully intend to slaughter. When BFC asked if IBMP partners would need to come to consensus on these drastic management changes, Marty Zaluski said no. Montana, apparently, can do whatever it wants; as horrible as the IBMP is, the DOL can make things worse. But, if that's the path they choose, it will be all on Montana, especially if the Park Service and Forest Service have the courage to uphold their opposition. At this secret "public" meeting, like at the November IBMP public meeting http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/media/update0910/111909.html, tribal representatives, Gallatin National Forest and Yellowstone National Park disagreed with the DOL's stringent and backwards suggestions. Yellowstone stated that they feel strongly about continuing operations as outlined in the Adaptive Management Plan, and will continue to seek more tolerance for buffalo outside Yellowstone's boundaries. Tribes, Gallatin NF and Yellowstone NP all agreed that they need more time with the existing Adaptive Management Plan to evaluate its effectiveness before proposing any amendments to it. You can read through a series of interesting documents, including powerful letters from Yellowstone National Park and the InterTribal Bison Cooperative here http://ibmp.info/20100202.php. These renegade actions by the DOL could initiate the dissolving of the Interagency Bison Management Plan. We still don't know if Yellowstone and Gallatin will refuse to assist the DOL, but they should be encouraged to refrain from participating. Please take a minute to contact Yellowstone Superintendent Suzanne Lewis [email protected] and Gallatin National Forest Supervisor Mary Ericson [email protected] and thank them for taking a stand for the buffalo and encourage them to drop out of the failing Interagency Bison Management Plan! BFC will be there do document and challenge the DOL's devolution every step of the way, and we will continue to show the world what these cowboys are doing to the last wild population of American buffalo. These actions by the DOL demonstrate that they know their time harassing and killing buffalo is coming to an end. ------------------------------ * Quarantine: FWP Decides to Send 88 Yellowstone Buffalo to Turner It is worse than we feared: Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks has decided to send all 88 quarantined Yellowstone buffalo to the private lands of billionaire Ted Turner. Turner will get to keep 75% of the Yellowstone buffalo's offspring for his commercial gains. Montana has just set a horrible precedent of privatizing public wildlife and they have shown great disregard to Native American tribes who for years have wanted to bring the buffalo home. You can read BFC's press release here http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/media/press0910/pressreleases0910/020210.html. You can read FWP's decison notice here http://fwp.mt.gov/news/publicnotices/notice.html?action=getPublicNotice&id=2286. ------------------------------ * Wild Buffalo: What Does this Mean to You? This is a question that is going to be asked throughout Montana over the next few years, and we want to hear what you think. What does WILD buffalo, truly free-living wild buffalo, mean to you? How do you see their return taking shape on the landscape? What challenges can you think of, and the ways to overcome them? Think big, think practical, dream the buffalo back. Let us know ~ send your thoughts to [email protected] ------------------------------ * Last Words Tell the bison not to go where they have always been, instruct the elephants to read and yield their ancient memories of where the water is. Force wolves and bears to learn the boundaries that have never been- the ink that lies unseeable between this tree, that blade of grass. Teach them all to read the maps that are invisible. Make them know what is not real, does not exist to moon or stars, and stubborn as they are kill them for not learning what we will not share. ...for the bison and wolves of the Yellowstone ecosystem and Northern Rockies, for the trees and plants and rocks, for the elephants and orangutans, for the bees and the gorillas, the butterflies and birds, for the voles and nematodes, for the frogs and salamanders and the bats, for the otters, dolphins, whales, and polar bears, for the turtles and the coral and the krill, for the plankton and the leopard, for the beetles and the worms, for the waters, earth, and air... (© February 3, 2010 Carol Snyder Halberstadt Do you have submissions for Last Words? Send them to [email protected] Thank you all for the poems, songs and stories you have been sending; you'll see them here! ------------------------------ * Kill Tally AMERICAN BISON ELIMINATED from the last wild population in the U.S. 2009-2010 Total: 1 2009-2010 Slaughter: 0 2009-2010 Hunt: 1 2009-2010 Quarantine: 0 2009-2010 Shot by Agents: 0 2009-2010 Highway Mortality: 0 2008-2009 Total: 22 2007-2008 Total: 1,631 Total Since 2000: 3,703* *includes lethal government action, quarantine, hunts, highway mortalities ------------------------------ Media & Outreach Buffalo Field Campaign P.O. 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Buffalo Field Campaign Yellowstone Bison Update from the Field January 28, 2010 ------------------------------ ------------------------------ * Colorado Ski Trip Auction Ends Tomorrow * Update from the Field * High Quality Photos Needed for Yellowstone Buffalo Calendar * Support a Wish: BFC Needs a New Stove * Buffalo in the News * Last Words ~ Howard Zinn * Kill Tally * Important Links ------------------------------ ------------------------------ * Colorado Ski Trip Auction Ends Tomorrow You only have one day left to bid on this amazing Crested Butte vacation. The winner will receive six nights of lodging in a Gold-Plus rated, four-bedroom, 3-bath condominium 500 yards from the base of Crested Butte's Silver Queen ski lift, eight ski lift tickets courtesy of Crested Butte Mountain Resort, and more than $700 dollars worth of ski clothing from Patagonia. 100 percent of the proceeds will go directly to the front-lines work of Buffalo Field Campaign, the only group working in the field and on the policy front to permanently protect the Yellowstone bison, America's only continuously wild population. Retail value of this package is approximately $6,000. For more information, please visit: http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/auctions/crestedbutte.html This auction closes on Friday, January 29, 2010. ------------------------------ * Update from the Field Volunteers have been pouring in from across the country. People are coming from a diversity of landscapes and backgrounds, all with the common goal of helping America's last wild population of buffalo. It is encouraging for us to continuously meet new people who are inspired by the buffalo and learn what called them, some traveling thousands of miles for the chance to spend even a few short weeks with us and the buffalo. Thankfully, no buffalo are currently in harms way. This has allowed us to take the necessary time to thoroughly introduce all these enthusiastic new volunteers to the landscape and field operations, before the insanity of government management actions occur. These quiet days also enable us to devote time to other projects that help buffalo, like tearing down barbed wire fence in buffalo migration corridors. The absence of buffalo leaves a hole in our hearts. Even those who have yet to spend time with buffalo in the field can feel them missing, and crave their presence on the landscape. Buffalo have a way of touching people even when they are not around, and when when they do begin their migration, the awe of their powerful presence will be a powerful awakening to us all, and volunteers will be ready to do the work necessary to defend them and their right to roam the lands that are their birthright. Thank you BFC supporters everywhere for enabling us to be here on the front lines and in the policy arena working in defense of America's last wild buffalo! https://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2426/images/ThankYou.jpg Roam Free! ~Stephany ------------------------------ * High Quality Photos Needed for Yellowstone Buffalo Calendar Thank you to everyone who has sent us Yellowstone buffalo photos for consideration in the first-ever BFC buffalo calendar. It has been an absolute pleasure to see your pictures! We still need high-quality Yellowstone buffalo photos, so if you have some you'd like to share, or know of photographers who have been to Yellowstone and spent time with the buffalo, please get in touch. The Yellowstone buffalo calendar will become available before the 2011 calendar year, and will focus on the positive aspects of buffalo life. If your photos are chosen for use in the calendar, you will, of course, be given full credit. Photo submission guidelines: Calendar photos must be stellar! We need high-quality digital photos at 300dpi, high resolution JPEG or TIFF files. Photos should be in color. We cannot accept "photoshopped", scanned, web camera, or photos taken from a web site. There should not be any dates or text of any kind visible on the photos. If you have photos that meet these requirements and you're willing to let us submit them for inclusion in the calendar, please send them to Stephany at [email protected] You may also send a CD of photos to Stephany/Buffalo Calendar, P.O. Box 957, West Yellowstone, Montana 59758. We can also send you a more detailed document on photo submission guidelines required by the calendar's publisher, so just email for a copy if you intend to submit photos. ------------------------------ * Support a Wish: BFC Kitchen Needs a New Stove The BFC kitchen is in need of a new stove! Our current oven has been on the fritz for a few years now and we are looking to replace it before it finally gives up the ghost. We are looking for a commercial grade 6-burner gas range with a large capacity oven. During our main season we feed anywhere from 15-40 volunteers three meals a day seven days a week, so a heavy duty, reliable range is one of our most important tools at camp. If you have this kind of a range, or know someone who does, and would like to donate it to the BFC, or if you would like to help us purchase a new one, please call our kitchen coordinator, Brandy, at 406-646-0070. Thank you! Please visit BFC's Wish List to find out about other items we need. All donations - monetary and in-kind - are tax deductible. http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/aboutus/wishlist.html ------------------------------ * Buffalo in the News BFC lends a hand to free the land West Yellowstone News, January 26, 2010 http://westyellowstonenews.com/articles/2010/01/26/news/news5.txt State vet's assurance should calm ranchers Casper Star Tribune, January 26, 2010 http://www.trib.com/news/opinion/editorial/article_5163d258-ee8f-5c96-b049-8b9cf18df486.html Grass-fed beef won't save the planet New West, January 22, 2010 http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/grass_fed_beef_wont_save_the_planet/C564/L564/ Bison, brucellosis and the road to recovery Bozeman Daily Chronicle, January 17, 2010 http://bozemandailychronicle.com/articles/2010/01/17/news/000bison.txt OPINION: Giving bison to Turner isn't legal Casper Star-Tribune, January 10, 2010 http://trib.com/news/opinion/forums/article_4568d45c-34a7-5d54-b2dc-dd63ed69d62d.html Wildlife group explains position Casper Star-Tribune, January 10, 2010 http://www.trib.com/news/opinion/mailbag/article_d915671d-b626-59c1-bba2-9b2d9884bfaf.html ------------------------------ * Last Words In honor of Howard Zinn, who passed away last night: "We don't have to engage in grand, heroic actions to participate in the process of change. Small acts, when multiplied by millions of people, can transform the world." "Any humane and reasonable person must conclude that if the ends, however desireable, are uncertain and the means are horrible and certain, these means must not be employed." "To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness. What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives. If we see only the worst, it destroys our capacity to do something. If we remember those times and places-and there are so many-where people have behaved magnificently, this gives us the energy to act, and at least the possibility of sending this spinning top of a world in a different direction. And if we do act, in however small a way, we don't have to wait for some grand utopian future. The future is an infinite succession of presents, and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory." "Historically, the most terrible things - war, genocide, and slavery - have resulted not from disobedience, but from obedience." "Protest beyond the law is not a departure from democracy; it is absolutely essential to it. " "The challenge remains. On the other side are formidable forces: money, political power, the major media. On our side are the people of the world and a power greater than money or weapons: the truth. Truth has a power of its own. Art has a power of its own. That age-old lesson - that everything we do matters - is the meaning of the people's struggle here in the United States and everywhere. A poem can inspire a movement. A pamphlet can spark a revolution. 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There are those of us who know within our soul and the small amount of exposure we have had that our heritage is native but we have never been the taught the customs or true history. For those of us who want to know due to great grandparents and grandparents who whispered their heritage but did not openly talk, we have to listen to learn. The steps will come and when it is time to speak we can and will. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of alice smith Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? I'm not a talker but a listener ??? --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Danm <[email protected]> wrote: From: Danm <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:32 AM A question is the beginning of teaching. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Hauck" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? >I am a listener to learn; just talk so I can learn!  Thanks, > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Danm > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? > > Just wondering what is going on with SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many quiet members ? > Dont you all want to talk to each other ? > Dan M > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2644 - Release Date: 01/25/10 > 01:36:00 > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2646 - Release Date: 01/26/10 01:46:00

Hello Dan, I just want to let you know I am still around and read all the posts. I may not answer but I am here and if you need me just ask. I have been busy with the Boyscouts in making Regalia for the Order of the Arrow and also taking BSA Courses. If you need any help with questions please let me know, I still do Genealogy work. Garland Walker Treasure you relationships, not your possessions --- [email protected] wrote: From: "Danm" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:32:20 -0800 A question is the beginning of teaching. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Hauck" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? >I am a listener to learn; just talk so I can learn! Thanks, > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Danm > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? > > Just wondering what is going on with SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many quiet members ? > Dont you all want to talk to each other ? > Dan M > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2644 - Release Date: 01/25/10 > 01:36:00 > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________________________ Get Your Free Email at www.NativeWeb.net, Resources for Indigenous Cultures around the World

Good morning Dan It is nice to see a little activity here. Although I live in the Northeast, I have many relatives both and off the reservation in North Carolina. Recently we were discussing when the American Indian actually became a citizen of the United States. I have always been told it happened shortly after WW I. Now my question becomes when did it actually happen and why did it take so long ? Thanks, William T. -----Original Message----- From: Danm <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Jan 25, 2010 4:28 pm Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? Just wondering what is going on with SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many quiet members ? ont you all want to talk to each other ? an M ======*====== ist archives ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Dear Virginia in Seattle... here is another good group to invite contacts: allnationstribesandtongues.ning.com Gary in China. It is an axiom in political science that, unless a people are educated and enlightened, it is idle to expect the continuance of civil liberty or the capacity for self-government. -Declaration of Independence of the Republic of Texas --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Virginia <[email protected]> wrote: From: Virginia <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:28 AM I have been so very busy, I haven't even had a chance to read my email lately.  I am hoping that things will quiet down somewhat and I will have more time ......then I will think of a question to ask! Oh!  How are you, Dan? Virginia in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danm" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? > A question is the beginning of teaching. > Dan M > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra Hauck" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:10 PM > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? > > > >I am a listener to learn; just talk so I can learn!  Thanks, > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of Danm > > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:28 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? > > > > Just wondering what is going on with SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many quiet members ? > > Dont you all want to talk to each other ? > > Dan M > > ======*====== > > List archives > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2644 - Release Date: 01/25/10 > > 01:36:00 > > > > ======*====== > > List archives > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >  ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2644 - Release Date: 01/25/10 07:36:00 ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been so very busy, I haven't even had a chance to read my email lately. I am hoping that things will quiet down somewhat and I will have more time ......then I will think of a question to ask! Oh! How are you, Dan? Virginia in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danm" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? > A question is the beginning of teaching. > Dan M > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra Hauck" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:10 PM > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? > > > >I am a listener to learn; just talk so I can learn! Thanks, > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of Danm > > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:28 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? > > > > Just wondering what is going on with SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many quiet members ? > > Dont you all want to talk to each other ? > > Dan M > > ======*====== > > List archives > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2644 - Release Date: 01/25/10 > > 01:36:00 > > > > ======*====== > > List archives > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2644 - Release Date: 01/25/10 07:36:00

I'm not a talker but a listener ??? --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Danm <[email protected]> wrote: From: Danm <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:32 AM A question is the beginning of teaching. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Hauck" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? >I am a listener to learn; just talk so I can learn!  Thanks, > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Danm > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] whats going on in your world ? > > Just wondering what is going on with SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many quiet members ? > Dont you all want to talk to each other ? > Dan M > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2644 - Release Date: 01/25/10 > 01:36:00 > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message