That looked like a direct question to me, http://www.native-american-market.com/color_symbolism.html here is a place to start since this is a mixed list, I sent a site with more than one answer. Out of a few thousand on the net lol. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] question > Can you be more specific? > > EArthfeather > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alli<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:10 PM > Subject: [Cherokee Circle] question > > > Does anyone know the colors that symbolizes or stood for the Cherokee > People? > ======*====== > List archives > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can you be more specific? EArthfeather ----- Original Message ----- From: Alli<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:10 PM Subject: [Cherokee Circle] question Does anyone know the colors that symbolizes or stood for the Cherokee People? ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: Equine Welfare Alliance To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:55 PM Subject: EWA Alert | Pine Ridge Injunction Received! Having trouble viewing this email? Click here Pine Ridge Update I just received the following press release from Keith Rabin with a new statement from David Swallow, Jr.. Statement by David Swallow, Jr., Wowitan Yuha Mani Teton Lakota Spiritual Leader, Sun dance Chief of the Medicine Wheel Sun dance, and a Headman of the Lakota Nation Band of Wana Way Gu (Broken Bow) *For Immediate Release Statement Date; May 8th 2010 Transcribed To and edited by Keith Rabin Hau, Mitakuyapi Na Mita Kola. Mitakuyapi Sunka Wakan Oyate Lakota Nation, Pine Ridge Reservation, South Dakota The Lakota people of Pine Ridge South Dakota continue their struggle to protect their Sacred Horses from the Oglala Sioux Tribal Council and the Parks and Recreation Department. Since June 2009, the Oglala Sioux Tribal Council and the Parks and Recreation (OSTPR) have been removing horses owned by the Lakota People of Pine Ridge Reservation, South Dakota without permission, without notice and without any warrant issued or receipt. Despite repeated efforts, continued obstacles have made it impossible for the Lakota People to get their horses back. The horses were to be delivered to the St. Onge Livestock Company LTD by the OSTPR to be auctioned off on Sunday, 5/9/10 as loose horses. In A statement from Elder and Spiritual leader David Swallow, on May 7, 2010, based on the grounds of trespassing on private property, a temporary injunction was granted by the Tribal Court to stop the "Oglala Sioux Tribe "Parks and Recreation Department" from auctioning off these horses on 5/9/10 [Mothers Day]. (Further details regarding the injunction to follow early next week). The " Mitakuyapi Sunka Wakan Oyate " is working to establish a designated fund where supporters will be able to donate funds to help return these Sacred horses to the safety and care of The People. Supporters are encouraged not to send any money at this time. Please watch for updates as to how to help. Mitakuyapi Sunka Wakan Oyate (Relatives of the Sacred Horses) Lakota Nation, Pine Ridge Reservation, South Dakota Our Horses are sacred to us and they are our relatives. We are family and we take care of each other and help each other in times of need. That is the Lakota way. ## Additional Information We understand that Usha Rao has secured ownership of 16 horses and 2 donkeys. They are back on the reservation and Usha expects to have pictures tomorrow. Usha also expects the letter of ownership from Oglala Sioux Parks and Recreation Authority on Monday. It appears as though they are looking for a new home with adopters or a rescue for this group of horses. We will have information on how to adopt these horses as soon as we have pictures and a contact for you to pass on to your groups. We will provide information on the other horses as it becomes available. Forward email This email was sent to [email protected] by [email protected] Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribeT | Privacy Policy. Email Marketing by Equine Welfare Alliance | 1201 Rhodes Lane | Naperville | IL | 60540

Does anyone know the colors that symbolizes or stood for the Cherokee People?

Buffalo Field Campaign Yellowstone Bison Update from the Field May 6, 2010 ------------------------------ ------------------------------ * Perseverance Despite Overwhelming Odds ~ Roman Sanchez * Update from the Field: Two Bulls Shot, Hazing Begins * NEW VIDEO & TAKE ACTION: APHIS Bull Study * BFC Looking for Summer Education Volunteers * Last Words * Kill Tally * Useful Links ------------------------------ * Perseverance Despite Overwhelming Odds It is hard to believe that a decade has now passed since my family and I first planted our feet along the north bluffs of the Madison River-that migratory corridor that has seen generations of buffalo walk to find the first green life-giving shoots, and to birth the next generation of wild! And I always find myself marveling as if I were a child again seeing this beauty for the first time. I am always amazed at how my inner self responds to the intense beauty of these riverbanks that continue to host the great choir of bird song, and that big sky so infinite above the incredible abundance below it. It is in our natural world where I feel most alive, yet here along these banks it goes far beyond that. It is these moments before any "management plan" has the opportunity to contaminate that we can feel all the possibility of how a landscape and ourselves are supposed to be. I feel privileged as I walk within this wildness. I also feel certain in saying that more of us than we suspect are screaming for this awareness that infuses our beings when we are immersed in such beauty. And so we find ourselves here-not only standing with the buffalo, but standing with the landscape that has so captured our imaginations and souls with its infinite beauty and we say ENOUGH! This is a battle that has been waged for more than a century now!!! In 1881 General Phil Sheridan said "If I could learn that every Buffalo in the Northern herd were killed I would be glad. The destruction of this herd would do more to keep the Indians quiet than anything else that could happen." This week we saw the arrival of ATV's, "management" men and women on horses, (PHOTO) SUVs and the ever disruptive helicopter as the "management plan" continues to spend tax-dollars in an attempt to stop the buffalo. In an attempt to essentially "quiet" the Wild! Almost 120 years later the buffalo continue to show us the true meaning of perseverance despite overwhelming odds. It is this spirit that continues to inspire me-and this is why my family will continue to stand with this beauty; this is why BFC will continue to be the eyes and the voice for these sacred animals; this is why we need all of those who have tasted and felt this power to stand up and say "YA BASTA"-ENOUGH! http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/actnow/politicians.html For the wild, ~ Roman ------------------------------ * Update from the Field - Two Bulls Shot, Hazing Begins It has been a very difficult week for the buffalo. APHIS's study has resulted in the deaths of two bulls, and hazing has begun in earnest. This Monday, the USDA's Animal & Plant Health Inspection Service's (APHIS's) Dr. Ryan Clarke and Becky Frey ) returned to the West Yellowstone area, seeking more bulls to target in their invasive study http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2426/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2676. It seems, however, that luck of the wind and weather was on the buffalo's side, and APHIS also didn't enjoy being under the watchful eye of BFC volunteers. APHIS finally left the area on Tuesday without harming any bulls here this week. However, APHIS went back to the Gardiner area, north of Yellowstone, where they molested two bulls. After the bulls are drugged, and their semen is stolen by APHIS, they use a reversal agent - Naltrexone - to wake them up. This drug causes anger, anxiety and excitement as we have reported. These two bulls woke up extremely upset, headed north to Yankee Jim Canyon - a "drop dead zone" for buffalo under the Interagency Bison Management Plan. Yellowstone National Park attempted to haze the bulls back towards the Park, but were unsuccessful because the drugs had made them so agitated. The Montana Department of Livestock showed up later to haze the bulls, but they also gave up and the decision was made to shoot them. APHIS is ultimately responsible for their deaths and they are lost to the world forever. APHIS has totally wasted these buffalo; due to the drugs they use, their flesh cannot even be consumed by humans or animals. Please see below for a new BFC video on the APHIS study, more info, and contact information to get them to stop! Hazing activities resumed around West Yellowstone on Tuesday. The Montana Department of Livestock (DOL) and an agent from Yellowstone National Park hazed a mixed family group of buffalo - including two newborn calves - down highway 287. During the haze, a bull that was understandably upset took his frustration out on a calf, flipping the little thing over his six-foot tall body. Immediately following that haze, four DOL agents hazed a group of eight bull buffalo off of land near the Duck Creek trap, into Yellowstone. Later that day, we watched as the bulls returned to that land and surrounded the Koelzer house that the agents use for their Western Boundary Operations. Persistence! Resistance! Endurance! On Wednesday, there was a much larger-scale hazing operation along the south side of the Madison River, as Roman reported above. About 100 buffalo had been on or near an unoccupied cattle ranch - which is surrounded by Gallatin National Forest and within the buffalo's migration corridor, but forbidden for them to access even though no cattle are present. The DOL, Yellowstone National Park, Gallatin National Forest, Gallatin County Sheriff - and for the first time APHIS (Becky Frey) - all participated. Donning their cowboy attire they used horses and helicopter to push buffalo through barbed wire fence, marshy willow areas, and thick forest. Close to a third of the buffalo caught in the haze were newborn calves. Agents were out again today to push more buffalo off of their chosen ground. Interestingly, save for the bulls near Duck Creek, none of these hazing operations forced buffalo all the way into Yellowstone. We have been told by Yellowstone National Park officials that the Park has not had significant green-up yet, so they have asked that the DOL wait. But they won't wait long. We anticipate that the so-called big push will commence next week and all the buffalo that are in Montana will be aggressively chased deep into Yellowstone. Calves and pregnant mothers, and all other buffalo, will be run for many long miles off of the lands that are their birthright. These efforts - paid for with U.S. tax dollars - are undertaken to protect the selfish interests of a couple private cattle ranchers even though no cattle are presently in the area. While these unjustified actions are taken against native wild buffalo year after year, we are seeing changes in attitudes - in some government agencies as well as local citizenry - that will ultimately bring about the end of such mistreatment. It is your support that allows us to be here with the buffalo, and gives us the ability to stand witness and show the world what is happening. Endless pressure, endlessly applied! ROAM FREE! ------------------------------ * NEW VIDEO & TAKE ACTION: APHIS Bull Study Thirty nine bull buffalo have been targeted in APHIS's study. Two of these buffalo were shot dead on Tuesday, hours after APHIS "studied" them (see above). Buffalo Field Campaign's Mike and Tony have created a new video http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org to show you what APHIS has been putting these bulls through. It is a stark display of abuse, totally unnecessary and the study's results will not benefit wild bison in any way. Because of the tragic incident that caused the two bulls in Gardiner to be shot, and other serious concerns about how the drugs are affecting bull buffalo behavior which BFC has documented, it is possible that IBMP agencies will press for the study to be over. There are obvious concerns about how the drugs APHIS is using is unnecessarily causing aggression in the bulls. Further, BFC has witnessed that bulls who were in family or bull groups have not returned to those groups after being victimized by APHIS. The bulls also seem clearly humiliated and atypically fearful, as the photo of this young bull hiding from us indicates https://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2426/images/Young%20Bull%20APHIS%20Humiliated_seay.jpg *Please contact the lead participants in this APHIS bull bison study and tell them to stop molesting bull bison!* 1. Dr. Ryan Clarke: [email protected] / 406-388-5162 2. Becky Frey, Dr. Clark's Assistant: [email protected] / 406-522-7770 3. Continue contacting APHIS Veterinary Services urging them to cease this study! http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2426/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2676 Please share BFC's new video and other BFC footage posted on YouTube with everyone you know to help raise awareness and defend the last wild buffalo! Our YouTube posted videos can be found here http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=buffalo+field+campaign&aq=f Thank you! ------------------------------ * BFC Looking for Summer Education Volunteers Buffalo Field Campaign still has a few openings for summer education and outreach volunteers. If you can commit to spending three weeks with us, most of which will be spent inside Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks, to help educate Park visitors about what's happening to America's last wild buffalo, please get in touch! Drop a line to [email protected] or call 406-646-0070 with questions or to apply. Thank you! ------------------------------ * Last Words "In wildness is the preservation of the world." ~ Henry David Thoreau, 1817-1862 Do you have submissions for Last Words? Send them to [email protected] Thank you all for the poems, songs and stories you have been sending; you'll see them here! ------------------------------ * Kill Tally AMERICAN BUFFALO ELIMINATED from the last wild population in the U.S. 2009-2010 Total: 6 2009-2010 Slaughter: 0 2009-2010 Hunt: 4 2009-2010 Quarantine: 0 2009-2010 Shot by Agents: 2* 2009-2010 Highway Mortality: 0 *Two bulls were shot by DOL 5/4/10 and had been drugged by APHIS earlier the same day. 2008-2009 Total: 22 2007-2008 Total: 1,631 Total Since 2000: 3,706* *includes lethal government action, quarantine, hunts, highway mortality ----------------------------- Media & Outreach Buffalo Field Campaign P.O. Box 957 West Yellowstone, MT 59758 406-646-0070 [email protected] http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org BFC is the only group working in the field every day in defense of the last wild buffalo population in the U.S. KEEP BFC ON THE FRONTLINES WITH A TAX DEDUCTIBLE CONTRIBUTION TODAY https://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2426/t/6876/shop/custom.jsp?donate_page_KEY=3647 Join Buffalo Field Campaign -- It's Free! http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2426/t/6876/signUp.jsp?key=3378 Tell-a-Friend: http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2426/tellafriend.jsp?tell_a_friend_KEY=3835 Take Action! http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2426/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=26453 Unsubscribe http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2426/t/7926/p/salsa/supporter/unsubscribe/public/?unsubscribe_page_KEY=42

Please move the DNA to [email protected] as per request. thanks Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Strain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] New Serious Cherakee Member Ok~~~could a person have the Mt DNA done, & find out Native American ancestry through the maternal lines? Or~~would it HAVE to be through the male DNA ? Thanks Jean Don't tell GOD how great your STORM is, tell the STORM how great your GOD is! "Enjoy the little things. One day you may look back and realize they were the big things" --- On Wed, 5/5/10, DanM. <[email protected]> wrote: From: DanM. <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] New Serious Cherakee Member To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 11:37 AM DNA. We also have To subscribe to the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Helps to join each list to keep topics on track to the lists ;) also note the subject line was miss spelled. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Harvel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] New Serious Cherakee Member > Hello Nancy > I think I am part of this club of individuals whose heritage has been > hidden. I have heard about different DNA organizations and the kind of > services they offer, but it sounds like Japanese sometimes. Can you tell > me what company you used for your DNA research? I am very interested in > learning more about my native american background. Thank you for whatever > help you can give me. > -- <snip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ok~~~could a person have the Mt DNA done, & find out Native American ancestry through the maternal lines? Or~~would it HAVE to be through the male DNA ? Thanks              Jean Don't tell GOD how great your STORM is, tell the STORM how great your GOD is! "Enjoy the little things. One day you may look back and realize they were the big things" --- On Wed, 5/5/10, DanM. <[email protected]> wrote: From: DanM. <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] New Serious Cherakee Member To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 11:37 AM DNA. We also have To subscribe to the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Helps to join each list to keep topics on track to the lists ;) also note the subject line was miss spelled. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Harvel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] New Serious Cherakee Member > Hello Nancy > I think I am part of this club of individuals whose heritage has been > hidden. I have heard about different DNA organizations and the kind of > services they offer, but it sounds like Japanese sometimes. Can you tell > me what company you used for your DNA research? I am very interested in > learning more about my native american background. Thank you for whatever > help you can give me. > -- <snip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

DNA. We also have To subscribe to the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Helps to join each list to keep topics on track to the lists ;) also note the subject line was miss spelled. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Harvel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] New Serious Cherakee Member > Hello Nancy > I think I am part of this club of individuals whose heritage has been > hidden. I have heard about different DNA organizations and the kind of > services they offer, but it sounds like Japanese sometimes. Can you tell > me what company you used for your DNA research? I am very interested in > learning more about my native american background. Thank you for whatever > help you can give me. > -- <snip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Just so you know, I am learning from all the input and all the stories that are no longer being posted. But you know what, I have saved every one of them! Also all the information and I will start using it! This is a fantastic connection for us and I appreciate all the input tremendously--I am finding that I come from a very generous family of like-kind who enjoy sharing their knowledge and the desire to know their heritage! It is absolutely, positively wonderful to even be able to touch the tip of the forest! Thanks to all of you and please keep doing it for 'us poor innocents' for a short time here! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Cherokee Circle and CherokeeGene This group is for learning about the Cherokee, the people, the things they did, the conversations of the past and present. No controversial topics please. [email protected] is the genealogy list. It was started to help keep the chatter and genealogy seperate and help the people work as a group. Dan M ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2854 - Release Date: 05/04/10 13:27:00

My email address is [email protected] Please email me and I will help you in any way that I can. Nancy McG On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Henry Harvel <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Nancy > I think I am part of this club of individuals whose heritage has been hidden. I have heard about different DNA organizations and the kind of services they offer, but it sounds like Japanese sometimes. Can you tell me what company you used for your DNA research? I am very interested in learning more about my native american background. Thank you for whatever help you can give me. > -- > > Henry Harvel > Collections Billing Specialist > Oneida Behavioral Health Center > 2640 West Point Rd > Green Bay, WI 54304 > Telephone: (920)-490-3874 > Fax: (920)-490-3845 > > >>>> On 5/3/2010 at 6:25 PM, in message > <[email protected]>, Nancy McGinty > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Barbara, I am like you and my heritage was hidden.  A few weeks before >> my mother died, we sent her DNA sample for analysis.  Just days before >> she died, it came back as European and Native American.  This >> motivated me to look harder for the link, and I found it with her 3rd >> great grandmother being the daughter of a white woman and a Cherokee. >> Nancy McG >> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:00 PM, BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Good Morning >>> >>> One of the first things that I do when I join a hew group, is browse through >> the archives. Which I did. I already belong to several Cherokee groups. >>> >>> I am one of those whose heritage was hidden. But I felt it. And when my >> mother died, I went on a hunt. Within two days the doors were open. The first >> thing I learned was my HOUSE linage goes all the way back to the Delaware >> Lenni-Lenape, Chief Big Thunder and Bright Lightning.And COLEMAN etc. >>> >>> The second important thing I learned, was my grandfather, ROBERT LEE GORDON, >> was born at Gordonsville VA , 1887. He states in Documentation," his people >> are from Virginia" >>> >>> The third thing I learned was my other grandparents' gramdparents Edmonds >> and Alderman,  are found at Shawnee Salt Lick Ohio.adjacent to TECSUMSEH's >> road. Everyone on the census sheet is from MurderKillHundred, Kent County, >> Delaware. >>> >>> Since those discoveries, I have become a serious Researcher, Writer and >> Genealogist. >>> Along the way I have accumulated a Elder/Mentor, who also is >> Cherokee-Lenni-Lenape, who prefers to remain anonymous to outsiders. >>> >>> Because of my in depth research I am led to believe that my grandfather may >> be the illegedimate grandson of General Robert E Lee, based on General and >> Governor of Georgia, John B Gordon's "memoirs" >>> >>> My grandfather was the son of REBECCA BYRD TALBOT AND O B ( BYRD) GORDON. >> tHE "O" is Odin, a nick name BUT I BELIEVE HE WAS,  : JAMES B GORDON of South >> Dakota. >>> >>>  I have researched it all within great depth. I have read many documents >> and many OLD books. I have learned of the Georgia "Gordons" who were cousins >> to Robert E Lee. I know that the Great Chickamauga Battle ( 160,000 men) took >> place on my relative's property, the Lee & Gordon Mills on the ChicKamouga >> Creek. >>> >>> My House relative, John Tippy HOUSE ( Haus 1660)  made it down to North >> Carolina and married Lydia Ann BENGE. His grandson is JAMES HOUSE who went to >> Montana. My great grandfather was James A HOUSE of Illinois and Montana, >> where my father was born. ALFRED LEE GORDON >>> >>> When my grandfather JAMES A HOUSE married Ada Juanita House. the Lenni-Lenape >> and Cherokee, had merged again. >>> >>> Please do not hesitate to tell me anything or ask me questions. >>> >>> BARB aka Earthfeather >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>  ======*====== >>> List archives >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >>  ======*====== >> List archives >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > >  ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Nancy I think I am part of this club of individuals whose heritage has been hidden. I have heard about different DNA organizations and the kind of services they offer, but it sounds like Japanese sometimes. Can you tell me what company you used for your DNA research? I am very interested in learning more about my native american background. Thank you for whatever help you can give me. -- Henry Harvel Collections Billing Specialist Oneida Behavioral Health Center 2640 West Point Rd Green Bay, WI 54304 Telephone: (920)-490-3874 Fax: (920)-490-3845 >>> On 5/3/2010 at 6:25 PM, in message <[email protected]>, Nancy McGinty <[email protected]> wrote: > Barbara, I am like you and my heritage was hidden. A few weeks before > my mother died, we sent her DNA sample for analysis. Just days before > she died, it came back as European and Native American. This > motivated me to look harder for the link, and I found it with her 3rd > great grandmother being the daughter of a white woman and a Cherokee. > Nancy McG > > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:00 PM, BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Good Morning >> >> One of the first things that I do when I join a hew group, is browse through > the archives. Which I did. I already belong to several Cherokee groups. >> >> I am one of those whose heritage was hidden. But I felt it. And when my > mother died, I went on a hunt. Within two days the doors were open. The first > thing I learned was my HOUSE linage goes all the way back to the Delaware > Lenni-Lenape, Chief Big Thunder and Bright Lightning.And COLEMAN etc. >> >> The second important thing I learned, was my grandfather, ROBERT LEE GORDON, > was born at Gordonsville VA , 1887. He states in Documentation," his people > are from Virginia" >> >> The third thing I learned was my other grandparents' gramdparents Edmonds > and Alderman, are found at Shawnee Salt Lick Ohio.adjacent to TECSUMSEH's > road. Everyone on the census sheet is from MurderKillHundred, Kent County, > Delaware. >> >> Since those discoveries, I have become a serious Researcher, Writer and > Genealogist. >> Along the way I have accumulated a Elder/Mentor, who also is > Cherokee-Lenni-Lenape, who prefers to remain anonymous to outsiders. >> >> Because of my in depth research I am led to believe that my grandfather may > be the illegedimate grandson of General Robert E Lee, based on General and > Governor of Georgia, John B Gordon's "memoirs" >> >> My grandfather was the son of REBECCA BYRD TALBOT AND O B ( BYRD) GORDON. > tHE "O" is Odin, a nick name BUT I BELIEVE HE WAS, : JAMES B GORDON of South > Dakota. >> >> I have researched it all within great depth. I have read many documents > and many OLD books. I have learned of the Georgia "Gordons" who were cousins > to Robert E Lee. I know that the Great Chickamauga Battle ( 160,000 men) took > place on my relative's property, the Lee & Gordon Mills on the ChicKamouga > Creek. >> >> My House relative, John Tippy HOUSE ( Haus 1660) made it down to North > Carolina and married Lydia Ann BENGE. His grandson is JAMES HOUSE who went to > Montana. My great grandfather was James A HOUSE of Illinois and Montana, > where my father was born. ALFRED LEE GORDON >> >> When my grandfather JAMES A HOUSE married Ada Juanita House. the Lenni-Lenape > and Cherokee, had merged again. >> >> Please do not hesitate to tell me anything or ask me questions. >> >> BARB aka Earthfeather >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ======*====== >> List archives >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

If anyone is interested in the steps I took with genealogy, they can write to me individually. Nancy McG On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:31 PM, DanM. <[email protected]> wrote: > Just remember the uses of the Cherokee Circle list and the Cherokee > genealogy list :) > No genealogy on this list. > Dan M > >  ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This group is for learning about the Cherokee, the people, the things they did, the conversations of the past and present. No controversial topics please. [email protected] is the genealogy list. It was started to help keep the chatter and genealogy seperate and help the people work as a group. Dan M

Hello Nancy~~I would be interested~~~thanks  Jean Don't tell GOD how great your STORM is, tell the STORM how great your GOD is! "Enjoy the little things. One day you may look back and realize they were the big things" --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Nancy McGinty <[email protected]> wrote: From: Nancy McGinty <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Cherokee Circle and CherokeeGene To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 6:41 AM If anyone is interested in the steps I took with genealogy, they can write to me individually. Nancy McG On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:31 PM, DanM. <[email protected]> wrote: > Just remember the uses of the Cherokee Circle list and the Cherokee > genealogy list :) > No genealogy on this list. > Dan M > >  ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

my computer has been playing games. Sorry. BARB ----- Original Message ----- From: DanM.<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] Cherokee Circle and CherokeeGene Just remember the uses of the Cherokee Circle list and the Cherokee genealogy list :) No genealogy on this list. Dan M ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just remember the uses of the Cherokee Circle list and the Cherokee genealogy list :) No genealogy on this list. Dan M

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Barbara, I am like you and my heritage was hidden. A few weeks before my mother died, we sent her DNA sample for analysis. Just days before she died, it came back as European and Native American. This motivated me to look harder for the link, and I found it with her 3rd great grandmother being the daughter of a white woman and a Cherokee. Nancy McG On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:00 PM, BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO <[email protected]> wrote: > Good Morning > > One of the first things that I do when I join a hew group, is browse through the archives. Which I did. I already belong to several Cherokee groups. > > I am one of those whose heritage was hidden. But I felt it. And when my mother died, I went on a hunt. Within two days the doors were open. The first thing I learned was my HOUSE linage goes all the way back to the Delaware Lenni-Lenape, Chief Big Thunder and Bright Lightning.And COLEMAN etc. > > The second important thing I learned, was my grandfather, ROBERT LEE GORDON, was born at Gordonsville VA , 1887. He states in Documentation," his people are from Virginia" > > The third thing I learned was my other grandparents' gramdparents Edmonds and Alderman,  are found at Shawnee Salt Lick Ohio.adjacent to TECSUMSEH's road. Everyone on the census sheet is from MurderKillHundred, Kent County, Delaware. > > Since those discoveries, I have become a serious Researcher, Writer and Genealogist. > Along the way I have accumulated a Elder/Mentor, who also is Cherokee-Lenni-Lenape, who prefers to remain anonymous to outsiders. > > Because of my in depth research I am led to believe that my grandfather may be the illegedimate grandson of General Robert E Lee, based on General and Governor of Georgia, John B Gordon's "memoirs" > > My grandfather was the son of REBECCA BYRD TALBOT AND O B ( BYRD) GORDON. tHE "O" is Odin, a nick name BUT I BELIEVE HE WAS,  : JAMES B GORDON of South Dakota. > >  I have researched it all within great depth. I have read many documents  and many OLD books. I have learned of the Georgia "Gordons" who were cousins to Robert E Lee. I know that the Great Chickamauga Battle ( 160,000 men) took place on my relative's property, the Lee & Gordon Mills on the ChicKamouga Creek. > > My House relative, John Tippy HOUSE ( Haus 1660)  made it down to North Carolina and married Lydia Ann BENGE. His grandson is JAMES HOUSE who went to Montana. My great grandfather was James A HOUSE of Illinois and Montana, where my father was born. ALFRED LEE GORDON > > When my grandfather JAMES A HOUSE married Ada Juanita House. the Lenni-Lenape and Cherokee, had merged again. > > Please do not hesitate to tell me anything or ask me questions. > > BARB aka Earthfeather > > > > > > > > > > > > >  ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

To Barbara, to Nancy, and to Dan, I am so inspired by Barbara and Nancy's stories; I have 'hidden' heritage and feel it. I have made one feeble attempt at discovery. I am almost frightened to start again but with all the links that have been posted in the past year since I became acquainted with this makes me want to tackle again and stop hiding behind too much work, no time, etc. My grandmother was one of the dearest people in my childhood and I really want to know her and 'our' connections. I know the connection is there but that is as far as I have pursued. Thank each of you as I sit here, knowing that someday soon I will be doing this and you are an inspiration for me to start doing it now! Your histories make me know that I have my history--all I have to do is reach for it. Thank you. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy McGinty Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 6:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Cherokee Circle] New Serious Cherakee Member Barbara, I am like you and my heritage was hidden. A few weeks before my mother died, we sent her DNA sample for analysis. Just days before she died, it came back as European and Native American. This motivated me to look harder for the link, and I found it with her 3rd great grandmother being the daughter of a white woman and a Cherokee. Nancy McG On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:00 PM, BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO <[email protected]> wrote: > Good Morning > > One of the first things that I do when I join a hew group, is browse through the archives. Which I did. I already belong to several Cherokee groups. > > I am one of those whose heritage was hidden. But I felt it. And when my mother died, I went on a hunt. Within two days the doors were open. The first thing I learned was my HOUSE linage goes all the way back to the Delaware Lenni-Lenape, Chief Big Thunder and Bright Lightning.And COLEMAN etc. > > The second important thing I learned, was my grandfather, ROBERT LEE GORDON, was born at Gordonsville VA , 1887. He states in Documentation," his people are from Virginia" > > The third thing I learned was my other grandparents' gramdparents Edmonds and Alderman,  are found at Shawnee Salt Lick Ohio.adjacent to TECSUMSEH's road. Everyone on the census sheet is from MurderKillHundred, Kent County, Delaware. > > Since those discoveries, I have become a serious Researcher, Writer and Genealogist. > Along the way I have accumulated a Elder/Mentor, who also is Cherokee-Lenni-Lenape, who prefers to remain anonymous to outsiders. > > Because of my in depth research I am led to believe that my grandfather may be the illegedimate grandson of General Robert E Lee, based on General and Governor of Georgia, John B Gordon's "memoirs" > > My grandfather was the son of REBECCA BYRD TALBOT AND O B ( BYRD) GORDON. tHE "O" is Odin, a nick name BUT I BELIEVE HE WAS,  : JAMES B GORDON of South Dakota. > >  I have researched it all within great depth. I have read many documents  and many OLD books. I have learned of the Georgia "Gordons" who were cousins to Robert E Lee. I know that the Great Chickamauga Battle ( 160,000 men) took place on my relative's property, the Lee & Gordon Mills on the ChicKamouga Creek. > > My House relative, John Tippy HOUSE ( Haus 1660)  made it down to North Carolina and married Lydia Ann BENGE. His grandson is JAMES HOUSE who went to Montana. My great grandfather was James A HOUSE of Illinois and Montana, where my father was born. ALFRED LEE GORDON > > When my grandfather JAMES A HOUSE married Ada Juanita House. the Lenni-Lenape and Cherokee, had merged again. > > Please do not hesitate to tell me anything or ask me questions. > > BARB aka Earthfeather > > > > > > > > > > > > >  ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ======*====== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2851 - Release Date: 05/03/10 13:27:00

Just keep it on the up and up. Dan M list admin. :) HI! ----- Original Message ----- From: "BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "earthfeather99" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: [Cherokee Circle] New Serious Cherakee Member > Good Morning > > One of the first things that I do when I join a hew group, is browse > through the archives. Which I did. I already belong to several Cherokee > groups. > > I am one of those whose heritage was hidden. But I felt it. And when my > mother died, I went on a hunt. Within two days the doors were open. The > first thing I learned was my HOUSE linage goes all the way back to the > Delaware Lenni-Lenape, Chief Big Thunder and Bright Lightning.And COLEMAN > etc. > > The second important thing I learned, was my grandfather, ROBERT LEE > GORDON, was born at Gordonsville VA , 1887. He states in Documentation," > his people are from Virginia" > > The third thing I learned was my other grandparents' gramdparents Edmonds > and Alderman, are found at Shawnee Salt Lick Ohio.adjacent to TECSUMSEH's > road. Everyone on the census sheet is from MurderKillHundred, Kent County, > Delaware. > > Since those discoveries, I have become a serious Researcher, Writer and > Genealogist. > Along the way I have accumulated a Elder/Mentor, who also is > Cherokee-Lenni-Lenape, who prefers to remain anonymous to outsiders. > > Because of my in depth research I am led to believe that my grandfather > may be the illegedimate grandson of General Robert E Lee, based on General > and Governor of Georgia, John B Gordon's "memoirs" > > My grandfather was the son of REBECCA BYRD TALBOT AND O B ( BYRD) GORDON. > tHE "O" is Odin, a nick name BUT I BELIEVE HE WAS, : JAMES B GORDON of > South Dakota. > > I have researched it all within great depth. I have read many documents > and many OLD books. I have learned of the Georgia "Gordons" who were > cousins to Robert E Lee. I know that the Great Chickamauga Battle ( > 160,000 men) took place on my relative's property, the Lee & Gordon Mills > on the ChicKamouga Creek. > > My House relative, John Tippy HOUSE ( Haus 1660) made it down to North > Carolina and married Lydia Ann BENGE. His grandson is JAMES HOUSE who went > to Montana. My great grandfather was James A HOUSE of Illinois and > Montana, where my father was born. ALFRED LEE GORDON > > When my grandfather JAMES A HOUSE married Ada Juanita House. the > Lenni-Lenape and Cherokee, had merged again. > > Please do not hesitate to tell me anything or ask me questions. > > BARB aka Earthfeather > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======*====== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=cherokee > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message