Re: Ginger's comments and notes from the Noble book on Aquila and Thomas The possibility (apparently suggested in Arthur Noble's book) of the London (from Chesham) Aquila's family (or parts thereof) being involved in the growing Baptist movement as an explanation of why (1) there is no record of the alleged son Thomas's baptism in the local (Church of England) Parish records, and (2) the son Aquila's recorded baptism in that Church did not take place until 8 years after his birth, is interesting. But without competent corroborating documentation, it must remain only an interesting possibility. (I am sorry, but I am a systems research scientist by training and experience, and a listing of acknowledgements of diverse individuals who "contributed" to a study carries no weight of proof until we know exactly what alleged "fact" each contributed in support of the conclusion, and the documented basis for it. (Many social science "researchers" are often not so bothered by a lack information exactness, but that's another issue.) Dick Chase