Hello All, Is there any possibility that Wm. Jr. didn't have a 2nd wife at all - and the 4 youngest children attributed to him were really the children of his son William's 1st wife? The dates would fit much better, they would be much closer in age to their wives - it just seems more logical. Also, William 3rd could easily have beem married before his recorded marriage to Hannah Sherman, since he was already 31 years of age at that time. I have no evidence, just this working hypothesis that it makes more sense out of the records in existence. Regards, Luke Huisman Edmonton, AB C D White wrote: > Holly, do you already have this? > > SOME OF THE DESCENDANTS OF WILLIAM CHASE > OF ROXBURY AND YARMOUTH, MASS. > Compiled by > George Walter Chamberlain > for > John Carroll Chase > Hazen P. Chase > Holyoke, Mass. > 1983 > > 2. WILLIAM2 CHASE (William1), of Yarmouth, born in England > as early as 1627, died at Yarmouth 27 Feb. 1684/5. He married > first, about 1644, (???); and secondly (???). It has > been said that he had four children by each wife, and that his > second wife was Elizabeth Holder. One Christopher Holder > of Olveston, co. Gloucester, England, came to Boston in 1656, > but, since he espoused the views of the Quakers, he was banished > in 1659 and fled to Newport, R. I. He married, 12 Aug. > 1660, Mary Scott. Among his nine children born at Newport > was Elizabeth Holder, born 4 Jan. 1664/5, who, when William > Chase died, would have been barely twenty years of age. As > it has been claimed that the four youngest children of William > Chase were born of his second wife, and as the eldest of these > four children sold land in Harwich in 1695 and therefore > must have been born as early as 1674, when Elizabeth Holder > was only about ten years old, it is impossible for her to have > been the second wife of William Chase. No other Holder > family has been found in New England before 1700. > Rev. John Eliot, in his records of the Roxbury church (pp. 73-74), stated > that William Chase came with his parents in 1630 and was "a child of ill > qualitys & a sore affliction to his parents." As "William Chase Junr" he > was listed in August 1643 among the Yarmouth men between sixteen and sixty > years of age who were able to bear arms. (Plymouth Colony Records, vol. 8, > p. 194.) He was probably the William Chase who was in the military service > from Yarmouth as a "drummer" from 24 Aug. to 2 Sept. 1645, and received an > extra fee of 5s. for his services. (Ib., vol. 2, p. 91.) The following > entry is found in the records of a General Court held at Plymouth on 6 Mar. > 1654/5: > "William Chase Junr. for goeing into the house of Richard Berry, and taking > away by violence a p'cell of flax and a smale p'cell of hose yarne, was > sentanced to sitt in the stockes an houre on a training day att Yarmouth." > (Ib., vol. 3, p. 74.) > He lived near Herring River, on the east side of Bass River, in Old > Yarmouth, in the part which is now either Dennis or Harwich. > On 2 June 1685 it was ordered by a General Court held at Plymouth "that > Capt. John Thacher & Mr. Barnabas Lothropp [are] to setle the estate of > William Chase, of Yarmouth, deceased." (Ib., vol. 6, p. 170.) > Children, probably by first wife, born at Yarmouth: > 4. i. WILLIAM,3 b. about 1645. > 5. ii. JACOB, b. about 1647. > 6. iii. JOHN, b. 6 Apr. 1649. > iv. ELIZABETH, m. 27 May 1674 DANIEL BAKER, son of Francis and > Isabel Baker of Yarmouth. > Children, probably by second wife, born at Yarmouth: > 7. v. ABRAHAM. > 8. vi. JOSEPH, b. about 1673. > Page 50 > 9. vii. BENJAMIN. > 10. viii. SAMUEL. > > ---------- > > From: snead <snead@bellsouth.net> > > To: CHASE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [CHASE-L] CHASE, William Chase, Jrs, children > > Date: Monday, June 29, 1998 1:53 PM > > > > I am receiving mixed messages on the mother's of Wm Chase, Jr's > > children. I have heard that he had eight children, and it is believed > > that four were by his first wife and four were by his second wife. There > > are conflicting reports as to which children went with which marriage. > > Is there anyone who, as accurately as possible, can tell which children > > were born of the first marriage and which were by the second? I have > > been told that Abraham, my father's 7th great grandfather, was the son > > of wife no. 1 and then told that he was by wife no. 2. Could someone > > give the birth order of the children, and if there is any validity, > > however small, that the mothers were Sarah or Abigail Hale as 1st wife, > > and Elizabeth Holden, as 2nd wife. I have read "Some of the Descendants > > of William Chase of Yarmouth" and would like to know who I should be > > trying to find as mother of Abraham Chase. Thanks for any assistance. > > > > Holly M. Snead snead@bellsouth.net > > 5761 Bethel Road > > Clermont, Ga. 30527 > >