Cheryl Andrews, no you are not in a time warp, it was last week that I wrote to mamakitty about 'the' family, unfortunately I was not aware untill that email had been read by others that the PC calendar was out of date, my PC had crashed several weeks ago and I am still finding settings and files that are 'read only' etc etc...Yes I had read your artilce 28 Mar 1999 and have hard copy of Jobs history especially the link to James Alvin and John Frances Chase..Yes I am still subscribing to and participant in many exchanges of family history with other family members...here's hoping I hear from you soon.. Dave Davies....Auckland....New Zealand.