Hi, Jackson, I am virtually certain that it is a copy of the database that I compiled over about 8 years. Many Chase list members sent me information and most are listed on the site at chase.genealogysurnames.com I say this because if you click on the links to the database you appear to end up there. I am more than a little annoyed as I have NEVER EVER given permission to do this. However as I have said before some previous list members had copies of this database. Nevertheless I do not believe they did it. Keith Hume Keith Hume ----- Original Message ----- From: <utahgenealogist@peoplepc.com> To: <chase@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [CHASE] CHASE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 9 >I do not know who the originator of ths database is but I have apparently > registered onto this site but cannot log in there. I find my family in > that > database. > > Jackson Andersen > IBSSG > >> Message: 4 >> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:47:47 -0400 >> From: "lclevers" <lclevers@cfl.rr.com> >> Subject: [CHASE] What's this site >> To: <Chase@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <004901c6c7f0$d98b47a0$020fa8c0@martin2> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Anyone able to tell me about this site >> Chase.familytreeguide.com >> >> I received an email from someone tonight saying something about their >> privacy being violated. I emailed them for further information. While >> waiting for them to get back to me about it, I just wanted to learn more >> about the site. >> It's probably just someone new to research upset that they found family >> members listed there. >> >> Thanks, >> Lisa Martin >> Chase List ADMIN >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Scary or not it must be reassuring to the Group Keith Hume ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChaseDNAteam@aol.com> To: <CHASE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:39 AM Subject: [CHASE] Scary > Without reading Dick's e-mails and me answering some of the same questions > it's scary how the two of us think alike! I wish I was half as > knowledgeable as > Dick! Charlie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Charlie, Have I got this right? There is no way a DNA test can prove/disprove a link with a member the CHASE families either male or female? Thanks for all your good work ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChaseDNAteam@aol.com> To: <chase@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test > > In a message dated 8/25/2006 3:05:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > k.hume3@ntlworld.com writes: > > Hi,Charlie, > This gets more and more intriguing!. > Am I right in thinking that her connections are all on the female Chase > line > as I understand that is the only way this test can be relevant. > Also about 18 months ago I was looking at some articles on DNA testing > and > read that from 6 generations back , using the "male" test you could not > rely > on the data due to minor mutations. > Do you or anyone on the list know anything about this? > > > > Keith, yes the mtDNA test only covers the maternal side of the family and > it > has nothing to do with the results we have so far on the Chase males who > have taken the test. > > On your second question, while you can have mutations pop up randomly, > the 6 > generations certainly was not a factor on the descendants of Aquila and > William Chase. In DNA testing a generation is considered about 20 > years--to go > back to William or Aquila where the results have been very consistent you > go > back about 375 years. It's amazing to me how the results are so close for > the > test takers in each of these lines. This is not an exact science--but > it's a > good tool to help prove your research. Charlie Scott > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Dick, I did not realise or probably forgot that you and I were both descendants of James P. Chase. I have powerful evidence that my Hume ancestor Peter married his daughter ,Sarah, in what is now New Brunswick and indeed some years ago I visited the site of Peter's first and later Land Grants The difference between you descent is I James P. was my 3 times Great Grandfather. The reason for this is my grandfather was born in 1835 near Baddeck,( This in a 100 year old letter written by him) and my Dad was born in 1890 with me being born in 1930. If I have no luck getting Dennis partridge I am prepared to put the data on another website but with an increse in interest I would prefer to leave it where it is at present. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Chase" <chasede@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <chase@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test > Yeah ... agreed. > > I have completed my linkages to join up with the William line, being Capt. > George Bedford Chase, who had James P. Chase(my 5th g grandfather) the > Loyalist who settled here . That is why i enquired as to who was handling > the DNA page update. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Chase" <rachase@triad.rr.com> > To: <chase@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test > > >> Keith -- The Y chromosome dna does tend to mutate over a number of >> generations, that is, the value of an individual allele (or marker) can >> change between two generations. But I think that the test results that we >> have for the CHASE individuals who have taken the 25 marker test rather >> clearly show that 6 generations is not a limit for valid comparisons. In >> both the Aquila and William lines there are very close matches for >> individuals who are 10 generations removed from the known common >> ancestor. >> >> Dick Chase >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: chase-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Keith Hume >> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:05 PM >> To: chase@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test >> >> Hi,Charlie, >> This gets more and more intriguing!. >> Am I right in thinking that her connections are all on the female Chase >> line >> >> as I understand that is the only way this test can be relavent. >> Also about 18 months ago I was looking at some articles on DNA testing >> and >> read that from 6 generations back , using the "male" test you could not >> rely >> >> on the data due to minor mutations. >> Do you or anyone on the list know anything about this? >> Keith Hume >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <ChaseDNAteam@aol.com> >> To: <chase@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test >> >> >>> To: Chase Group >>> >>> Today we had one of the test takers, who matches the William Chase >>> descendants, upgrade from 12 to 37 markers. As we build a base at 37 >>> markers we might >>> start seeing a difference in the results. If this happens, it could show >>> a >>> difference for the children of William or at some generation. We won't >>> know >>> until we get some results back. This is also an idea for the Aquila >>> descendants. >>> >>> The basic 12 marker test shows if you have a common ancestor with those >>> with >>> proven research. For some, this might be all you need. For those of you >>> who >>> are still trying to prove your research, this is an additional tool. >>> (Upgrades: 12 to 25 or 25-37 = $49; 12 to 37 =$99) >>> >>> We also have, I think, our first Chase female doing the mtDNA test >>> ($129). >> >>> I >>> admit, I know very little about the mtDNA test and how to read the >>> results. I >>> guess we will learn together. >>> >>> Charlie Scott >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Hi,Dick, That is good news however are you saying that more than 6 generations is accurate in EVERY case? This is all good stuff! and the interest aroused among the later joining list members is very encouraging. At the moment I am trying to contact my Chase site owner but so far no success. I came across his "Blog" in which he states he hopes to open another 50!!!!?? genealogy sites. Surnameweb give him as the contact but so far no joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Chase" <rachase@triad.rr.com> To: <chase@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test > Keith -- The Y chromosome dna does tend to mutate over a number of > generations, that is, the value of an individual allele (or marker) can > change between two generations. But I think that the test results that we > have for the CHASE individuals who have taken the 25 marker test rather > clearly show that 6 generations is not a limit for valid comparisons. In > both the Aquila and William lines there are very close matches for > individuals who are 10 generations removed from the known common ancestor. > > Dick Chase > > -----Original Message----- > From: chase-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Keith Hume > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:05 PM > To: chase@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test > > Hi,Charlie, > This gets more and more intriguing!. > Am I right in thinking that her connections are all on the female Chase > line > > as I understand that is the only way this test can be relavent. > Also about 18 months ago I was looking at some articles on DNA testing and > read that from 6 generations back , using the "male" test you could not > rely > > on the data due to minor mutations. > Do you or anyone on the list know anything about this? > Keith Hume > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ChaseDNAteam@aol.com> > To: <chase@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:24 AM > Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test > > >> To: Chase Group >> >> Today we had one of the test takers, who matches the William Chase >> descendants, upgrade from 12 to 37 markers. As we build a base at 37 >> markers we might >> start seeing a difference in the results. If this happens, it could show >> a >> difference for the children of William or at some generation. We won't >> know >> until we get some results back. This is also an idea for the Aquila >> descendants. >> >> The basic 12 marker test shows if you have a common ancestor with those >> with >> proven research. For some, this might be all you need. For those of you >> who >> are still trying to prove your research, this is an additional tool. >> (Upgrades: 12 to 25 or 25-37 = $49; 12 to 37 =$99) >> >> We also have, I think, our first Chase female doing the mtDNA test >> ($129). > >> I >> admit, I know very little about the mtDNA test and how to read the >> results. I >> guess we will learn together. >> >> Charlie Scott >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
All, With all the great amount of knowledge and interest that has been displayed the last week on this list, I am praying that someone has some knowledge of this person, and can point me in the right direction. (Cannot participate in the Chase DNA test, as it's not my line). I need any information on the parents and siblings of Aaron CHASE b. 1767, d. 27 May 1812 Lempster, Cheshire Co, NH (now Sullivan Co). He married on 25 Dec 1790 to Dorothy STEVENS. They had they following children: Joseph Philbrick Chase b. 5 Nov 1791 Lempster, d. 6 Feb 1881 Sutton, Merrimack Co, NH m. Sabrina MORRILL Lydia Chase b. 1793 Barak chase b. 1796 Daniel Chase b. 1799 Marriner Chase b. 1801 Nancy S. Chase b. 1804 Mary Chase b. 1807 I would love to have any sources that relate to Aaron and Dorothy Stevens Chase v/r, Beverly Alexander Culpeper, VA I hear ethereal voices, persuasive, soft and still Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will? alexlary@crosslink.net
Source: " Seven Generations of The descendants of Aquila And Thomas Chase" Compiled by John Carroll Chase and George Walter Chamberlain LT. NATHANIEL 5 CHASE (Timothy,4 Isaac,3 Daniel2), born about 1748; baptized in Templeton, 8 Feb. 1756; died in Cattaraugus, N. Y., 18 Dec. 1826, aged 78. He married (1) 6 July 1772, RACHEL PIERCE who died 21 Oct. 1784. He married about 1784 (2) NAOMI KELLEY who died 18 May 1833, aged 66. They lived in Middlebury, Vt., and Townshend, Vt. In 1804 he removed to Franklin County, N. Y., and in 1816 to Cattaraugus, N. Y. He was a lieutenant in the Revolutionary War. Children by first wife : 881. REUBEN,6 b. 5 May 1773. 882. NATHANIEL P., b. 30 June 1775. 883. JOHN, b. 18 Aug. 1776; reported to have lived in Gill. MOLLY, b. 1778; m. Jesse Cauley [Cawley]. SALLY, b. 18 May 1780; d. young. Children by second wife: 884. MOSES, b. 14 Feb. 1786. ABIGAIL, b. about 1789; m. 10 Sept. 1808, Charles Welch. LUCINDA, m. (1) 1792, William Stimpson, who d. 1830; m. (2) Enoch6 Chase, of Plattsburg, N. Y. (Family 872) 885. ROBERT. 886. JACOB R., b. 13 Sept. 1794. NAOMI, b. 22 Mar. 1798; m. 1 Jan. 1816, William Baxter. HIRAM, d. young. EUNICE, b. 30 June 1802; m. 25 Dec. 1822, Isaac Thomas. IRA. b. 8 May 1804; m. 25 Jan. 1836, Diadamia Purvis; no children; lived in Watseka, ILL., in 1873. 887. MARTIN L., b. 12 Jan. 1811. Three other children d. young.
Looking for information on Elijah Chase (Abel, Ezekiel, Roger, Thomas, Thomas, Aquila). He is the youngest son of Abel Chase and Abigail Nelson, was born 18 Jan 1817 in Sebec, Maine. Moved to Meigs, OH in 1817 with family. Possibly married Elizabeth/Ester Bowman 3 Oct 1844 in Jefferson, Iowa. died in Olympia, WA 18 May 1866. Any connections would be greatly appreciated. SueEd NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Source: " Seven Generations of The descendants of Aquila And Thomas Chase" Compiled by John Carroll Chase and George Walter Chamberlain CAPT. JONATHAN 4 CHASE (Daniel,3 Daniel2), born in Newburv 1 Mar. 1732/3; died in Hopkinton, N. H., 6 Feb. 1815, aged 83. He married 7 June 1760, SARAH STICKNEY, daughter of Col. Jeremiah and Elizabeth (Carleton) Stickney of Concord. She was born in Rumford (now Concord), 14 Oct. 1737, and died in Hopkinton, 10 Mar. 1812, aged 74. Capt. Jonathan was at the battle of Bennington and the tak- ing of Burgoyne. In 1755 he belonged to Col. Rogers's Rangers in the French War. In an action with the Indians near Lake George he noticed a large stump, through a hole in which shots were being fired. He supposed the person behind the stump would na- turally wish to know the result of his shot, so after a short interval after a shot he aimed his musket at the hole and discharged it and a huge savage leaped into the air and fell dead. The Indians soon retreated and as Mr. Chase passed the stump he snatched a large wooden hominey spoon which hung to the Indian's side. The spoon was carried home and is preserved as a family relic It is now in possession of Dr. Leonard Chase of Springfield, Vt it is a curious specimen of savage workmanship having the figure of an Indian carved on the handle with a projection as a pedestal. He was in a sitting posture and holding to his mouth a water bottle The Gen. Assembly of N. H. 25 Jan. 1772, granted to Jona- than Chase, Beech Island in Conn. river between Cornish and Windsor. He commanded a Regiment at the surrender of Bur- goyne and was active throughout the War of the Revolution. (N. H. Hist. Coll. Vol. VII, pg. 72, 219, 223, 254, 263 and Adj. Gen. Rep. Col. 11, 1866, pps. 306, 309, 330, 331;.. Children, born in Concord, N. H.: 316. SAMUEL,4 b. 10 Mar. 1761. 317. MOSES, b. 30 Oct. 1763. 318. AARON, b. 27 Oct. 1766. ************* 319. JEREMIAH STICKNEY, b. 27 May 1768. 320. CHARLES, b. 9 July 1770. 321. DANIEL, b. 13 Apr. 1772. ************************************************ > > I need any information on the parents and siblings of Aaron CHASE > b. 1767, d. 27 May 1812 Lempster, Cheshire Co, NH (now Sullivan > Co). He married on 25 Dec 1790 to Dorothy STEVENS. They had > they following children: > > Joseph Philbrick Chase b. 5 Nov 1791 Lempster, d. 6 Feb 1881 > Sutton, Merrimack Co, NH m. Sabrina MORRILL > Lydia Chase b. 1793 > Barak chase b. 1796 > Daniel Chase b. 1799 > Marriner Chase b. 1801 > Nancy S. Chase b. 1804 > Mary Chase b. 1807 >
Am looking for descendants of Ezekiel Chase ( Roger, Thomas, Thomas, Aquila) - born 1728 in Newbury, died in Fairfield, Maine. Married Anna Spaulding. They had 7 children: Eleanor, Roger, Jacob, Ezekiel, Daneil, Jonathan, Abel. Abel married Abigail Nelson, they had 11 children. In 1817 the left Somerset, Maine for Meigs County, OH. Abel and Abigail are my gggg-grandparents. I have information on the children of Abel and Abigail. SuzE NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Keith Yes you will remember Claudia MacArthur-Hume had provided some genealogy information to us back in the 90's I believe and I think a good portion of it is on the CHASE database site... There have been a lot of changes in the site, such as the "search" and opening pages...I guess this moved to a new server <?> As to the DNA I think it is more or less an indicator of being on the correct "track" as it were in one's research, but it is not an end in itself. I think the object is still to "prove" your own lineage as accurately as possible, but the DNA matching provides a search area. Derek ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Hume" <k.hume3@ntlworld.com> To: <chase@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test > Dick, > I did not realise or probably forgot that you and I were both descendants > of James P. Chase. > I have powerful evidence that my Hume ancestor Peter married his daughter > ,Sarah, in what is now New Brunswick and indeed some years ago I visited > the > site of Peter's first and later Land Grants > The difference between you descent is I James P. was my 3 times Great > Grandfather. The reason for this is my grandfather was born in 1835 near > Baddeck,( This in a 100 year old letter written by him) and my Dad was > born > in 1890 with me being born in 1930. > If I have no luck getting Dennis partridge I am prepared to put the data > on > another website but with an increse in interest I would prefer to leave it > where it is at present. > Keith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Derek Chase" <chasede@nbnet.nb.ca> > To: <chase@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 11:09 PM > Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test > > >> Yeah ... agreed. >> >> I have completed my linkages to join up with the William line, being >> Capt. >> George Bedford Chase, who had James P. Chase(my 5th g grandfather) the >> Loyalist who settled here . That is why i enquired as to who was handling >> the DNA page update. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Richard Chase" <rachase@triad.rr.com> >> To: <chase@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 6:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test >> >> >>> Keith -- The Y chromosome dna does tend to mutate over a number of >>> generations, that is, the value of an individual allele (or marker) can >>> change between two generations. But I think that the test results that >>> we >>> have for the CHASE individuals who have taken the 25 marker test rather >>> clearly show that 6 generations is not a limit for valid comparisons. In >>> both the Aquila and William lines there are very close matches for >>> individuals who are 10 generations removed from the known common >>> ancestor. >>> >>> Dick Chase >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: chase-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>> Behalf Of Keith Hume >>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:05 PM >>> To: chase@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test >>> >>> Hi,Charlie, >>> This gets more and more intriguing!. >>> Am I right in thinking that her connections are all on the female Chase >>> line >>> >>> as I understand that is the only way this test can be relavent. >>> Also about 18 months ago I was looking at some articles on DNA testing >>> and >>> read that from 6 generations back , using the "male" test you could not >>> rely >>> >>> on the data due to minor mutations. >>> Do you or anyone on the list know anything about this? >>> Keith Hume >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <ChaseDNAteam@aol.com> >>> To: <chase@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:24 AM >>> Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test >>> >>> >>>> To: Chase Group >>>> >>>> Today we had one of the test takers, who matches the William Chase >>>> descendants, upgrade from 12 to 37 markers. As we build a base at 37 >>>> markers we might >>>> start seeing a difference in the results. If this happens, it could >>>> show >>>> a >>>> difference for the children of William or at some generation. We won't >>>> know >>>> until we get some results back. This is also an idea for the Aquila >>>> descendants. >>>> >>>> The basic 12 marker test shows if you have a common ancestor with those >>>> with >>>> proven research. For some, this might be all you need. For those of you >>>> who >>>> are still trying to prove your research, this is an additional tool. >>>> (Upgrades: 12 to 25 or 25-37 = $49; 12 to 37 =$99) >>>> >>>> We also have, I think, our first Chase female doing the mtDNA test >>>> ($129). >>> >>>> I >>>> admit, I know very little about the mtDNA test and how to read the >>>> results. I >>>> guess we will learn together. >>>> >>>> Charlie Scott >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Well from what I just learned you must submit a Gedcom in order to join. It's quite possible that some of this information has been submitted to the site with out the knowledge of the original researchers. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <utahgenealogist@peoplepc.com> To: <chase@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [CHASE] CHASE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 9 >I do not know who the originator of ths database is but I have apparently > registered onto this site but cannot log in there. I find my family in > that > database. > > Jackson Andersen > IBSSG > >> Message: 4 >> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:47:47 -0400 >> From: "lclevers" <lclevers@cfl.rr.com> >> Subject: [CHASE] What's this site >> To: <Chase@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <004901c6c7f0$d98b47a0$020fa8c0@martin2> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Anyone able to tell me about this site >> Chase.familytreeguide.com >> >> I received an email from someone tonight saying something about their >> privacy being violated. I emailed them for further information. While >> waiting for them to get back to me about it, I just wanted to learn more >> about the site. >> It's probably just someone new to research upset that they found family >> members listed there. >> >> Thanks, >> Lisa Martin >> Chase List ADMIN >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
In a message dated 8/25/2006 6:32:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, arizonajean1@cox.net writes: I (a female) have proven my line to William Chase. Would a DNA test prove anything else that would be helpful??? As far as the Chase side of your family, I would say that the DNA test would not be helpful. Charlie
Jean -- all that an mtDNA test would do is show your mother's/maternal g.mother's/etc. dna. Would provide no linkage to the William (male Y-chromosome)records. -----Original Message----- From: chase-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Belzer Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 6:31 PM To: chase@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test I (a female) have proven my line to William Chase. Would a DNA test prove anything else that would be helpful??? -----Original Message----- From: chase-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Chase Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:59 PM To: chase@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test Keith -- The Y chromosome dna does tend to mutate over a number of generations, that is, the value of an individual allele (or marker) can change between two generations. But I think that the test results that we have for the CHASE individuals who have taken the 25 marker test rather clearly show that 6 generations is not a limit for valid comparisons. In both the Aquila and William lines there are very close matches for individuals who are 10 generations removed from the known common ancestor. Dick Chase -----Original Message----- From: chase-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hume Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:05 PM To: chase@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test Hi,Charlie, This gets more and more intriguing!. Am I right in thinking that her connections are all on the female Chase line as I understand that is the only way this test can be relavent. Also about 18 months ago I was looking at some articles on DNA testing and read that from 6 generations back , using the "male" test you could not rely on the data due to minor mutations. Do you or anyone on the list know anything about this? Keith Hume ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChaseDNAteam@aol.com> To: <chase@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test > To: Chase Group > > Today we had one of the test takers, who matches the William Chase > descendants, upgrade from 12 to 37 markers. As we build a base at 37 > markers we might > start seeing a difference in the results. If this happens, it could show a > difference for the children of William or at some generation. We won't > know > until we get some results back. This is also an idea for the Aquila > descendants. > > The basic 12 marker test shows if you have a common ancestor with those > with > proven research. For some, this might be all you need. For those of you > who > are still trying to prove your research, this is an additional tool. > (Upgrades: 12 to 25 or 25-37 = $49; 12 to 37 =$99) > > We also have, I think, our first Chase female doing the mtDNA test ($129). > I > admit, I know very little about the mtDNA test and how to read the > results. I > guess we will learn together. > > Charlie Scott > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you Dick! Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "R A C" <gen12@triad.rr.com> To: <chase@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test > Just to be sure that everyone understands what the mitochondrial dna > (mtDNA) > is all about, it should be understood that this is strictly a MATERNAL > line > test. MtDNA is passed down from the mother to both male and female > children. > The female child will in turn pass it on to her offspring. Its use, > therefore, is to trace MATERNAL lineage (mother, maternal grandmother, > maternal g grandmother, etc.) Two individuals with a common maternal > ancestor line will have identical mtDNA. One feature of mtDNA is that it > does not tend mutate from generation to generation with the frequency that > male Y-chromosome DNA does, so you can reliably trace common maternal > ancestry lines much further back than male ones. > > > > The bottom line is that mtDNA cannot verify a male lineage (such as a > CHASE > line) except as it might be useful to compare DNA of individuals who > believe > that they share a common mother (and, if appropriate, maternal > grandmother, > etc.) > > > > Dick Chase > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: chase-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:chase-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of ChaseDNAteam@aol.com > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:28 AM > To: chase@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test > > > > > > In a message dated 8/25/2006 9:23:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > kathyc_7@msn.com writes: > > > > Where could I get the mtDNA done...any ideas would be appreciated. > > > > Kathy Caslin > > > > > > > > > > Where could I get the mtDNA done...any ideas would be appreciated. > > > > Kathy Caslin > > > > > > Kathy, if you mean how do I sign up for the test, I can assist you. I can > > order the test from Family Tree DNA. They will send you a test kit along > with > > the invoice. You can either pay by check or write a note on the invoice to > > charge your credit card. If you do it the second way--mention your card > number > > and sign the note. > > > > If you want me to order the test, I will need your full name, address, and > > phone number. Charlie Scott > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Hi,Charlie, This gets more and more intriguing!. Am I right in thinking that her connections are all on the female Chase line as I understand that is the only way this test can be relavent. Also about 18 months ago I was looking at some articles on DNA testing and read that from 6 generations back , using the "male" test you could not rely on the data due to minor mutations. Do you or anyone on the list know anything about this? Keith Hume ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChaseDNAteam@aol.com> To: <chase@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [CHASE] DNA test > To: Chase Group > > Today we had one of the test takers, who matches the William Chase > descendants, upgrade from 12 to 37 markers. As we build a base at 37 > markers we might > start seeing a difference in the results. If this happens, it could show a > difference for the children of William or at some generation. We won't > know > until we get some results back. This is also an idea for the Aquila > descendants. > > The basic 12 marker test shows if you have a common ancestor with those > with > proven research. For some, this might be all you need. For those of you > who > are still trying to prove your research, this is an additional tool. > (Upgrades: 12 to 25 or 25-37 = $49; 12 to 37 =$99) > > We also have, I think, our first Chase female doing the mtDNA test ($129). > I > admit, I know very little about the mtDNA test and how to read the > results. I > guess we will learn together. > > Charlie Scott > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Hi,Lisa, I believe I came across it when following some links from the DataBase on my chase site. As you know I have been trying to contact Dennis partridge who is the list owner of genealogy surnames and his original site,Surnameweb. I cannot remember fully how I came to the site but I believe that when I went to use the Chase database I finished up there! I am sorry I cannot spare more time to repeat the exercise but I am up to my eyes trying to get my Family film record on to DVDs for a visit from some of the family members from Australia Keith Hume ----- Original Message ----- From: "lclevers" <lclevers@cfl.rr.com> To: <Chase@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:47 AM Subject: [CHASE] What's this site > Anyone able to tell me about this site > Chase.familytreeguide.com > > I received an email from someone tonight saying something about their > privacy being violated. I emailed them for further information. While > waiting for them to get back to me about it, I just wanted to learn more > about the site. > It's probably just someone new to research upset that they found family > members listed there. > > Thanks, > Lisa Martin > Chase List ADMIN > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHASE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Thanks for the info about the mtDNA. I shall stop wondering now. Dolores Jarden
Without reading Dick's e-mails and me answering some of the same questions it's scary how the two of us think alike! I wish I was half as knowledgeable as Dick! Charlie
In a message dated 8/25/2006 3:05:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, k.hume3@ntlworld.com writes: Hi,Charlie, This gets more and more intriguing!. Am I right in thinking that her connections are all on the female Chase line as I understand that is the only way this test can be relevant. Also about 18 months ago I was looking at some articles on DNA testing and read that from 6 generations back , using the "male" test you could not rely on the data due to minor mutations. Do you or anyone on the list know anything about this? Keith, yes the mtDNA test only covers the maternal side of the family and it has nothing to do with the results we have so far on the Chase males who have taken the test. On your second question, while you can have mutations pop up randomly, the 6 generations certainly was not a factor on the descendants of Aquila and William Chase. In DNA testing a generation is considered about 20 years--to go back to William or Aquila where the results have been very consistent you go back about 375 years. It's amazing to me how the results are so close for the test takers in each of these lines. This is not an exact science--but it's a good tool to help prove your research. Charlie Scott