(see below) At 11:22 AM 5/30/98 -0700, you wrote: >Simzadi@aol.com wrote: >> >> Dear Keith, >> >> I have been searching for useful Chase sites, but cannot seem to find any at >> present. >> >> However, I noted that the Winthrop Society, an organization of descendants of >> Winthrop Fleet passengers, believes William Chase to have originated in >> Wivenhoe, Essex, England. >> >> Do you or anyone else on the list have any ideas about this? >> >> Warmest Regards, >> Lisa Zajkowski > >There is a book on the Winthrop Fleet passengers. They listed where each >passenger came from in England. Quite a good number of them came from >County Essex, England. I can locate the book in the Family History >Library here in SLC and look up for more details. > Good afternoon, I have the book The Winthrop Fleet of 1630 by Banks. It states the following: Chase, William Roxbury From co. Essex. Member First Church Roxbury. Applied freeman 19 Oct. 1630. Freeman 19 May 1634. Massachusetts Conony Records. Remember "The Truth Is Out There" Proper Citation is essential to a credible genealogy =============== Mailto:searchn@gte.net Our Home Page: (Supports MIDI, turn your volume down if you do not like music) http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5978/ PROUD MEMBER OF: G. J. W. Chapter of the DAR http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/3361 USGenWeb Project Counties: CO. Hinsdale Cty. http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohinsda/index.htm CO. Kit Carson Cty. http://www.rootsweb.com/~cokitcar/index.htm CO. La Plata Cty. http://www.rootsweb.com/~colaplat/colaplat.htm CO. San Juan Cty. http://www.rootsweb.com/~cosanjua/index.htm Morris Family Association http://genweb.net/~morris/ Member of NEHGS Member of Ancestry Member of Brown Family Genealogical Society Member of Disabled Veterans Association

Today I have updated the Chase Database adding 399 mor names. The Revision Record is in the Database introduction. To get the maximum benefit all those who submitted data should identify some of their family in the Database and Add a Link to themselves, Keith

Simzadi@aol.com wrote: > > Dear Keith, > > I have been searching for useful Chase sites, but cannot seem to find any at > present. > > However, I noted that the Winthrop Society, an organization of descendants of > Winthrop Fleet passengers, believes William Chase to have originated in > Wivenhoe, Essex, England. > > Do you or anyone else on the list have any ideas about this? > > Warmest Regards, > Lisa Zajkowski There is a book on the Winthrop Fleet passengers. They listed where each passenger came from in England. Quite a good number of them came from County Essex, England. I can locate the book in the Family History Library here in SLC and look up for more details. -- ******************************************************************* W. David Samuelsen Will Testators Indexes Online Naturalization Records Indexes Online Census Records Indexes Online Visit http://www.wasatch.com/~dsam/sampubco *******************************************************************

Good morning Chases, Do any of you know of, or have, the following book? "Tales of Old Chesham" by George Piggin, 1993 Lonnie

Dear Keith, I have been searching for useful Chase sites, but cannot seem to find any at present. However, I noted that the Winthrop Society, an organization of descendants of Winthrop Fleet passengers, believes William Chase to have originated in Wivenhoe, Essex, England. Do you or anyone else on the list have any ideas about this? Warmest Regards, Lisa Zajkowski

I am repeating my request for help with the CHASE Site. To date I have NOT HAD ONE positive response. If it is a question of converting information to WWW pages I can do that. Keith Hume ************************************************** All, I am appealing for help on the following sections of the CHASE site:- 1) Compiling a list of Chase Researchers www pages and present as a WWW page. This should include a "write-up" of the page either by the volunteer but preferably by the Owner 2) To compile a WWW page of Sites that CHASE researchers have found particularly useful in helping with their research. (NOT Archives) 3) To gather a list of Archives ot Locations any where in the world where CHASE records or data may be found preferably, but not necessarily, with knowledge of where such records may be found in the archive 4) To gather information as to the places in the world CHASE Researchers may be found. It is only necessary to have an email address and general location. Contributors may include their snail mail address if they choose. The object is to produce an Image Map of where,in the world, CHASE research is being carried out. 5) To gather copies of documentation relative to our ancestors such as Wills, Petitions, Letters etc. If possible images of original documents Again the object would be to include on the CHASE site. I already have a volunteer who is looking at ways to improve the general appearance and functionality of our Chase WWW site, Thank you, Keith Hume

All, I am appealing for help on the following sections of the CHASE site:- 1) Compiling a list of Chase Researchers www pages and present as a WWW page. This should include a "write-up" of the page either by the volunteer but preferably by the Owner 2) To compile a WWW page of Sites that CHASE researchers have found particularly useful in helping with their research. (NOT Archives) 3) To gather a list of Archives ot Locations any where in the world where CHASE records or data may be found preferably, but not necessarily, with knowledge of where such records may be found in the archive 4) To gather information as to the places in the world CHASE Researchers may be found. It is only necessary to have an email address and general location. Contributors may include their snail mail address if they choose. The object is to produce an Image Map of where,in the world, CHASE research is being carried out. 5) To gather copies of documentation relative to our ancestors such as Wills, Petitions, Letters etc. If possible images of original documents Again the object would be to include on the CHASE site. I already have a volunteer who is looking at ways to improve the general appearance and functionality of our Chase WWW site, Thank you, Keith Hume Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

Hi,David, Your comments are to the point. i have many Australian CHASE ancestors (William) and hey like to see themselves on the Web. I have passed on the dangers pointed out to me. One other point "But once the info is on a main database such as ours, it makes it harder to remove bits and pieces." With this system it is not too difficult. I can make a single alteration in seconds- remake the gedcom in about 1 minute and load it to site in about 3 minutes. I then use TelNet toget the HOST computer to make all the necessary files which it does in about 30 seconds. Compare this to Ged2html- Well there is no comparison. However asd I am gettinfg gedcoms,extracting information that wwe have not had before and manually entering other data I am kept more than busy! But alterations are not a big hassle. The only fly in the ointment is that I use BK 5.2 as my programme and most of those sending ged files use FTM and some notes in FTM are lost intransferinfg data. This does nort happen with Reunion or Pedigree. However Richard Chase is working on this for us, Keith Hume At 17:19 28/05/98 -0500, you wrote: >> There is only one possible reason why there may be a problem. In >> many cases today where we are trying to call in on credit cards etc. they ask >> the maiden name of the mother or some clue like that. A con artist would find >> this a great reason to get information through banks etc. Of course there >> wouldn't be ANY of our Chases who would possibly do that if our messages to >> each other are secure and definitely not available to the outside world. >> >> Ginger in Az. > >Dear Chasers, > I want to put my two cents in about this whole database thing. I >had my gedcom file online as a text file for nearly a year. Then I got an >inquisitive email from my aunt asking me why that information was on the >web. She was upset, for whatever reason. While it doesn't really bother >me that that info is available on the internet, it did bother her, and a >few of my other cousins who found my webpage as well. When we are putting >info on the internet regarding living people, we should also think about >their desires as well. Maybe they don't want anybody to be able to find >their birthday and mother's name, or info about their previos marriage(s), >or whatnot. I assume that noone is submitting files that contain blatant >recent illigitimacies, as that is against the Genealogist's credo (though, >personally it doesn't bother me, or most people who are involved in this >sort of family, BUT IT COULD...). > Anyways, my point is that while this info is in the public domain, >it is still subject to the desires of the people in the file. When my >cousin wrote me with her concerns, I quickly removed my file from the web, >though I haven't yet put up an "expurgated version"... But once the info >is on a main database such as ours, it makes it harder to remove bits and >pieces. > Anyways, that is just my insight on all this stuff. I thought >somebody might be interested to hear of it... > Sincerely, > David Revelle > > >

> There is only one possible reason why there may be a problem. In > many cases today where we are trying to call in on credit cards etc. they ask > the maiden name of the mother or some clue like that. A con artist would find > this a great reason to get information through banks etc. Of course there > wouldn't be ANY of our Chases who would possibly do that if our messages to > each other are secure and definitely not available to the outside world. > > Ginger in Az. Dear Chasers, I want to put my two cents in about this whole database thing. I had my gedcom file online as a text file for nearly a year. Then I got an inquisitive email from my aunt asking me why that information was on the web. She was upset, for whatever reason. While it doesn't really bother me that that info is available on the internet, it did bother her, and a few of my other cousins who found my webpage as well. When we are putting info on the internet regarding living people, we should also think about their desires as well. Maybe they don't want anybody to be able to find their birthday and mother's name, or info about their previos marriage(s), or whatnot. I assume that noone is submitting files that contain blatant recent illigitimacies, as that is against the Genealogist's credo (though, personally it doesn't bother me, or most people who are involved in this sort of family, BUT IT COULD...). Anyways, my point is that while this info is in the public domain, it is still subject to the desires of the people in the file. When my cousin wrote me with her concerns, I quickly removed my file from the web, though I haven't yet put up an "expurgated version"... But once the info is on a main database such as ours, it makes it harder to remove bits and pieces. Anyways, that is just my insight on all this stuff. I thought somebody might be interested to hear of it... Sincerely, David Revelle

Hi David, Are you related to the famous William Revelle --the outstanding former Uni. of Mi. Band Leader or do I have the name spelled incorrectly? Pertaining to info. about living relatives. When I was in the process of printing my book last year I must admit I had to hold back a little. The temptation was to write a real juicy section on some of the living, but I contained myself. It would have made a GOOD READ as they say in England. I can only suggest that we all know those who might object---so the answer to that is just write them and see how they feel. I for one follow--when in doubt---don't write it---and that usually works. Basically though most people are not that picky and they are more than willing to share info. . and are very pleased you bothered. Of course you are only referring to birth, m., and death dates s0----that's not so tough to decide. Ginger in Az.

Dear Steve, I notice you mentioned the price of $10.00 for the Chase book. It has gone up over the past very few years but surely is worth it for all Chase descendants to have in their possession. ginger in Az.

Hi, Maybe poor son William was ACTING OUT due to his mother's illness or her PLAYING POSSUM as Oliver Wend. Holmes put it. She was probably not paying enough attention to him. Ginger in Az.

Hi, You may obtain a copy of William Chase of Cape Cod book from the New England Historic G. Society in Boston, Ma. for around $5.00. It will probably help you connect with those early Chases for about 3 generations. Ginger in Az.

Hi to all, I surely agree with Rex Gillman Chase concerning the dates of the living being available. There is only one possible reason why there may be a problem. In many cases today where we are trying to call in on credit cards etc. they ask the maiden name of the mother or some clue like that. A con artist would find this a great reason to get information through banks etc. Of course there wouldn't be ANY of our Chases who would possibly do that if our messages to each other are secure and definitely not available to the outside world. Ginger in Az.

ALL, Can anyone help this lady out? Keith Return-Path: <SJNfamtree@aol.com> From: SJNfamtree@aol.com Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:29:30 EDT To: khume@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: professional genealogists Keith, Do you know any professional genealogists who would be willing to do a cyber interview? I'm taking a career management class and need to interview someone who is a working paid genealogist in an archives or some other place, even self-employed. Thanks, Sue Ninow Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

Would someone please be kind enough to resent that message to me? I lost it and wish to share it with another Chase researcher not on the list. Thanks, D

Good afternoon, I hope the list does not mind my doing this, BUT I am listing the CHASE marriages I have located. The sourse for these is Early Massachusetts Marriages by Bailey. If this is not appropriate to post to the list, please send me a message. Early Massachusetts Marriages by Bailey CHASE Surname SPOUSE DATE TOWN MARY Nathaniel Rawson 24 May 1764 Uxbridge EBENEZER Mary Friphel 30 June 1768 Uxbridge TIMOTHY Sarah Newton 2 March 1780 South Borough SAMUEL Jr. Silence Stow 29 May 1751 Grafton MOLLY Noah B. Kimball 12 Dec. 1782 Grafton MARY Ward Nye 28 Jan. 1768 Douglas HANNAH Thomas Bigelow 3 March 1774 Douglas HENRY Rachel Lincoln 11 July 1771 New Braintree FOLLINSBEE Hannah Marsh 2 Jan. 1749 Sutton THOMAS DR. Mrs. Mary Whipple 26 Sept. 1751 Sutton MOSES Hannah Brown 15 Apr. 1752 Sutton ROGERS Sarah Walker 6 Feb. 1754 Sutton BRADFORD Abigale Sibley 21 June 1763 Sutton MARY Francis Kiddle Jr. 21 April 1763 Sutton MOSES Susanna Lillie 6 Oct. 1763 Sutton THOMAS Deborah Killum 20 Feb. 1766 Sutton SIMON HANNAH CHASE 11 May 1769 Sutton MARY John Woodbury 17 Oct. 1770 Sutton MARY Ebenezer Sibley 24 Oct. 1771 Sutton REBECCA John Bartlett 23 Jan. 1772 Sutton WILLIAM Molley Elliot 14 Oct. 1773 Sutton DAVID Judith Holman 18 April 1774 Sutton JACOB Mary Ingerson 17 March 1774 Sutton DAVID PRINA Sarah Greenwood 2 Dec. 1777 Sutton NEHEMIAH Oashti Batchellor 17 Dec. 1778 Sutton CONSIDER Eunice Tillson 7 June 1759 Plymton JOSHUA Rebecca Eames 13 Oct. 1763 Marshfield ABIEL Hannah Halloway 12 Jan. 1777 Middleborough LIVI Silena Fobes 20 March 1771 Bridgewater EBENEZER Sarah Snow 21 Jan. 1783 Rochester SIMON Sarah Town 5 May 1785 Orange AARON Priscilla Harrington 22 March 1789 Orange Remember "The Truth Is Out There" Proper Citation is essential to a credible genealogy =============== Mailto:searchn@gte.net Our Home Page: (Supports MIDI, turn your volume down if you do not like music) http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5978/ PROUD MEMBER OF: G. J. W. Chapter of the DAR http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/3361 USGenWeb Project Counties: CO. Hinsdale Cty. http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohinsda/index.htm CO. Kit Carson Cty. http://www.rootsweb.com/~cokitcar/index.htm CO. La Plata Cty. http://www.rootsweb.com/~colaplat/colaplat.htm CO. San Juan Cty. http://www.rootsweb.com/~cosanjua/index.htm Morris Family Association http://genweb.net/~morris/ Member of NEHGS Member of Ancestry Member of Brown Family Genealogical Society Member of Disabled Veterans Association

This is most interesting. I am aware that both William Senior and Junior were somewhat "off center" but the interpretation of " A child of ill qualitys and sore afflictions" could quite easily have meant,inthose days,that he was what we now call sickly. An Article by DR.Oliver Wendell Holmes, father of the illustious jurist, made areport on Mary William senior's wife, in which he intimated that her complaints were "in the mind" (my words). He knew nothing,some 120 years ago, about the fact that the mind is responsible for the onset of many illnesses and in fact she was most probably genuinely due to stress. Just an opinion, Keith At 20:43 26/05/98 EDT, you wrote: >For those interested in this family. A genealogy called "Some of the >Descendants of William Chase of Roxbury and Yarmouth, Mass." by George Walter >Chamberlain was published across several issues of the New England Historic >Genealogical Society (NEHGS) Register from 1933-1934. This periodical has been >published since the 1840s and is available in many genealogical and other >libraries especially in New England. It is also in reprint in a paperback book >format from the NEHGS. I bought a copy a number of years ago for about $10 >plus S&H. However this format has no index, so I photocopied the annual >indexes from the originals. > >Someone made comments about William Chase Jr. These stories probably came from >this article. It has the following quotes from the original records: Rev. John >Eliot of Roxbury wrote in the church records that William Chase Jr. was "a >child of ill qualitys & a sore affliction to his parents". The following >entry are in the General Court records for Plymouth Colony "William Chase >Junr. for goeing into the house of Richard Berry, and taking away by violence >a p'cell of flax and a smale p'cell of hose yarne, was sentanced to sitt in >the stockes an houre on a training day att Yarmouth" > >Steve Barrett > > > Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

For those interested in this family. A genealogy called "Some of the Descendants of William Chase of Roxbury and Yarmouth, Mass." by George Walter Chamberlain was published across several issues of the New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEHGS) Register from 1933-1934. This periodical has been published since the 1840s and is available in many genealogical and other libraries especially in New England. It is also in reprint in a paperback book format from the NEHGS. I bought a copy a number of years ago for about $10 plus S&H. However this format has no index, so I photocopied the annual indexes from the originals. Someone made comments about William Chase Jr. These stories probably came from this article. It has the following quotes from the original records: Rev. John Eliot of Roxbury wrote in the church records that William Chase Jr. was "a child of ill qualitys & a sore affliction to his parents". The following entry are in the General Court records for Plymouth Colony "William Chase Junr. for goeing into the house of Richard Berry, and taking away by violence a p'cell of flax and a smale p'cell of hose yarne, was sentanced to sitt in the stockes an houre on a training day att Yarmouth" Steve Barrett

All I have realised that in having myself as contact on every page on the CHASE www site I am divering traffic from the CHASE-L List and filling up my mail box. Many of these questions can be better answered by those on the List with a greatere knowledge than mine. Also the List is being deprived of some information. Consequently, where appropriate, I intend to make the CHASE- List the Contact name. This will be carried out at the next Database update about 31 May. Keith Hume