In a message dated 98-06-18 02:32:36 EDT, you write: Hello Andrew Bond, You stated: << It would be a waste of time to pay them to lyophilize your blood sample unless you wanted to pass your DNA down to your children and so on. >> I assume that in addition to establishing one's descendancy, the reason some people may wish to have their DNA on file is for the diagnosis and treatment of many genetic diseases that are currently known and many more that are not currently known. And cremation takes care of any possible return visits to the body. I hope you are able to answer some of the questions regarding statistics that are being asked on the Chase list. For genealogy purposes, how far down a line can one go based on DNA or Y-chromosomes? <<it may be possible two compare the DNA pattern of or the Y- chromosomes of many CHASE descendents. This would allow us to test descendents of CHASE families in England to find out which one is related to Aquila for instance. The only problem with doing this is it would be expensive.>> Andrew, how much money are we talking???? (You need not include the expense of exhumation!!) I have considered hiring a professional genealogist and that too can be very, very expensive with no more guarantee of results than the lab tests for DNA or Y-chromosomes. Look forward to hearing more from you. Rex Gilman Chase

Well stated, Rex. Ginger I tend to believe what is written in THE CHASE FAMILY by Arthur H. Noble, Heraldry Today, London S.W. 3, 1967. On p. 52 I quote.....One possible reason for the move to America..The late baptism of Aquila (2) and the absence of that of Thomas could be due to Aquila (1) being born of a nonconformist family, and probably Baptist. In this branch of the Chesham family there was a strong dissenting element. As often happened, a man who became prosperous and (perhaps at his wife's insistance) conformed to the Established Church. Aquila and Thomas emigrated and landed at Hampton, New Hampshire, early in 1640 for they were granted land in June 1640. ....... Pedigree Chart #2, p.6 giving Thomas Chase of Chesham info. Thomas & Aquila to America. Surely ALL of the following listed people were not wrong. The following acknowledgements were made --The Society of Genealogists, London. JRM Glencross, Rev. Charles Henry Chase, Mrs. Susannah Chase, William Arthur and Jocelyn Chase. Rev. Montmorency Guilford, a Chase descendant, Arthur Morgan Chase, Parley Clifton Chase, Conrad Uucien Doughty Chase (Australia), Archibald Aubrey Chase (Barbados). Ginger in Az.

Sorry Keith, I didn't mean to hit your guilt bone again. I REALLY MEANT --I wish more English connected Chases would come forth to DIG IN over there. Speaking of dust---Those old records made out of parchment paper always did make me sneeze--. We are all really grateful to you for all of the fiddling around you are doing at your computer to help out the Chase group. Ginger in DUSTY BUT BEAUTIFUL Az.

Hi Keith, << you may only discover that at some time your ancestor was not who you thought they were. If you can live with discovering that there has been infidelity in your line OK. It happens more frequently than we care to imagine. >> First, thanks for the email. It is always good to hear from you. Maybe it is because I live in a very Liberal community but illegitimacy is so common and has been so common that it does not bother me. My longest line is back through a single woman (sorry, but it was in England) who had a son (my great grandfather). This son was raised by his grandparents (her parents). Well, through the bastard bonds of the church, I also found his father...wonderful...better than the rest of the lines. The son was a good guy, immigrated to America, served in the Civil War on the Union side, did very well financially and had a wonderful family. However, no one knew about his illegitimacy until I discovered it. Since that particular line thought so well of themselves (because the grandparent was "ENGLISH" rather than a common old "American" Chase), I could hardly wait to get to a telephone and ask if they realized that our common ancestor was a bastard. I thought it was a hoot. But I particularly liked the idea of going back an additional generation. On the Chase side, we have had one suicide (a very, very tragic affair), one murder where a (non-Chase, insane) father killed an adult son, a kleptomaniac, no single mothers that I can detect but some "premature" first births; strangely enough, on the Chase side, we have never had anyone with Altzheimer's Disease...which I think is even more interesting and probably consistent with current theories of its causation! I really think that if any family thinks that all of their ancestors were faithful, true and blue and that ALL of them are really their blood ancestors, there is a Golden Gate Bridge I would like to sell them (ask the Royal Family!!). Single mothers are probably fewer per capita now than they were in the past. Until the Victorian Age, being a single mother was not considered anything of note. It has always been common in Germany (esp. in the farming areas) and still is accepted without prejudice. << I have long contended that all ancestry should have been by the mother and not the father>> amen. I hardily agree. Some of the American Indians followed this practice. By the way, I hardly consider the discussion of Aquila, Aquila, Aquila to be a "fury" or a "wrangle". Maybe it was the discipline required in my former line of work but I view it merely as a candid & polite discussion. Polly Anna was never my favorite character. Also, I agree with Aquila being a rare name...I would place money that we are talking about not only a father & son in England but an uncle, cousin or some other close relative who came to America. Well, back to DNA!!!! Maybe we should dig them up!! Regards, Rex

Dear Andrew, What a brilliant idea you have. I wish you well in your venture. Could you possibly make a presentation to some of the larger drug companies /and or medical facilities throughout the U.S. where they are constantly doing extensive research? Perhaps with your presenting an impressive package they would financially sponsor you and your venture. Some time ago there was a place in Tenn.(Maybe a college or University there) that was asking all genealogists to donate direct line information with the idea of finding out what diseases each generation had. Do you know anything about that? Ginger in Az.

I know that this is probably getting tedious for you non-Aquila & Thomas line folks, but I think we need to get closure and not just default to the status quo. I tend to agree with Keith that the probability of two Aquila's in the same area (Chesham / London) at the same time is low. If we accept that probability, then London Parish records seem to make it clear that the Aquila (b. 1580), son of Richard and Joan Chase, who married Martha Jelliman in 1606 CANNOT be the father of the Aquila & Thomas who show up in Hampton NH, and the lineage presently shown on the CHASE site is wrong. If, perchance, the Chesham Aquila is indeed the father of A & T (but of which there is no current proof), then the London Aquila - Martha Jelliman record is of someone else, and our site is still wrong. If someone has another reasonable, logical alternative that has some rational, documented basis, I await it. Dick Chase

Hi,Sammy I opened this after I wrote my little peice on the subject, Keith At 19:38 17/06/98 -0700, you wrote: >Rexchase@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hello fellow searchers, >> I have been stuck in New York in 1819 for many, many years. Today I read >> an article in the NEGHS NEXUS, VOL. XV, Nos. 3 & 4, p. 94 that gave me an idea >> to possibly make a breakthrough or at least get me started in the right >> direction. ,......... Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

Hi,Rex, I have almost "feared" this. The Nasty that can leap out on you is that you may only discover that at some time your ancestor was not who you thought they were. If you can live with discovering that there has been infidelity in your line OK. It happens more frequently than we care to imagine. A survey and blood test taken about 10 years ago in a Northamptonshire village here in England were so taken aback by the results of the tests that they refused to publish the results on the basis that there were so many "Wrong ones". On the other hand a test done on some 10,000 year old bones found in or near the Cheddar Caves here were tested and one inhabitant of a nearby village was identified as a descendant ! I have long contended that all ancestry should have been by the mother and not the father. This would have been the only true way of knowing who you "half" were. Too late now . I once sat down and tried to work as far back as I could on my distaff side to see what name I may have had. If you want to blow your mind Try it!. This whole subject of "Real" ancestry is littered with snags. Are you descended from a Scots Clan? You think so? Well you should think again if you want to go far back. The influx of Irish into Scotland in the 17th and 18 th Centuries confused the whole issue for many were adopted by the Clans and took up the Clan identity, very often to have the protection this afforded. Well this might liven things up a bit, Keith At 22:04 17/06/98 EDT, you wrote: >Hello fellow searchers, > I have been stuck in New York in 1819 for many, many years. Today I read >an article in the NEGHS NEXUS, VOL. XV, Nos. 3 & 4, p. 94 that gave me an idea >to possibly make a breakthrough or at least get me started in the right >direction. > It seems that a company called Life Science (www.genesaver.com) is >providing vials to individuals in order to take blood samples. The >individual takes "his own blood sample which is then given to Life Science to >be processed and returned to the individual for safekeeping. The samples will >be lyophilized (freeze-dried) and stored in an inert gas in sealed containers. >T............ Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

Dear William Descendants, For those of you who are descended from William Jr., John, Isaac, Isaac, there is a Mayflower link through the wife of the 2nd Isaac, Thankful Maker, which leads back to Stephen and Giles Hopkins, Mayflower passengers. I have found a wonderful Mayflower site, which has announced that the true identity of Stephen Hopkins' first wife (always assumed to be Constance Dudley) has finally been discovered. After 400 years, this is exciting news. The findings will be published in the July 1988 issue of "The American Genealogist." Once the issue is out, Caleb Johnson will be posting the information on his Mayflower Web Site. <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/calebj/mayflower.html"> The Mayflower Web Pages</A> The url is: http://members.aol.com/calebj/mayflower.html I clicked on Mayflower Compact, then clicked on Stephen Hopkins name. I have no connection with Mr. Johnson, nor any financial interest at all in this - I am just darned excited that I may finally find out the identity of my 10th Great-grandmother. I know anyone else with Hopkins connections will also find this terribly exciting. I don't think Mr. Johnson would mind my directing you to his very informative site. Mr. Johnson also claims that a large amount of new information about Stephen Hopkins, including the baptisms of Giles and Constance, has been found. If so, this is truly a major genealogical event! (Almost as good as finding out where William Chase was from!) Happy Discoveries, Lisa Zajkowski

Dear Chase's, With all the talk about DNA testing, I have to smile. I remember thinking a long time ago, that we should dig up the remains of William and Aquila for DNA testing! I have to ask, though. Would a DNA test, which can identify PARENTAL connections with less than 100% accuracy, actually be able to prove blood lines from people who are 10 or more generations removed from the original subject? I tend to think that we would all end up with results that read "about a 20% chance that these two individuals are related." After all, would the 9th great-grandchildren of Benjamin, and the 9th great-grandchildren of William Jr. even show a significant DNA link? Experts? Any thoughts? Regards, Lisa Zajkowski

Yes I agree,.... I wish Keith could find another Chase link ---in England---who is an avid >genealogist as you obviously are. Then we could really have fun as they could >help solve the questions by making the necessary visits to the Buckinghamshire >Record Office, British Library, Essex County Record Office, Public Record >Office.......... Ginger you are having a gentle dig at me again! I KNOW you yearn to be ,once again,digging about in the dark recesses of the Co. Record Offices and you would LOVE the superb P.R.O. at Kew but you will have to be content with sunny and dusty and sunny, Arizona. For the benefit of all of you this bit about me and research is a long saga with Ginger. I know I am neglecting research but I cannot be everywhere and I thought getting this CHASE page going top priority. I am working on the biggest jobs of all The Archives page and the database and am now entering a load of stuff manually as well as designing the Archive page and finding suitable sources of CHASE info. I can assure you that the sooner we ALL get the job done the quicker I can get back to my haunts at KEW and those dusty County Records offices --and let one of you youngsters take over the site, Keith Hume At 11:26 17/06/98 EDT, you wrote: >Congratulations Dave White and Rex Chase---Now we're getting somewhere. What >you are stating and sharing with all of the Chases is what this whole group >is all about. >On............. Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

Hi, I confirm that there is no CONWAY recorded in UK but there is a CONWAY castle in Wales. The point Richard makes is similar to mine. It is probabilities we are talking about. I for one consider the probability of there being 2 Aquila Chase living about the same time in the region near or surrounding London as highly improbable but that is only my opinion I have received an email from a lady who sttes she is "soreley disappointed" with our site and the "wrangling" going on re this subject. She then went on to ask me a whole series of questions about wwhat research Had I done as I live in the UK!! I am afraid I was less than polite and have volunteered to post her email.in full. to the Group. Perhaps one of you is more charitable than I. I await her response, Keith HUME At 08:49 17/06/98 EDT, you wrote: > Having, I guess, started the present discussion on the appropriateness of >"our" web page continuing to show this [at best] questionable linkage between >the Aquilas, I appreciate the candid responses. My strong feeling is that we >should not perpetuate what from all current evidence is an invalid genealogy. > Two quick further comments: (1) the Chamberlain / Chase genealogy (7 >generations of the descendants of A & T...) is very clear (as a good research >wo........... Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

Rex, I am a skeptic by nature, so you can ignore my comments, but I read of a case where they could not prove the relationship of a child to her alleged grandparents with all three people's DNA. Most of us had 32 ggggrandparents. So, I guess I have a 32nd of each of their DNA, randomly given to me. Presumeably, all their descendants did not come away with the same 32nd. I am not mathematician enough to calculate the odds, but I wonder how likely it is that another child who is only descended from *one* set of those 32 grandparents would have the same two 32nds that I received. Seems like the odds are at least 16 to 1 that he or she would not have the same DNA? William I is eight generations back from me. At that point my math really fails me. But, sounds less certain than the records in any family Bible. Dave White ---------- > From: Rexchase@aol.com > To: CHASE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CHASE-L] DNA testing > Date: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 7:04 PM > > Hello fellow searchers, snip. > It seems that a company called Life Science (www.genesaver.com) is > providing vials to individuals in order to take blood samples. The > individual takes "his own blood sample which is then given to Life Science to > be processed and returned to the individual for safekeeping. The samples will snip > In my case, if I could compare my DNA with some known Aquila/Thomas line > and with some William line, I probably will then know which line I should be > vigorously pursuing...or maybe my line is neither, in which case I could look > elsewhere.

I don't recall anyone posting these wills. I received them in the past by e-mail and promptly lost the address of the sender when my system crashed because I had not backed up my e-mails. The inventory is not included in this version of William's will. The inventory is well worth reading, but I do not trust my typing to copy it from paper. It is in Ginger's book. So, I just include what I have as a file. As you can see, the wills are part of an excerpt from a well known genealogy. Most Chase's probably have these wills, but some may not. (Keith, I would not put this version on your website because I did not copy it directly from the text. It may have errors. You probably have a more complete version.) Excerpt from "The Chace and Hathaway Families" Wilson-Clark Co. Printers, Ashtabula, OH 1900 (Copied for family use; not for profit.) INTRODUCTION. The author of this Record, having for his own amusement and edification, collected from the Records, many dates relating to the Ancestors and Decendants of Holder Chace, of East Claridon, Ohio, and Clothier Hathaway, of Pompey, N. Y., was invited by some of the family to have it published. Not desirous of appearing as an author, yet being a member of the families (by marriage) he did not feel at liberty to refuse the request, though he well knew the task would subject him to much trouble and inconvenience. The work, such as it is, is submitted to the family in the confident belief that it will be found to contain records never before published, and that they can be relied upon as correct. The material has been chiefly obtained from family bibles and town records, of both Taunton and Freetown, Mass. The amount of labor both physical and mental, the work has cost, can be understood by those only who have themselves been engaged in some work of this kind. In collecting some material, the author has been kindly assisted by several gentlemen, among whom he takes pleasure in mentioning Rev. William A. Eardeley, of Henderson, Me., historian of "The  Chase-Chace Family Association," incorporated at Hartford, Conn., July 6th, 1899, and Mr. H. E. Hathaway, of Providence, R. I. To each of whom he is indebted for valuable information communicated and incorporated in this work.           C. V. C.  January 1st, 1900.  William Chase. "WILLIAM  CHASE, he came wth the first company, 1630 he brought one child his son willia, a child of ill qualitys, & a sore affliction to his parents: he was much afflicted by the long & tedious affliction of his wife; after his wives recovery she bare him a daughter, Wch they named mary borne aboute the middle of the 3rd month, 1637. he did after yt remove intending to Situate, but after went wth a company who made a new plantation at Yarmouth." "Mary  Chase the wife of William  Chase, she had a paralitik humor wch fell into her back bone so yt she could not stir her body, but as she was lifted, and filled her wth great torture, & caused her back bone to goe out of joynt, & bunch out from the beginning to the end of wch infirmity she lay 4 years & a halfe, & a great pt of the time a sad spectakle of misery: But it pleased God to raise her againe, & she bore children after it." (N.E.H.G.R., 1881). Such is the language of the first church in Roxbury, now Boston Highlands, Mass. William came over in the fleet which brought Governor Winthrop and his colony. He was one of Mr. Stephen Bachilor's company, who spent the winter of 1638 at Mattacheese (Yarmouth), and the only one who remained after that unfortunate enterprise was abandoned. October 9, 1630, he applied for admission as a freeman, and on May 14, 1634, he took the freeman's oath. WILL OF WILLIAM  CHASE, (Vol. 2, part 2, p. 63, Plym. Records.) I, William Chase, of Yarmouth, the elder, being aged and sick in body, but of perfect memory, thanks be to the Lord, do make my last will and testament, as followeth: First, I give and bequeath unto my son Benjamin, after my decease, one heifer calf and two steer calves, of a year old and upwards; also I give to my son William, who hath had of me already a good portion, the sum of five shillings, to be paid in any good pay, if he demand it. All the rest of my goods, cattle and chattels, I give and bequeath unto Mary, my wife, together with this my dwelling house, the land and all the appurtenances thereunto belonging; as also half of my lot of land at the Bass pond, which I bought of William Palmer, a middle line made, and that half part next to Darbey's I give unto her Mary, my wife aforesaid, as also my orchard and land I bought of Goodman White, now in my possession, all unto her use and disposing during her natural life, if she continues a widow, and when she dies, to dispose a third part of that estate God shall leave her, as she shall think good; the other two parts to our son Benjamin's part; but if it shall please God that she shall marry, my will is that she shall have a third part of that estate, and the other two parts to be to our son Benjamin aforesaid. Also I do make my wife Mary aforesaid, the executrix of this my last will and testament, and do appoint my neighbors Robert Dennis and Richard Taylor, tailor, overseers of this my last Will and Testament and have hereunto subscribed my hand this 4th day of May, 1659. Witnesses hereunto: Richard Hoar. WILLIAM X CHASE.  Mary Dennis. His mark.  These witnesses deposed before me, Thomas Prince, Gov'r. this 13th of May 1659. Inventory Sept. 14, 1659-- œ. 74, s 279 d 16. (Vol. 2, Part 2, p. 64, Plym. Records.) William Chase, d. between May 4 and 13, 1659, in Yarmouth. Mary his wife, was found dead in October 1659. * * * * BENJAMIN CHASE, m. in Dartmouth, Mass. about 1673 Philip (pe), b. Oct, 1st, 1652, dau. of Hon. Philip and Sarah (Odding) Sherman. He was made a Freeman, May,1674, at Portsmouth, R. I. He and his wife Philip(pe), joined the first Sabbatarian Church, Newport, R. I., April 17, 1717. He was selectman of Freetown, Mass. in 1698-9, and 1705; assessor, 1691; March 6, 1705 he was appointed "guardian unto his grand-daughter, Sarah Makepeace." He was a cooper by trade. His will dated Sept. 6, 1730. Extract from the early Bristol County, Mass. Probate Records. July 25, 1731.--The will of Benjamin Chace, the cooper was proved in the Court of Probate: "To sons Benjamin & Walter all my lands in Freetown purchase. To grandson Benjamin Grinnell one 40 acre lot of land in No. 23, and also the 7th, share in 3d lot, it being a cedar swamp lot in Middleboro'. To daughter Barthiah Dunham one half of the 14th, lot near Baiting Brook in Middleboro' and one cow. To son Benjamin the 5th share of the aforesaid third lot in Middleborough purchase. To sons Benjamin & Walter all the rest of my lands in Middleborough. To daughter Philip Hathaway, & son in law Jacob Hathaway, all my land from & adjoining the land that my son Jacob Hathaway bought of my son Benjamin Chase & shall be a quarter Share in breadth & extending in leangth down to the river, always excepting 3 rods square which is to be reserved for a burying place & is to be in the south-west corner. Also to daughter Philip 20 pounds, & all my moveable furniture that I have removed to my son Jacob Hathaway's house. To grand dau. Sarah the wife of Isaac Hathaway one cow. To grand child Daniel Grinell 5 shillings. Son Walter, sole executor." Witnesses: Isaac Hathaway, Benjamin Darnell, & Sarah Hathaway. Benjamin Chace, d. in Freetown, Mass., about July, 1731. Kieth, let me know if I can look up some Humes for you in Oregon. I work a block from our state library with its genealogical collection. Dave White (one of Wm's many gggggggggrandsons).

Rexchase@aol.com wrote: > > Hello fellow searchers, > I have been stuck in New York in 1819 for many, many years. Today I read > an article in the NEGHS NEXUS, VOL. XV, Nos. 3 & 4, p. 94 that gave me an idea > to possibly make a breakthrough or at least get me started in the right > direction. > It seems that a company called Life Science (www.genesaver.com) is > providing vials to individuals in order to take blood samples. The > individual takes "his own blood sample which is then given to Life Science to > be processed and returned to the individual for safekeeping. The samples will > be lyophilized (freeze-dried) and stored in an inert gas in sealed containers. > These containers will then be placed in outer containers which will be sealed > and labeled. It will then be possible to check for gene-carried illnesses, > and also provide later generations with fundamental proof of family > relationships which might otherwise be impossible to prove." > In my case, if I could compare my DNA with some known Aquila/Thomas line > and with some William line, I probably will then know which line I should be > vigorously pursuing...or maybe my line is neither, in which case I could look > elsewhere. > The above website is rather interesting and I have emailed them > regarding costs. Will keep you posted. > Is anyone else stuck on their line before finding Aquila/Thomas or > William? Please give me your ideas, suggestions, comments, anything.... > Rex Gilman Chase The only problem is that it works very well is through the female line..... W. David Samuelsen

Hello cousins After reading the DNA testing question I thought I would put my two cents in about the subject. I am currently beginning my 7th (and final, hopefully) year of study towards a doctorate in molecular genetics. I also read the snippit and advertisement in NEXUS about the company Life Science Inc., and how they will lyophilize (freeze-down) a blood sample so that you can have it tested at a later date. I have been thinking for some time about starting a company that will do "genealogical" DNA testing, unfortunately I don't have the start-up costs. At a recent NEHGS seminar I spoke with Tom Roderick about such a venture and he thought it would be a great idea. By the way, he has started a non-profit institute that will compare your mitochondrial (maternal) DNA with other people who have the same maternal line. Anyway, I'm not sure it would be profitable to gear a DNA testing company for genealogical purposes. The above mentioned company does not do testing as far as I know. I would be a waste of time to pay them to lyophilize your blood sample unless you wanted to pass your DNA down to your children and so on. If you wanted to have your DNA tested for a specific purpose then there are some companies that will do that (companies that specialize in paternity and forensic testing). W. David Samuelson brought up an interesting point in that it is much easier to compare a maternal line than a paternal line. Checking the DNA sequence to see if two people are descended from the same maternal relative (umbilical inheritance) is very easy. It is much more difficult to check paternal lines, but not impossible. Recently, some studies have shown that the Y-chromosome is much more varied than once thought. So it may be possible two compare the DNA pattern of on the Y-chromosomes of many CHASE descendents. This would allow us to test descendents of CHASE families in England to findout which one is related to Aquila for instance. The only problem with doing this is it would be expensive. If anyone has any DNA testing or genetics questions please feel free to email me. I have started setting up a web page that explains traditional and molecular genetics for genealogists, I'll let you know the URL when I'm done with it. Andrew Bond

Hello fellow searchers, I have been stuck in New York in 1819 for many, many years. Today I read an article in the NEGHS NEXUS, VOL. XV, Nos. 3 & 4, p. 94 that gave me an idea to possibly make a breakthrough or at least get me started in the right direction. It seems that a company called Life Science (www.genesaver.com) is providing vials to individuals in order to take blood samples. The individual takes "his own blood sample which is then given to Life Science to be processed and returned to the individual for safekeeping. The samples will be lyophilized (freeze-dried) and stored in an inert gas in sealed containers. These containers will then be placed in outer containers which will be sealed and labeled. It will then be possible to check for gene-carried illnesses, and also provide later generations with fundamental proof of family relationships which might otherwise be impossible to prove." In my case, if I could compare my DNA with some known Aquila/Thomas line and with some William line, I probably will then know which line I should be vigorously pursuing...or maybe my line is neither, in which case I could look elsewhere. The above website is rather interesting and I have emailed them regarding costs. Will keep you posted. Is anyone else stuck on their line before finding Aquila/Thomas or William? Please give me your ideas, suggestions, comments, anything.... Rex Gilman Chase

Hello all you Chasers, All the furor over Aquilla & Thomas makes me almost glad to be a William descendant. However, back to my subject - I will be unsubscribed for about 2 weeks as we are going to be away from home. Will be back on line as soon as we hreturn. Jeanne T. Lane -----Original Message----- From: CHASE-D-request@rootsweb.com <CHASE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: CHASE-D@rootsweb.com <CHASE-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 12:17 AM Subject: CHASE-D Digest V98 #118

To Dick Chase and all other interested Chases, Thank you , Dick, for your good comments. I am not sure this message got through so I shall copy it again. Hey there---sorry you got the wrong Chase---I wasn't referring to the author of the 7 Generation of Aquila and Thomas Chase Book . (He would be pretty dusty by now. Ha) There has been another and much later Chase--I am referring to. (in the 1980s.) He was President of the New England Historic G.S. in 1989-1990. I have the N.E.H.G.S Register , Vol. CXLiii, Oct., 1989, right before my eyeballs right now. He is the man I was referring to who was listed as from Dover, Ma. in 1989--you guys. What I meant was---anyone who was thought so highly of as to be the President of the leading Genealogical Society in America surely would be able to answer your question about Aquila and Thomas Chase and their links to Britain. In reference to the Chronicles . I believe the complete set is kept in the Albany, New York if any of you are closeby and can check that out. That's where I read about these Chases coming originally from Wales. They believed that then, but I don't claim to know whether it has been proven or not. (Obviously not). Also, I must admit it was quite fun reading about the Chases WHO WERE connected to the Chase in Chesham, Bucks., England and their relatives. Some lived in Marlow, Bucks., and there were some pretty colorful mentions of them in the Bucks. Co., England Record Office when I visited there. I realized early on that they were not connected to my Chase from Essex, but it did provide a good read.