Year's ago while going through microfiche files at the archives in Nova Scotia I came across a document titled "Crowells Scrapbook of New Englanders in Nova Scotia". In that document I copied an article that appeared on May 12, 1931 in The Yarmouth Herald which gave a historic sketch of the Chase descendants of William that later went to Canada as Loyalists. Does anyone in the group also have this article, and if not I would be willing to mail a copy to anyone that would like to add it to their records. Sincerely, Greg Chase Republic of Korea

Hi, Looking for Betsey Chase from Brunswick/Harpswell Maine. Born in 1812, m. a Joel Ward and had a d. Melissa, in 1846 (Brunswick). Looking for a marriage date, death date, and any other children. Thanks. Carla

Hello Chase Chasers I have a Luke Chase m. to Sara. They had William Archibald Chase in 1855. William married 1883 Waltham, MA, Caroline Price ,b. 1861 Butternut Ridge, NB. They had William Horatio Chase 1885-1965 L.A., CA. I have a connection to Caroline Price, but cannot attach the Chases to either main Chase families. Any help would be appreciated. Barry Price Vancouver, BC

I don't know if this is helpful to anyone but I came across this in my notes. Index to Marriage Notices in the Vineyard Gazette 1850 - 1863 Compiled by C. Baer http://www.vineyard.net/vineyard/history/gazmar63.htm Chase, Alfred & Ferguson, Isabella on 14 Aug 1850 in Chilmark (16 Aug 1850) Chase, Alpheus & Ferguson, Isabella on 14 Aug 1850 in Chilmark (23 Aug 1850) Chase, Amie D. (Edgartown) & Manter, Cyrus (Chilmark) on 9 Feb 1863 in Edgartown (13 Feb 1863) Chase, Ann Judson (Tisbury) & Kidder, Samuel D. (Edgartown) on 8 Jun 1862 in West Tisbury (20 Jun 1862) Chase, Hannah (Tisbury) & Cleveland, Tristram (Edgartown) on 27 Oct 1852 in Holmes Hole (5 Nov 1852) Chase, Henry R. (Tisbury) & Hancock, Mary Bird in Chilmark (6 Feb 1852) Chase, Isaac (West Tisbury) & Hancock, Frances N. (Chilmark) on 28 Aug 1855 in West Tisbury (7 Sep 1855) Chase, Joseph (Tisbury) & Chapman, Marion E. (Tisbury) in West Tisbury (30 Jul 1858) Chase, Love C. & Curtis, Amos on 28 Apr 1856 in Holmes Hole (2 May 1856) Chase, Mary (Tisbury) & Luce, Thaddeus (Tisbury) on 19 Feb 1850 in North Tisbury (1 Mar 1850) Chase, Minerva R. (Holmes Hole) & Bunting, James H. (Edgartown) on 3 Jun 1852 in Holmes Hole (4 Jun 1852) Chase, Rebecca L. (Tisbury) & Waggoner, William K. (North Fairhaven) on 12 Oct 1851 in Tisbury (17 Oct 1851) Chase, William Jr. (Tisbury) & Rogers, Susan G. (Tisbury) on 22 Nov 1863 in Tisbury (27 Nov 1863) Junelle L. McClintic http://www.bigfoot.com/~sweetamiga May you feel the blessings of God's love today and always!

I am looking for my husbands GG-and GGG-GRandfathers What I Know...James Chase B>PA 1808 (from Census)M-18 Dec 1831 in Switzerland county In. Elizebeth Long-I have census for this family but no record of where they were Born.. John Chase...B.NY ?? This was on census records of James we wondered if James had been born on the way to IN. Elizebeth Long --Daughter of Seth Long-- I have the family from them back to present time I will share.. Vivian Chase vchase@seidata.com

Hello to all who chase Chasees: Keith says that Rex, Richard, Matt, Debbie, Sheila, Sandra, he, and I have pledged support for the coat of arms search. If each of the seven of us on this side of the Atlantic contributes $20 (I'll pick up the transfer costs) and Keith plans to cover the rest. Please send your check to: Dave White 820 Sand Piper Ct NE Salem, OR 97301-3160 As soon as your funds arrive, I will add mine and transfer the lot to Keith in Pounds. I am really looking forward to learning more from this search. You can verify me by checking the state website at www.state.or.us, you will find me in the agency directory on the Government Resources page under the Department of Administrative Services. You can also find my office e-mail address in the state directory, it is c.david.white@state.or.us. By the way, my line is Wm, Wm, Wm, Nathaniel, Barnabus, etc. Any others connected through the third Wm's Nathaniel? Dave White Oregon boda@ix.netcom.com Chase, Meason/Mason, Sherman, Cathers Onstott, Coldiron, White, Culp

Mr C.David White has undertaken to collect contributions for the cost of research into any CHASE armorial Bearings He is an Assistant Director at Oregon State. He will contact the list to inform those that have voluntereed to help with the cost how to do this and the amount, Keith Hume Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

Re: William and Mormanism. Joseph Smith didn't invent Mormanism until 1820.

ALL, Can someone please help. I seem to remember that one of the reasons William left either Roxbury or Yarmouth was because he chose to follow the beliefs of a moman preacher. Has any one got anything on this? I would be grateful for any help, Keith Hume Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

Re the above so far 7 persons have volunteered to contribute towards the research. On this basis I will proceed and will be writing an email to those concerned. The money will be collected in the US and sent to me and I will initiate the research. I do appreciate and fully understand the protocol of who should be allowed to display an armorial but am told by the College of Arms that there would never be an objection of using by any descendant. They did say it is "good form" to state who the armorial was granted to. Keith Hume Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

-----Original Message----- From: Postmaster <Postmaster@email.msn.com> To: gmalane@email.msn.com <gmalane@email.msn.com> Date: Thursday, July 09, 1998 7:09 PM Subject: Nondeliverable mail >------Transcript of session follows ------- >CGASE-L@rootsweb.com >550 <CGASE-L@rootsweb.com>... User unknown > begin 666 Re Berry ChasePhebe Wixon.eml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` ` end

Hello to all, New to the list and thought that I would give you what I have on my lines of CHASE. First Line: Aquila CHASE, b. 1618, d. Dec. 27, 1670 in MA, m. Anne WHEELER (9th Great Grandparents) Aquila CHASE, b. Sept. 26, 1652, d. July 29, 1720 in MA, m. Esther BOND (8th Great Grandparents) Hannah CHASE, b. abt 1687, d. March 9, 1774 in NH, m. Joseph HOYT (7th Great Grandparents) Ann HOYT, b. December 13, 1719 , m. Jeremiah ELLSWORTH (6th Great Grandparents) Samuel ELLSWORTH, b. 1751 in MA, m. Judith LEISTER (5th Great Grandparents) Benjamin ELLSWORTH, b. 1784 in NH, m. Hannah Williams COTTON (4th Great Grandparents) Joseph C. ELLSWORTH, b. 1807 in NH, m. Abigail PECKINPAUGH (3rd Great Grandparents) Hannah ELLSWORTH, b. 1844 in PA, m. Henry COLVIN (Great Great Grandparents) Charles COLVIN, b. 1876 in IN, m. Maud MARTZ (Great Grandparents) Fannie COLVIN, b. 1911 in OH, m. Howard SOULE (Grandparents) (Maternal) 2nd line: Isaac CHASE, b. ?, d. ?, m. Elizabeth BLITHEN (7th Great Grandparents) Waite CHASE, b.?, d.?, m. Francis TRIPP (6th Great Grandparents) Charity TRIPP, b. January 04, 1746/47 in MASS, m. Joseph SOULE (5th Great Grandparents) Joseph SOULE, b. ? m. Rachael ALLEN (4th Great Grandparents) George SOULE, b. 1805 in NY, m. Nellie ELLEN (3rd Great Grandparents) Darwin SOULE, b. 1832 in MI, m. Margret Knight HODGES (2nd Great Grandparents) Franklin SOULE, b. 1877 in IN, , Alice Pearl ICE (Great Grandparents) Howard SOULE, b. 1902 in IN, m. Fannie Colvin (Grandparents) (Maternal) So it looks like Chase inters into my Maternal side from both of her parents. If any of this is familiar to you please e-mail me. Thanks for reading. Always looking for those Cousins. Sharon SharonV45@aol.com

Hi, Holly, Thank you for the Wing information which is most helpful. Here are the children of John Chase, b. 1774 & Dorcas Chase, h/w. John is the son of Nathan CHASE & Abigail MILK. Dorcas is the daughter of John CHASE, b. 1743 & Deborah WING. John & Dorcas's children were: Family #1: 1. Archibald - b. 3 Oct. 1794 2. Deborah - b. 9 Oct. 1795 3. Delight - b. 25 Apr. 1797 4. Harrison - b. 10 July 1798 5. Melinda - b. 22 June 1799 6. Thorga - b. 22 June 1800 7. Arin Orin - b. 4 July 1802 8. Jarah - b. 29 Jun 1806 9. Sidney - b. 22 Aug 1807 10. Sylvia - b. ca 1821/1841 ** This does not appear correct John CHASE & ? Family #2: 1. John 2. Emily I am specifically interested in the John in Family #2, and who the wife and mother was in this 2nd family. Any assistance from the Chase researchers will be most appreciated. Jean Henry .

In a message dated 98-07-03 15:28:00 EDT, you write: << I would be willing to collect US contributions if there is a decision to go forward with the search. Dick Chase >> Hi Dick, I would be pleased to contribute a share. Let me know the amount needed and it will be on the way. Rex Chase

ALL, I have updated the database again today with information that slipped thru the net earlier, Keith Hume Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

ALL, I realise I am possibly mis-using this Group but I could not resist this. It was sent to me by a young 13 year-old CHASE descendant:- Hi all, I received this letter from a wonderful lady, come and sign her = guestbook for her sons birthday!! I am trying to give my stepson a very special birthday gift. I was wondering if you could help. Below is the message I am sending to different people. I would love to have more kids sign my son's 16th = Birthday Guestbook. I would like to invited you to visit my stepson Happy Birthday Page. He = is a child with disabilities and is having a tough time adjusting to them = as a teenager. I only married his dad last August. My husband never had = custody of Adam. However, due to family problems it was felt we could meet his needs better at this time. So in March he moved in. I wanted to give = him a special party but he only has one friend who is away all summer. So I = made him a Birthday web page. It is very family friendly. This was my first attempt. It took a lot of trial and error. I only got = the idea about two weeks ago so I had to work long nights to finish it so = people could sign his guest book. Most important a lot of love for my son went into it. We are trying to get 500 names in his guestbook before his Birthday on = July 16. Adam does not know about this site it is a surprise. I hope this = site will help built his self esteem and know in his heart he is loved. Would you please pass the url for Adam's Party on to all your friends so they can sign too. Thank you for having a caring heart. Ruth Lucas http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/3246 Thanks once again Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

Holly, I have the same information that you have. I do have 14 children by Nathan Chase and Abigail Milk. My information came from the NEHGR but I would have to look up the page. Maxine

I am hoping someone might have some information on the wife of Nathan Chase. I have been working on another line, and got some information on the Milk line and they had no record of Abigail Milk as a daughter of Job Milk and Abigail Davol. I would like to know if anyone has info on Abigail Milk, her date of birth, death, marriage date to Nathan, and who her parents were. Was she a daughter of Job Milk and Abigail Davol? The information I have shows: Nathan Chase b. abt 1723, d, 1806, son of Phineas Chase b. 2/3/1692-3 and Desire Wing b. 2/3/1698-9. His wife, Abigail Milk, b. abt 1722, daughter of Job Milk and Abigail Davol. Is my information correct? If anyone can help with dates and parents for Abigail Milk I would be most appreciative. Thanks in advance for your help. Holly M. Snead

ALL, I am hesitant to say this but all SEEMs OK with the onsite database. I have solved the problem of showing long notes and hope that all the links are OK. The current version is the very latest. I still have a lot more entries to make but will continue as time permits. If you have submitted information to me and do not see it in the databae please let me know, Keith Hume Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

ALL, Having said my problems were over I nopw discover that most of the individuals in the latest update have no links to each other. At the moment I do not know what the problem is but am working on it. I am replacing th present dbase with the previous issue, Keith Hume