ALL, Further to the recent discussion re sending/linking the Chase database with Broderbund and/or Gendex, I would like your views on the concept of making the Database available on-line or in some other way or to continue as we are now. If it is agreed to make the data available in some form some points to consider are :- 1) Should the database be available to anyone who visited the site and freely "Downloadable". (The latest version of the Scripts which generate the data on site can be set up to do this). 2)Send copies on application only mand reserve the right not to allow a copy 3)Restrict availability to those who have contributed to it. 4)Make copies,(gedcoms) of specific parts of the database available, on request. I look forward to your views, Dave White made a valid point when he stated that data such as that on the Chase site is probably not Copyright-able but the format it is presented in may be. I am very confident that the way the CHASE database is on site is not repeated elsewhere on the Internet and therefore could be considered a valid copyright. Something else for you all to consider, Keith Hume
All,Based on most members comments it would appear no one has opposed submitting data to Gendex but most oppose sending to Broderbund. Below Dave White raises a valid point:- "I know the work of genealogical research is never done. But, I worry that >we might rush to publish what we cannot take back if we find it is in >error. Those are my worries. I really haven't come up with anything I >would call answers. How do we decide our data is ready to publish?" With Gendex it is as easy to correct data as on our own CHASE site so I am happy with that. With regrd to publishing our data. In this regard I am really concerned with my own CHASE line data and I only intend to publish for my own families consumption. However, as a Group, if it was decided to write another book on the CHASEs I would be quite happy to submit my own data and any sourcr material. Keith Hume At 19:47 21/08/98 -0700, you wrote: >I was out of town for some of this. I think publishing and posting is a >great way to assure that our findings are perpetuated. There is a strange >opposition to Broderbund that I used to follow on several lists. >Personally, I think it is good to get good data out there in every >possible, permanent format. The copywright only appllies to the format and >alterations Broderbund makes, like inserting estimated dates of birth. > >However, my own data has changed a lot. I keypunched data that I later >found to be invalid. I got a lot of that data from websites and FTM disks. > Now, I am very hesitant to put anything on any site until my confidence in >my sources is very high. Some of the FTM Chase trees combine Chase lines >in very strange combinations. But so do some of the trees I have found at >other sites. > >I know the work of genealogical research is never done. But, I worry that >we might rush to publish what we cannot take back if we find it is in >error. Those are my worries. I really haven't come up with anything I >would call answers. How do we decide our data is ready to publish? > >(I don't refer to the Chase site. I know Keith will make corrections there >as we learn new facts. But most sites continue to publish data in error >forever.) > >Dave White >List Owner for Chase-L Mailing List >E-mail: boda@ix.netcom.com >CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html >To subscribe or unsubscribe from the Chase-L list, send a NEW >e-mail message to: CHASE-L-request@rootsweb.com >or CHASE-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) >with only one word in the body: subscribe > or: unsubscribe > > >---------- >> From: k.hume <khume@netcomuk.co.uk> >> To: CHASE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [CHASE-L] Re: Family Tree >> Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 3:28 PM >> >> ALL, Following responses to my message re World Family Tree and Gendex >it >> would appear that most do not want their information sent to Broderbund. >> >> I agree with that. >> However I do believe that our group would gain more exposure by sending >> submitting our Gedcom to GENDEX. >> I would have to look into this as I believe we would keep the actual >files >> on our own site,(in Gendex compatible format) and the index is kept on >> Gendex file. >> If there are objections I will not continue further as I am not all that >> bothered either way. >> Following is a typical response to queries raised on the subject. >> >> :- >> >> Hi,Rose, >> Have no fears. In the message that popped up onto my screen it said that >> any info provided to them could still be used freely by the person(s) >providing >> such info. >> I find the idea that they can copyright information given to them a >> complete nonsense. If I found info on one of their CDs and found the >> originator who then gave me permission What then? Their claim to >copyright >> of Public Records would be laughed at here in the UK. Our own PRO >encourage >> people to write books based on the records they hold. You do not require >> permission if not for commercial gain. If it is for commercial gain they >> will normally give permission and often give a discount on mass copying >of >> the info needed. >> When I get the chance I am searching thru the records of the evacuation >of >> New York in 1783 ,( Yes my CHASE and HUME ancestors were sLoyalist)and I >get >> copies of the documents that interest me). >> I am responsible for the CHASE site and I am willing to make this clear >on >> the WWW pages if need be.On that basis anything I put there is at my sole >> responsibility although I do not claim factual accuracy as you will see >from >> the introduction to the Database. >> I believe that as a direct descendant of William CHASE no authority on >> earth can stop my right to the records of their Births,Deaths and >marriages. >> I do not know how things work in USA but ANYONE can get a copy of ANYONE >> else's birth,death or marriage certificate in the UK. Its use of the >> information is the restriction and simply publishing the bare info is not >> subject to such restriction >> >> Keith >> At 11:16 21/08/98 -0400, you wrote: >> >Keith >> >I guess I don't understand this whole thing about World Family Tree. Are >you >> >using a FTM format for the web site? I thought through my reading of >their >> >agreement before sending my family tree to WFT a couple of years back, >that >> >the only thing I couldn't do is copy or exchange anyone else's >information >> >they had sent to FTM. I for one intend to call them next week and ask >about >> >this. If this is true, that I can not give my information I had sent to >them >> >to anyone else, that is now on their CD, I am not letting them use any >more >> >information I collect now or in the future. I beleive the information I >> >collected on MY FAMILY is mine and doesn't belong to them. I have no >problem >> >with other people using my information I send to them, as long as they >give >> >me some credit for my long hrs and money spent on it. I have used other >> >distant cousins information, but informed them that I would give them >credit >> >for it on anything I use. >> >What ever you beleive is the best for the group and all the work you put >> >into this CHASE web is ok with me. >> >Just my two cents. >> >Rose from MI >> > >> > >> > >> > >
Hi,Luke, I agree with you. I am confident that Broderbund's interpretation of copyright would have no chance here. You cannot copyright Public Records. Even the PRO here do not attempt to stop people using their info especially for non-commercial reasons. I think Broderbund are a joke. Someone one day will challenge their rights. Have they ever attempted or threatened to sue anyone. I very much doubt it. As for the info in our WWW page I think I will put a CHASE-L Copyright note on it. Then all who belong to the Group could use the info without worry. How can ANYONE copyright Public Records. Maybe the government and if they do how is so many books are written by people using those records. They do not work for or are connected to the Records office. Here in the UK the PRO are only too pleased to help genuine researchers and writers. I have written an extensive research document on the HUME name. Now I can copyright that as it is an original work and does not exist in that form. I am fed up with people trying to copyright everything. Even Cyndi of thefamous lists thought she had a copyright on her WWW pages., Certainly not in this country, Keith Hume See my earlier comments. Keith Hume At 12:45 21/08/98 -0600, you wrote: >Hi Keith, > >Here's my two cents worth. Some day after I retire I will st my mind to >writing our family story. This will include information on Lurie's >CHASE ancestors. I would hate to think that I would not be able to use >some information in that story that originated from your excellent >database, nor information that we provided that is now resident on it, >because Broderbund claims a copyright on it. I've seen lots of >discussion on what exactly their copyright means on the >Genealogy-Computing newsgroup. They claim it would not prevent such a >use. However, although I'm not a lawyer I've taken some legal training >and my job requires me to be an expert in legal interpretation. The >plain meaning of their copyright wording is to me a problem. I would >like to see them change it so that you and I (and others in the same >situation) would not be having this type of discussion. > >Regards, >Luke Huisman > >k.hume wrote: >> >> All, >> While updating the CHASE database I had a message appear on the screen >> informing me that now I had 9,700 persons in the database did I wish to post >> to the World Family Tree. >> As most of you will know Broderbund can use our data on their CDs and claim >> copyright. This of course excludes our particular CHASE data. >> I would like your views regarding this. I know many of you have used >> Broderbund discs and found some useful info. >> While on this subject does anyone object to copying the Chase Database to >> Gendex. I am certainly in favour of this as it costs nothing and gives us >> greater presence on the WWW. >> Keith Hume >> >> Keith Hume, >> email khume@netcomuk.co.uk >> CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html >> http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html >> Kent,England >> Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) >> HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia >> SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) >> SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) >> FALL,(Ireland & Australia) >> BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England) > > Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)
Hello fellow CHASE chasers I have also been unable to reach the site for the last two days. It says that the site is busy, try again later. Is there a problem?? Barry
While on Nantucket this summer, I discovered a discrepancy between my Chase line and the one reported there. According to my great-grandmother's records, Benjamin Chase, Jr. b.1783 possibly in Ghent, NY, m. to Lydia Macy b.1794 in Ghent was the son of Benjamin Chase, Sr. b.1734. d.1826 m. Mehitable Thurston b. 1743. The Barney records in the historical society on Nantucket (btw, they said these records would be online in Sept.) list Ben, Sr. as the son of James Chase and Mary Brown and his wife as Margaret Gardner. The Macy genealogy, however, lists Ben's wife as Mehitable Underwood. Who was Ben Chase, Sr. really married to? Who were his parents? Is anyone out there descended from Ben's grandson, Durfee Chase, b.1829 in Williamson, NY, m. Mary Hubbard, d.1904. Durfee had two children, my great-grandmother Dr. Cornelia Chase Brant and her brother, Norman. I'd like to know what happened to Norman. Does my great-grandmother have any family left? And who were her real great-grandparents? Apparently, the Chase and Macy families were part of one of the 'removals' from Nantucket to Ghent and Hudson, NY at about the time of the Revolutionary War. Please forgive any mistakes I make while trying to get this information out there. I've never done this before. Barb
Gail Bruch: This line of Samuel Chase and Sarah Vose descends from William Chase, the 1600s immigrant. There is a genealogy of this family titled "Some Descendants of William Chase, of Roxbury and Yarmouth Mass" compiled by George Walter Chamberlain and published across several issues of the 1933-1934 New England Historic and Genealogical Society (NEHGS) Register. The currently reprint the article in paperpack form. The article doesn't have the two most recent generations but here is a synopsis of what it does have. Gen 7: John Chase m. Sarh M. Jones, John was the 4th of the 7 children of Gen 6: John of Dartmouth MA b. 6 Sept 1779; m. at Dartmouth, 20 Sept 1798 Hannah Rider, b. at Dartmouth 14 Nov 1782 probably dau. of William and Martha Cummings Rider. John was the 4th of the 8 children of Gen 5: David Chase of Dartmouth born at Swansea MA 7 APR 1744 died 2 AUG 1826. He married Susanna Cornell. David was the 5th child of the 5 children of Samuel Chase and Sarah Vose (Samuel had 3 ch. in a previous marriage to Mary Bourne. Gen 4: Samuel Chase of Swansea b. at Swansea deld 27 Feb 1781. He m. 1st 13 Setp 1716 Mary (Bourne) Vose who died about 1728, daughter Jared and Elizabeth Bourne and widoe of Nicolas Vose; and secondly at Swansea 31 Dec 1730 Sarah Vose. Samuel was the 3rd child of 9 of Jacob Chase and Mary Hall Gen 3: Jacob Chase if Yarmouth and Swansea, born at Yarmouth about 1647 died at Swansea between 11 Jan 1733/34 and 16 Apr 1734. Jacob was the son of William Chase and --- ---; Gen 2 William Chase of Yarmouth b. in England as early as 627 died at Yarmouth 27 Feb 1684/5 He m. 1st about 1644 --- --- and secondly --- ---. It has been said he had 4 ch. by each marriage. Jacob was the 2nd child. The 2nd wife is said to be Elizabeth Holder. Rev. John Eliot in his records at the Roxbury church stated that William came with his parents in 1630 and was ä child of ill qualitys & a sore affliction to his parents". William was 1st of the 3 children of William and Mary (---) Chase. Gen 1. William Chase of Roxbury and Yarmouth MA, carpenter came with his family to Roxbury in 1630. He married in England before 1627 Mary ---.He died at Yarmouth between 4 May 1659 and 13 May 1659. His widow married died there on or before 6 Oct 1659. Steve Barrett
Hi Group, Does anybody know what happened to the CHASE Family Resource Center at http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html I've been unable to connect to the site. Maybe the site is down. Has anybody been able to contact them in the last couple of days??. Maxine
Hi group, Well, I have been busy! My fiancé and I are moving from the San Francisco area to the St. Louis, MO area next week! I have accepted a position at Monsanto Corporation, and start on September 8th. Then, we get married on the 19th! Anyway, we will be off-line for a while, and I will be 'unsubscribing' to this list during that time. In the mean time, we have a temporary web page at: http://members.xoom.com/kissdman/ And a temporary email of matthew_chase@bigfoot.com . Sorry to have made you all read this, but I have been in contact with many of you, and don't wish you to have to email and get user not found messages. I'll be back! Sincerely, Matthew Chase -- Have a Nice Day! Matt and Lisa Chase matthew_chase@bigfoot.com http://members.xoom.com/kissdman
Does anyone recognize this Chase line: Hannah Louise Chase David T. Chase- Cynthia Ann Rogers John Chase Jr.- Sarah Jones John Chase- Hannah Rider David Chase- Susannah Cornell Samuel Chase- Sarah Vose Anyone who has information on this line please contact me.
I was out of town for some of this. I think publishing and posting is a great way to assure that our findings are perpetuated. There is a strange opposition to Broderbund that I used to follow on several lists. Personally, I think it is good to get good data out there in every possible, permanent format. The copywright only appllies to the format and alterations Broderbund makes, like inserting estimated dates of birth. However, my own data has changed a lot. I keypunched data that I later found to be invalid. I got a lot of that data from websites and FTM disks. Now, I am very hesitant to put anything on any site until my confidence in my sources is very high. Some of the FTM Chase trees combine Chase lines in very strange combinations. But so do some of the trees I have found at other sites. I know the work of genealogical research is never done. But, I worry that we might rush to publish what we cannot take back if we find it is in error. Those are my worries. I really haven't come up with anything I would call answers. How do we decide our data is ready to publish? (I don't refer to the Chase site. I know Keith will make corrections there as we learn new facts. But most sites continue to publish data in error forever.) Dave White List Owner for Chase-L Mailing List E-mail: boda@ix.netcom.com CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html To subscribe or unsubscribe from the Chase-L list, send a NEW e-mail message to: CHASE-L-request@rootsweb.com or CHASE-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) with only one word in the body: subscribe or: unsubscribe ---------- > From: k.hume <khume@netcomuk.co.uk> > To: CHASE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CHASE-L] Re: Family Tree > Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 3:28 PM > > ALL, Following responses to my message re World Family Tree and Gendex it > would appear that most do not want their information sent to Broderbund. > > I agree with that. > However I do believe that our group would gain more exposure by sending > submitting our Gedcom to GENDEX. > I would have to look into this as I believe we would keep the actual files > on our own site,(in Gendex compatible format) and the index is kept on > Gendex file. > If there are objections I will not continue further as I am not all that > bothered either way. > Following is a typical response to queries raised on the subject. > > :- > > Hi,Rose, > Have no fears. In the message that popped up onto my screen it said that > any info provided to them could still be used freely by the person(s) providing > such info. > I find the idea that they can copyright information given to them a > complete nonsense. If I found info on one of their CDs and found the > originator who then gave me permission What then? Their claim to copyright > of Public Records would be laughed at here in the UK. Our own PRO encourage > people to write books based on the records they hold. You do not require > permission if not for commercial gain. If it is for commercial gain they > will normally give permission and often give a discount on mass copying of > the info needed. > When I get the chance I am searching thru the records of the evacuation of > New York in 1783 ,( Yes my CHASE and HUME ancestors were sLoyalist)and I get > copies of the documents that interest me). > I am responsible for the CHASE site and I am willing to make this clear on > the WWW pages if need be.On that basis anything I put there is at my sole > responsibility although I do not claim factual accuracy as you will see from > the introduction to the Database. > I believe that as a direct descendant of William CHASE no authority on > earth can stop my right to the records of their Births,Deaths and marriages. > I do not know how things work in USA but ANYONE can get a copy of ANYONE > else's birth,death or marriage certificate in the UK. Its use of the > information is the restriction and simply publishing the bare info is not > subject to such restriction > > Keith > At 11:16 21/08/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Keith > >I guess I don't understand this whole thing about World Family Tree. Are you > >using a FTM format for the web site? I thought through my reading of their > >agreement before sending my family tree to WFT a couple of years back, that > >the only thing I couldn't do is copy or exchange anyone else's information > >they had sent to FTM. I for one intend to call them next week and ask about > >this. If this is true, that I can not give my information I had sent to them > >to anyone else, that is now on their CD, I am not letting them use any more > >information I collect now or in the future. I beleive the information I > >collected on MY FAMILY is mine and doesn't belong to them. I have no problem > >with other people using my information I send to them, as long as they give > >me some credit for my long hrs and money spent on it. I have used other > >distant cousins information, but informed them that I would give them credit > >for it on anything I use. > >What ever you beleive is the best for the group and all the work you put > >into this CHASE web is ok with me. > >Just my two cents. > >Rose from MI > > > > > > >
Please try the unsubscribe instuctions below. Let me know if your unsubscribe fails for any reason and I will try it from here. Dave White List Owner for Chase-L Mailing List E-mail: boda@ix.netcom.com CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html To subscribe or unsubscribe from the Chase-L list, send a NEW e-mail message to: CHASE-L-request@rootsweb.com or CHASE-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) with only one word in the body: subscribe or: unsubscribe ---------- > From: rosser <rosserbe@muohio.edu> > To: CHASE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CHASE-L] Re: subscribe > Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 1:06 PM > > Please remove my e-mail address from your list. It is a mistake that > this e-mail address was used. > Thank You >
Sheila, I think it's okay for you to send your info. to FTM; I've submitted before. My point was that I thought as a group, the info. should be submitted by the individuals, if they so desired. My concerns were that not all people on the list would feel comfortable with it and might shy away from sending their info. to the Chase pages if it was being sent to FTM. There is a lot of controversy there. I really enjoy FTM products, but do worry about the copyright bit. I don't want to be prevented from someday publishing research I've slaved to get because I sent info to them. I think the Gendex submission is a great idea, however. Hope this helps. D
Just found out that a copy of my great grandfather's naturalization papers are available from the agency listed below. For me this is most exciting as his name was Joseph Smith. (A few thousand of those floating around) Having his date of application and date issued was of course of great help. I also knew that he had gone to Prince Edward Island as a nine year old. Now if only the parents names are on the papers His daughter Jane Matilda Smith married my grandfather Gilbert Padleford Chase in San Fransisco. Subj: Re: App. for U.S. Citizenship -Reply- Reply Date: 98-08-21 19:07:24 EDT From: archives@sanbruno.nara.gov (NAB San Bruno) To: PurrsPaws@aol.com This automated response acknowledges receipt of your inquiry about services and holdings of the National Archives - Pacific Region (NRHS) in San Bruno, CA. If not already stated in the original request, please provide your NAME, POSTAL MAILING ADDRESS, and TELEPHONE NUMBER. E-mail inquiries, like inquiries by regular mail and fax, are answered in the order in which we receive them. You will receive a full response as soon as possible. NATIONAL ARCHIVES - PACIFIC REGION (NRHS) 1000 COMMODORE DR SAN BRUNO CA 94066-2350 Voice: (650) 876-9009 Fax: (650) 876-9233 Hours: Historical (Textual) Reference - please call to schedule an appointment Monday - Friday, 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM Genealogical (Microfilm) Reference Monday - Friday, 7:30 AM to 4:00 PM In addition, Wednesday evenings, 4:00 PM to 8:00 PM Additional electronic information available at http://www.nara.gov Priscilla Chase Marchbanks purrspaws@aol.com
Group, I believe that Gendex would be a good idea. I have family tree maker for my genealogy software and they keep asking me to send it to them Everytime I reach a new 100 individuals. I will not send this information onto them if anyone feels that I should not. Let me know. Sheila sapeel@sprynet.com
I also think submitting to Gendex would be a good thing to do. D
ALL, Following responses to my message re World Family Tree and Gendex it would appear that most do not want their information sent to Broderbund. I agree with that. However I do believe that our group would gain more exposure by sending submitting our Gedcom to GENDEX. I would have to look into this as I believe we would keep the actual files on our own site,(in Gendex compatible format) and the index is kept on Gendex file. If there are objections I will not continue further as I am not all that bothered either way. Following is a typical response to queries raised on the subject. :- Hi,Rose, Have no fears. In the message that popped up onto my screen it said that any info provided to them could still be used freely by the person(s) providing such info. I find the idea that they can copyright information given to them a complete nonsense. If I found info on one of their CDs and found the originator who then gave me permission What then? Their claim to copyright of Public Records would be laughed at here in the UK. Our own PRO encourage people to write books based on the records they hold. You do not require permission if not for commercial gain. If it is for commercial gain they will normally give permission and often give a discount on mass copying of the info needed. When I get the chance I am searching thru the records of the evacuation of New York in 1783 ,( Yes my CHASE and HUME ancestors were sLoyalist)and I get copies of the documents that interest me). I am responsible for the CHASE site and I am willing to make this clear on the WWW pages if need be.On that basis anything I put there is at my sole responsibility although I do not claim factual accuracy as you will see from the introduction to the Database. I believe that as a direct descendant of William CHASE no authority on earth can stop my right to the records of their Births,Deaths and marriages. I do not know how things work in USA but ANYONE can get a copy of ANYONE else's birth,death or marriage certificate in the UK. Its use of the information is the restriction and simply publishing the bare info is not subject to such restriction Keith At 11:16 21/08/98 -0400, you wrote: >Keith >I guess I don't understand this whole thing about World Family Tree. Are you >using a FTM format for the web site? I thought through my reading of their >agreement before sending my family tree to WFT a couple of years back, that >the only thing I couldn't do is copy or exchange anyone else's information >they had sent to FTM. I for one intend to call them next week and ask about >this. If this is true, that I can not give my information I had sent to them >to anyone else, that is now on their CD, I am not letting them use any more >information I collect now or in the future. I beleive the information I >collected on MY FAMILY is mine and doesn't belong to them. I have no problem >with other people using my information I send to them, as long as they give >me some credit for my long hrs and money spent on it. I have used other >distant cousins information, but informed them that I would give them credit >for it on anything I use. >What ever you beleive is the best for the group and all the work you put >into this CHASE web is ok with me. >Just my two cents. >Rose from MI > > >
Please remove my e-mail address from your list. It is a mistake that this e-mail address was used. Thank You
I am obviously quite OK with putting the whole CHASE tree on Gendex since I already have the Chase (and related spouse) lines that I have developed posted on that site and will be adding to it as I progress. I am not entirely sure I understand everyone's perceptions about the issues that are involved with contributions to Broderbund, but clearly their copyright has no bearing on your own use of your own material. I think a copyright problem does arise, thought, with respect to any individual contributing material to them that has in turn been copied from others. You can't own what you never did own.
Keith, I hope I'm not too late to give you my opinion. Gendex would be fine with me but not Borderbund CDs. Joan
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B74AC5B81AC5F64F44DBA18B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's the note I sent to Keith, which I forgot to also send to the group. --------------B74AC5B81AC5F64F44DBA18B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <35DDC047.5E5CBC44@compusmart.ab.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 12:45:27 -0600 From: Luke and Lurie Huisman <lhuisman@compusmart.ab.ca> Reply-To: lhuisman@compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "k.hume" <khume@netcomuk.co.uk> Subject: Re: [CHASE-L] World Family Tree References: <199808210752.IAA24688@avalon.netcom.net.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Keith, Here's my two cents worth. Some day after I retire I will st my mind to writing our family story. This will include information on Lurie's CHASE ancestors. I would hate to think that I would not be able to use some information in that story that originated from your excellent database, nor information that we provided that is now resident on it, because Broderbund claims a copyright on it. I've seen lots of discussion on what exactly their copyright means on the Genealogy-Computing newsgroup. They claim it would not prevent such a use. However, although I'm not a lawyer I've taken some legal training and my job requires me to be an expert in legal interpretation. The plain meaning of their copyright wording is to me a problem. I would like to see them change it so that you and I (and others in the same situation) would not be having this type of discussion. Regards, Luke Huisman k.hume wrote: > > All, > While updating the CHASE database I had a message appear on the screen > informing me that now I had 9,700 persons in the database did I wish to post > to the World Family Tree. > As most of you will know Broderbund can use our data on their CDs and claim > copyright. This of course excludes our particular CHASE data. > I would like your views regarding this. I know many of you have used > Broderbund discs and found some useful info. > While on this subject does anyone object to copying the Chase Database to > Gendex. I am certainly in favour of this as it costs nothing and gives us > greater presence on the WWW. > Keith Hume > > Keith Hume, > email khume@netcomuk.co.uk > CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html > http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html > Kent,England > Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) > HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia > SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) > SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) > FALL,(Ireland & Australia) > BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England) --------------B74AC5B81AC5F64F44DBA18B--