To all those who have contributed donations towards the cost of research into Chase Armorial Bearings and Pedigree(s), I received a letter from the College of Arms, the following 1) is a transcript, and also a copy of 2) my email response to it. 1) "Dear Mr. Hume, Chase of Essex I wish to confirm receipt of your letter dated 29th August with its enclosed cheque for £120 for research to be carried out at the College of Arms into the official records of Arms granted and pedigrees recorded for CHASE of Essex and surrounding counties This work is now being put in hand and we will provide you with a report on our findings in due course. >To: ykherald@globalnet.co.uk >From: "k.hume" <khume@netcomuk.co.uk> >Subject: Re CHASE- Your letter of 3 Sept. > > 2) From K.N.Hume,-re CHASE. Dear Sir, Further to your letter of 3rd. September last, I note your comment regarding research of Arms granted and pedigrees recorded for CHASE of Essex and surrounding counties. My understanding was that your research would apply to all your records. My letter of the 29th. August last stated, Quote :- "Further to your letter of 30 June last I wish to proceed with the research for any information regarding the name CHASE. My original enquiry was in regard to The CHASE families believed to have lived in the Essex area and nearby counties. Further information suggests that there may have been a CHASE living in Cornwall or Wales who may have been granted Armorial Bearings. This information is passed to you from what I know however I would not wish the research to be confined to those areas alone." -: Unquote Can you please confirm that your research will be as I have requested. I also asked for some indication of the time span this work would take. I do appreciate that this could be somewhat variable but some comment on this would be appreciated, Yours sincerely K.N. Hume Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

Hi all, Quick note: I am back online, and my new email is ml_chase@swbell.net . Also, I would like to hear back from anyone with Chase lines which came to NY. My line came to NY when Henry Chase came to Little Valley, NY in Catauragus County between 1815 and 1820, and the Chases in my line have been in New York ever since. Thanks, Matt Chase -- Have a Nice Day! Matt and Lisa Chase ml_chase@swbell.net

Hi,Lonnie, Thank you very much for sending onthe article to me. I think the author of the article sums the problem up very nicely and supports the view that a FACT cannot be copyrighted only the way it is presented. It is also accepted here by Government archives, as I have said, that provided there is no commercial gain involved they positively encourage copying of records. Even where gain is involved they also tend to encourage the use of their records to write or compile an original work especially if you offer it to them for sale in their bookshops. WHEN I get the time I intend to write a book about the end of the War of Independence and in particular the evacuation fro New York. The PRO here have massive original records and in my preliminary research have been most helpful, Keith Hume At 14:04 02/09/98 -0600, you wrote: > >This is taken from another list. Youall may find it interesting. > > > >As a writer, I certainly support concern about copying >copyrighted material. As a researcher, I appreciate the information >shared in the hope of getting even more information. > >If we are going to talk about copyright, I think it is important to say a >lot more. > >1. One sure way to avoid even the suspicion of copyright infringement is >to Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

If anyone has copyright questions, you might find the answers here. http://www.rootsweb.com/~bwo/bwocwp.html#policy

This is taken from another list. Youall may find it interesting. As a writer, I certainly support concern about copying copyrighted material. As a researcher, I appreciate the information shared in the hope of getting even more information. If we are going to talk about copyright, I think it is important to say a lot more. 1. One sure way to avoid even the suspicion of copyright infringement is to paraphrase what is published in the book. Facts cannot be copyrighted. The form in which they are presented is copyrighted. Books of compiled public records are copyrighted for the way the words are put together. As long as you don't copy word for word you won't violate the writer's/publisher's rights. I know it is tempting, because it is easier to just type than to think about what is being said. Researchers also try to be as accurate to the original as possible, but in this case you can risk losing a small detail to avoid upsetting a delicate balance of rights. 2. This point is a little fuzzier, but there is something called fair use that may protect the "copier." Fair use is not exactly defined in the copyright law. The guidelines include: --considering the purpose of "copying." Whether it is for commercial or educational use would be considered during prosecution. --looking at the nature of the copyrighted work. There is a difference between a poem and a compilation of public records. --comparing the amount of copied material to the entirety of the work. Copying two dozen entries from a work with fifty entries is substantially different from copying that number from a work with hundreds, if not thousands, of entries. --evaluating the effect of copying on the potential market and value of the original work. For every person researching Colbys who now doesn't need to buy the book, there could be a person researching a Colby spouse who decides he wants to buy the book to see who else is listed. Copyright issues are so important to writers, publishers, researchers and the general public, we all need to understand the rules. Writers and publishers need to protect their investments of time and money to gather and share information. At the same time, researchers and the public need to be able to share what they learn from copyrighted material for that information to be meaningful to them.

I am looking for information and living relatives of one of the most interesting relatives I have read and heard stories about ---Frank Ambrose Chase. He was born to Moses and Sarah (Ives) Chase in Bristol Township near Sun Prairie, WI 24 May 1866 and grew up in Sun Prairie. He married Belle Kanouse, 3 Sept 1890 and then moved to Viroqua, WI for a couple of years and then off to Spokane,WA. He had three children by Belle ---Jesse, Keith (Riley), & Jennie (they all lived in the Spokane area). Belle died 19 Jan 1898. Frank's second marriage was to Zelda Clay (when I'm not sure) and they had a daugther, Margaret (who married a Robert Younger; the Younger's had three children, Ann [a helicopter pilot in the San Francisco area], Judy [ had a ballet studio in Los Angles], and Keith [an actor on Broadway]). I don't know what happened to Zelda Clay, but Frank married a third time. His third wife was Nora Woodrift and they had one child, Sally. Frank's list of occupations is as impressive as his list of marriages. Raised as a Wisconsin farmboy, when he moved West he became a wood scout, timber jack, miner, quarryman, a merchant, real estate dealer, justice of the peace, postmaster, civil service commissioner, and a member of the Washington State Senate. He wrote a textbook on economics, and was a lecturer in 1921-22 in MO, KS, OK, and AR; and a radio conselor on the subjects of investments and home financing in the mid-1930's on station WIOD in Miami, FL. In 1932, he was director of the Federal Home Loan Bank, Winston-Salem, NC. In June 1933 he was called to Washington, DC by Pres Roosevelt to assist in setting up federal savings and loan associations. He was president of Chase Federal Savings & Loan, Miami from 1937-1939. He died in Miami, 16 Apr 1939, and his ashes were buried in Greenwood Cemetery, Spokane, WA. He was a 33rd degree Mason; and an honorary member of the Supreme Council A and A, Scottish Rite for the Southern Jurisdiction of the U.S. Does anyone know about Frank Ambrose Chase and any of his relatives, if so please e-mail me at: chase@twt.com Thanks.

I'm seeking info on origins of Thomas Casesar CHASE, b. NY, m. Dorcas SHIPMAN b. Renssalear Co., NY. Dau. Delana Caroline CHASE m. Dana Fox CASE 1847 in PA, both d. in IA. Does Thomas tie in to anyone's family? Thanks. Pam

Shirl10e@aol.com posted this message: I am a great Granddaughter of Julia Crawford Foote, Nee Chase, father was Edward Chase owner of the Tower Bluff Mansion on Broadway, I would appreciate any information, thank you I invited her to supply more information in the hope that someone connected to her line. Here is the added info she sent. Any connections? Dave White ---------- > From: Shirl10e@aol.com > To: boda@ix.netcom.com > Subject: Re: Chase Genealogy > Date: Saturday, August 29, 1998 9:31 AM > > I have records going back quite far in the Chase genealogy, apparently I am > descended from William Chase and his wife Mary who came to America in 1630, > and line continues, from his son William #2, thru his son Samuel and wife > Sarah Sherman, their son John, who married Lydia Luther, through son John > married, Elizabeth Baker, their son Luther B. Nov. 12, 1778, married Sarah > Davis 1-26-1812, and their 3rd son, Edward born 3-4-1824 my great-great > grandfather, married Eliza Wood Alden (a direct descendant from John Alden) m. > 4-21-1847, through their daughter Julia Crawford Chase, b. Feb. 7, l857 who > married Emerson Lee Foote in 1887. Edward Chase left Falls River Mass, iin > 1847 where they moved to St. Louis and he worked at the St. Louis Clearing > House. and built a large mansion, Tower Bluff Mansion on Broadway, which was > torn down in 1967 to allow the new 1-55 Highway to be built.

David & ALL, Thank you to the 11 of you who contributed. Please NO MORE contributions at the moment please!! I am not sure just how much in Sterling you have transfered, Dave, as it is a Holiday Week-End here but $170 equates to about 106 Pounds and I have not contributed myself yet. Last Saturday I sent the following letter to the College of Arms:- College of Arms, Queen Victoria St., London EC4V 4BT Dear Sir, Chase Armorial Bearings. Further to your letter of 30 June last I wish to proceed with the research for any information regarding the name CHASE. My original enquiry was in regard to The CHASE families believed to have lived in the Essex area and nearby counties. Further information suggests that there may have been a CHASE living in Cornwall or Wales who may have been granted Armorial Bearings. This information is passed to you from what I know however I would not wish the research to be confined to those areas alone. I enclose a cheque for £120 as requested in your letter. As I am acting not only on my own behalf but also of a world wide group of family historians I would be pleased if you could advise me of some idea of the time scale involved to complete this work, yours sincerely, K.N.HUME At 18:08 30/08/98 -0700, you wrote: >There is room for one more. Send $20 to: > >C. David White >820 Sand Piper Ct NE >Salem OR 97301 > >Your contribution will make eleven of us in the states who are >participating. I will send your mailing address to Keith when your funds >arrive. I believe that will the stateside contribution $220 less the $30 >transfer fee. > >Dave White >List Owner for Chase-L Mailing List >E-mail: boda@ix.netcom.com >CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html >To subscribe or unsubscribe from the Chase-L list, send a NEW >e-mail message to: CHASE-L-request@rootsweb.com >or CHASE-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) >with only one word in the body:    subscribe >                                         or:     unsubscribe > > >---------- >> From: John Morrissey <searchn@gte.net> >> To: boda@ix.netcom.com >> Cc: khume@netcomuk.co.uk >> Subject: Transfer fees >> Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 1:23 PM >> >> Hello Dave & Keith, >> If you will let me know where to do this, I will send you a check for >the transfer fee's. It will be my part in this great adventure. >> I have been gone, and have only been back a short while. My younger >sister is terminal and very sick. The chemo makes it even worse. But I am >home now and want to help with this project as well.. >> >> Addie > >

I joined this list hoping to find information on a 3g uncle of mine. Obediah CHASE m. Minerva Herd MERRITT (b. 1831 Grainger Co., TN, dtr of Edward MERRITT and Sarah CARDEN MERRITT) 17 Nov 1850 in Grainger Co., TN. According to an affidavit filed by Minerva's brothers Lewis MERRITT and Ancil Lee MERRITT in 1876 (found in their father Edward MERRITT's War of 1812 pension file), Minerva and Obediah had two daughters and four sons (names and dates not given). In 1876 Minerva resided in Doniphan Co., KS. Obediah "enlisted in Capt. Thomas Co. D old 13th or 25th Missouri Vols commanded by Col. Peabody. Is said to have been killed in 1863 on the H. & St. Joseph R.R. between Hanibal and St. Joseph by Bill Anderson's band of rebel bushwhackers." The 1880 Doniphan Co., KS census lists "Miranda" CHASE 42 in Burr Oak Twp. Both she and her parents were b. in TN. She is found with her son Louis F. CHASE 15 b. KS, his parents b. in TN. Allowing for the usual census discrepancies, this may be Minerva and a son she was carrying at Obediah's death. I have not located the CHASEs in the 1860 census yet, nor have I found Obediah in a CHASE family in TN in 1850. I am sending for Obediah's Civil War pension file, but in the meantime, I'd like to hear from anyone who might recognize the family. I have a lot of material on the MERRITTs, but nothing on Obediah's parents or children. Thanks! Victoria Sullivan vlsulliv@jps.net

Hi All! Hope Joan is feeling better -- not a nice way to end your summer :( I had this information from another list-serve: for information on Vermont cemetaries to contat www.together.net/~btrutor/voca/vocahome.htm I haven't checked the site so I would appreciate knowing how successful you are. I have 2-generation info on Chases in Northfield, Vermont but have been a while since I sat in this list-serve, where are we with what info is being submitted? Darcy Chase Hoisington CHASE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > > CHASE-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 185 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [CHASE-L] Chase Cemetery Records [JoanA914@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from CHASE-D, send a message to > > CHASE-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CHASE-L] Chase Cemetery Records > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 21:31:23 EDT > From: JoanA914@aol.com > To: CHASE-L@rootsweb.com > > Good evening cousins, > > I apologize for not getting back to you sooner but I'm recovering from a mild > case of food poisoning and haven't been checking my e-mails for the past > couple of days. Feel free to e-mail cemetery records (remember, every one > counts) if that is easier for you or you can mail them to > > Joan Gerrits > 4505 Romlon Street > #203 > Beltsville, Maryland 20705

Keith, Which state are you referring to here? Each state has a depository / archives where data is also kept. Illinois IRAD for instance has four of them depending on which section of the state your researching. Most records are kept at the county level, again time frame plays a big factor there. The National Archives aka NARA has military, census, emigration records there. Addie At 04:22 AM 8/27/98 EDT, DerrU@aol.com wrote: >Keith, as far as I know, birth, marriage and death records are kept at the >court house in the county in which they occur. I don't believe there is any >national archive for these records. US census records are held, I believe, by >the US census bureau, and states that did additional census records are held >by that state. If anyone knows differently, feel free to correct me on this. > >Sue > >

This is the correspondence rec. from the Archives Bureau in San Bruno CA. They found my Joe Smith. Hope this will help someone researching in that area. Subj: Re: App. for U.S. Citizenship -Reply- Reply Date: 98-08-21 19:07:24 EDT From: archives@sanbruno.nara.gov (NAB San Bruno) To: PurrsPaws@aol.com This automated response acknowledges receipt of your inquiry about services and holdings of the National Archives - Pacific Region (NRHS) in San Bruno, CA. If not already stated in the original request, please provide your NAME, POSTAL MAILING ADDRESS, and TELEPHONE NUMBER. E-mail inquiries, like inquiries by regular mail and fax, are answered in the order in which we receive them. You will receive a full response as soon as possible. NATIONAL ARCHIVES - PACIFIC REGION (NRHS) 1000 COMMODORE DR SAN BRUNO CA 94066-2350 Voice: (650) 876-9009 Fax: (650) 876-9233 Hours: Historical (Textual) Reference - please call to schedule an appointment Monday - Friday, 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM Genealogical (Microfilm) Reference Monday - Friday, 7:30 AM to 4:00 PM In addition, Wednesday evenings, 4:00 PM to 8:00 PM Additional electronic information available at http://www.nara.gov ****************************************************************************** ******************* Subj: App. for U.S. Citizenship -Reply Date: 98-08-21 12:38:39 EDT From: archives@sanbruno.nara.gov (NAB San Bruno) To: PurrsPaws@aol.com August 17,1998 <PurrsPaws@aol.com> Dear Ms. Marchbanks: This responds to your letter of August 11,1998, which we received on August 8,1998 requesting copy of the Petition for Naturalization for Joseph Smith. NARA's Pacific Region (San Francisco) holds some naturalization records transferred from Federal courts in northern California, Hawaii, and Nevada. These naturalization records were originated by U.S. district and circuit courts in Honolulu, Reno, Sacramento, and San Francisco. In addition to these Federal court records, we hold naturalization records of two Nevada state courts, the First District Court of Nevada at Fallon (Churchill County) and the Second District Court of Nevada at Reno (Washoe County), and one California county court, the Marin County Superior Court. Our records document naturalization transactions performed during the specified time periods in the following courts: District Court, Northern District of California (San Francisco), 1851-1971 Circuit Court, Northern District of California (San Francisco), 1855-1911 District Court, Eastern District of California (Sacramento), 1917-1958 District Court, District of Hawaii, 1900-1995 District Court, District of Nevada, 1868-1929 (microfilm only) State Court, First District, Churchill County, Fallon, Nevada, 1877-1956 State Court, Second District, Washoe County, Reno, Nevada, 1853-1949 Superior Court, Marin County, California, 1871-1957 A search was conducted of the San Francisco Naturalization Index and a record was found for Joseph Smith. If you would like a copy of this document, please be advised that because your order is less than 20 pages, there is a minimun fee for mail-order reproduction applies. Please make your check or money order of $10.00 payable to the *National Archives Trust Fund*. When you mail your payment to us, please specify the identifying copy order. Sincerely, Gloria C. Legaspi Archives Technician Archival Operation Staff .

Would anyone know if the U.S.has a Government Records Archive similar to Canada and United Kingdom or are the records of births,deaths and marriages also censuses kept at State Archives? Keith Hume Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)

I hope you all won't flame me, but I really messed up. Am writing this to let everyone who has sent information for either the Chase or Tuscola pages to me in the last month to know that I lost ALL my e-mail, including information submitted for the pages. I don't know how I could be so stupid. I apologize and ask everyone who has sent info. to please send it to me again. I will NOT lose it again. It is for either the Chase or Tuscola pages. Apologies and deep embarrassment. Debbie axtman@premier1.net

Keith, as far as I know, birth, marriage and death records are kept at the court house in the county in which they occur. I don't believe there is any national archive for these records. US census records are held, I believe, by the US census bureau, and states that did additional census records are held by that state. If anyone knows differently, feel free to correct me on this. Sue

Yes, Keith, we do greatly appreciate all you do for the group. We'd be as they say in the schools here, "Dead Meat" without you. D

I think you do a great service Keith. You are the soul of the list. Besides, what kind of family would we be if we never dissagreed on anything? ---------- > From: k.hume <khume@netcomuk.co.uk> > To: CHASE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CHASE-L] Re: Broderbund > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 11:43 PM > > ALL, > I do seem to have started something. However I do believe some people may > be straying from the issue. I asked the Group's opinion about submitting the > Chase database to Broderbund. From my point of view if ONE person only, who > has contributed data to the Database, objects then that is it I would not > send it. (snip)

Should the need ever arise again, I will check with our post office, too. (However, for me this is the first time in 52 years. So, I probably won't call them tomorrow.) The whole process has been really interesting and the search hasn't even started! ---------- > From: k.hume <khume@netcomuk.co.uk> > To: C D White <boda@ix.netcom.com> > Cc: CHASE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CHASE-L] Coat of Arms > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 11:43 PM > > Hi,Dave, > Thanks for the info. I will check with the Bank tomorrow,(Wednesday) and > get moving on this. > $30 for a transfer. It is about the same here but we now have a postal one > which is 7 pounds about $11, > Keith Hume > At 20:27 24/08/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Hello Chase-folk: > > > >Just to keep you up to date, I wired the search funds to Keith Hume today. > >The exchange rate should be about 1.6925 to the dollar when the wire goes > >out in the morning. The fee was $30 !!! Bank of America said it is the > >wire fee, regardless of the amount wired. I took $15 from the $200 and > >tossed in the other $15 so something would still end up in Keith's account. > > I am happy not to be routinely engaged in international finance. (Though, > >if we do something like this again, I would probably serve.) > > > >Keith has the ten contributor's names and addresses. Thanks to all. And > >here is hoping we get some new information. > > > >Dave White > >List Owner for Chase-L Mailing List > >E-mail: boda@ix.netcom.com > >CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html > >To subscribe or unsubscribe from the Chase-L list, send a NEW > >e-mail message to: CHASE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >or CHASE-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) > >with only one word in the body:    subscribe > >                                         or:     unsubscribe > > > > > > >

ALL, I do seem to have started something. However I do believe some people may be straying from the issue. I asked the Group's opinion about submitting the Chase database to Broderbund. From my point of view if ONE person only, who has contributed data to the Database, objects then that is it I would not send it. It is obvious that those who want to send their data to Broderbund are free to do so. One thing has been made clear to me and that is that there appear to be some who do not understand the wording of Broderbund's Copyright statement and have been concerned that if they gave their data to Broderbund then they, the contributor, would not be able to use it, for publication, in the future. That is not so and Broderbund, I think, make this clear in statements they make. My views on Broderbund's Copyright are well known but I would be seriously concerned if data I contributed turned up on one of their CD's without my permission. I have taken the trouble to ensure I can identify my own data where ever it appears. This concern has nothing to do with me protecting that data. It has everything to do with someone claiming ANY type of right or restriction on it and for Broderbund to say they would restrict the use of MY information, to ANYONE, without my permission,I find distasteful. I was however prepared to go along with it if no one else objected Keith Hume Keith Hume, email khume@netcomuk.co.uk CHASE-L Website at:- http://www.surnameweb.org/centers/c/chase/index.html http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~khume/home.html Kent,England Researching:- HULME,DAWSON,(In Lancs.) HUME,McKAY, (In New Brunswick & Nova Scotia SHERMAN,SIMMONS,HATHAWAY AND CHASE,(In USA & Canada) SHERRING & BLUNDEN (Hampshire,England) FALL,(Ireland & Australia) BUTCHER,PAYNE/PAINE,BURCKITT(Bedfordshire,England)