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    1. [CHANDLER] Re: John Chandler Jamestown, Virginia
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iUI.2ACIB/1993.3 Message Board Post: I need some further assistance from other John Chandler and Lupo family researchers, please. John Chandler b. abt 1600, England (some think abt. 1599-exact date of birth unknown to me and I have seen no documentation that proves the exact date of birth.) d. Hampton, Elizabeth City Co., Virginia This is the John Chandler who arrived in Jamestowne, Virginia; "At the age of 9, John arrived in Virginia on 6 June 1610, landing at Jamestown on Sunday June 10th.", aboard the ship "Hercules of Rye" from London, England. (Of whom, there is controversy over in regards to his relationship with Thomas Willoughby/Willoby pertaining to his servitude/servant-indentured as shown in the "Muster of the Inhabitants of Virginia" at Elizabeth Cittie-also referenced in other places.) I am reviewing some GedCom files sent to me by several Chandler researchers. I have noticed in several of the files, that some researchers believe that John Chandler may have been married previously before his marriage to: Elizabeth --?-- (maiden name unknown to me-I have seen no documentation that verifies her maiden name-she was married previously to Albiano Lupo and is frequently referred to as "The Widow Lupo") I also need assistance with the Lupo line. The following is copied from the English - America website: "Lupo, Phillip . . . . . . . . . 42 Arrived on the George in 1621 Willoby, Thomas . . . . . . . . 23 Ensign Arrived on the Prosporouse in 1610 Chaundler, John . . . . . . . . 24 (Servant) Arrived on the Hercules in 1610 Lupo, Albiano . . . . . . . . . 40 Leiueten: (Lieutenant) Arrived on the Swan in 1610 June, 1610 The Swan, from London, arrived at Virginia Lupo, Albiano (Lt.) . . . -- Age 40 in Virginia Muster, February 7, 1624/5 Arrived on the George in 1616 Lupo, Elizabeth. . . . . . . . 28 Lupo, Temperance . . . . . . . . 4 Born in Virginia" (incorrectly listed 1608, 1609, and 1611 in some sources) Were Phillip and Albiano Lupo related, if so how? The following is copied from a file that was shared with me: "Land transactions suggest that John Chandler's "now wife Elizabeth" of 1636 was the widow Elizabeth Lupo. This would account for his rise in fortune, and his acquisition of the Lupo land which was held by his son in 1683 and thereafter. It may be that "now wife Elizabeth" was John Chandler's second wife, a first wife having died between 1626-1636." Other files refer to a possible first wife, but I felt this would give the example best and their reasoning for the above statement. This is not stated as a fact, merely a suggestion/hypothesis. Does anyone know of a first wife? If so, what was her name, DOB, DOD, places, etc., please? Were there any children by this marriage? I would appreciate it if anyone would share information with me in regards to this or at least tell me where I might find supporting evidence, such as some type of historical record-census, muster, etc. to document the above-proving or disproving the suggestion. I am also curious about the spelling variations of John Chandler/Chaundler's name and would like more information in this area as to the differences in spelling. Thank you.

    02/21/2004 04:10:55
    1. Re: [CHANDLER] Re: John Chandler Jamestown, Virginia
    2. Dick Chandler
    3. Hi there I can comment on that part of your message which reads "I am also curious about the spelling variations of John Chandler/Chaundler's name and would like more information in this area as to the differences in spelling." The name Chaundler is rare in modern times - there is a well-known authoress of children's books named Christine Chaundler - but back before 1700 the name occurred in England more frequently, and some people (like your John) were recorded by both names at different times in their life. Back even further, the variant "le Chaundler" or "le Chaundeler" appears, indicating a French (Norman) origin. This does NOT mean that all Chandlers are French in origin, as most bearers of the name Chandler are descendants of people who were chandlers (merchants) by trade. Even today, the surname Chandler is pronounced differently in southern England from the way it is said in North America. The American way of saying the name sounds as if it is spelled Chaaaandler, whereas in southern England the long "a" is not used, and the short "a" makes it sound more like Chaundler. Best wishes Dick Chandler in Salmon Arm, British Columbia, Canada --- Outgoing mail is checked by AVG anti-virus software. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.592 / Virus Database: 375 - Release Date: 19-02-04

    02/21/2004 06:35:01