This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iUI.2ACIB/1933 Message Board Post: List/message board members, thank you for your emails of support and encouragement. I do need to clarify or at least make a statement regarding a previous post. I was unaware that in posting a message with a family line that you are working on, that you are required to download your entire GEDCOM files with all of your sources posted as well. I have not seen where anyone else, amateur or professional genealogist, including CFA and affiliates have had to give that much information, just to make a post or query. For the record, I just posted the Chandler line that I am working on. I am not stating that it is fact, it is just a work in progress, as I stated. Some of it has been documented from various sources, that at this time I do not feel that I am required to divulge in order to make a post/query to a message board/list. I just gave one example of a source and that was really in an effort to help others. Please, this is just what I am working on, if you use it, use it as a guideline with your own research proving or disproving it, document and verify ! everything. If you are able to document and verify anything I share with anyone, regardless of whether it is through personal emails or message boards/lists, I do not care if you quote my personal material verbatim, I do ask that if you quote any material that comes under copyright laws to please respect the copyrighted material. I, also, was not aware that in order for me to post a query/message that it was required or necessary for me to submit my formal education information and/or private or professional information. This message is not meant to be evaluated by any member of the CFA nor am I asking for/nor require any assistance or response from any member of the CFA or affiliates of said association. I did, however, discover an error in my previous posting to the list/message board regarding the ship "Hercules of Rye", the link to website did not post. I proofed/edited my message, but was unable to tell the link would not post. The material I posted about the "Hercules of Rye" was information obtained off the internet and had links that did not post as a link. (For the record, I do have the same information obtained from other credible sources than the internet acceptable to organizations such as the DAR and other such known organizations that I do not feel necessary to name.) Example of the error: Julian, William . . . -- Age 43 in Virginia Muster, February 7, 1624/5 Chaundler, John . . . -- Age 24 in Virginia Muster, February 7, 1624/5 Booth, Reynold . . .. -- Age 32 in Virginia Muster, February 7, 1624/5 Where it says "in Virginia Muster", should have been a link to click on, but for some unknown reason it did not post that way. I was also trying to show where other researchers could find more information regarding the ship Hercules and passenger lists, I am going to re-post the links If it does not post as a link again, I have put the website address as the link, so you can copy and paste it. If anyone has difficulty accessing the link, just email me and I will send you an email with the links or send you the page by email. There is an interesting link to an archaeological site about Jamestown not necessarily about the Chandler line, some fascinating information, maps, photos, etc., more for historical purposes. They have found what they believe to be the Jamestown Fort and even show pictures of artifacts found during digs. http://www.ministrytoday.org/family/belyea/ships/ships-london/passengers-london.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eusgenweb/va/vafiles.htm Click on the various counties , then use the Ctrl F function, type the name Chandler in. (or any other name that you are interested in the Virginia counties) Or you can search the entire site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/vasearch.htm you can just type in the surname of Chandler http://www.apva.org/jr.html This is an example of what you can find. This transcribed version gives the same information as the original. "Education in Colonial Virginia: Part I, Poor Children and Orphans; 1897 William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine, Vol. 5, No. 4. (Apr., 1897), pp. 219-223. ELIZABETH CITY COUNTY, July 18, 1698. - Ann Chandler, orphan of Daniel Chandler, bound apprentice to Phyllemon Miller till 18 or day of marriage, to be taught to read a chapter in the Bible, ye Lord's prayer, and ten commandments, and sempstress work." I am in the process of searching for more passenger lists of the ships, that I will share when I find them. I know that at the Ellis Island site, you can view copies of the original documents. So there has to be a similar site for the Jamestown port, I just haven't found it, yet. If necessary, I will just obtain copies of the original documents from London. In my opinion, which is probably wrong according to the said standards of some, a microfilmed copy of an original document used to make a copy via the internet is the same as obtaining a copy of an original document by contacting the agency/place who has possession of the original (probably microfilmed) and procuring a copy. However, I do prefer to look at copies of the original as opposed to transcribed versions. I have found mistakes in the transcribed versions. An example of such a mistake is a transcribed 1920 Lamar County, Tx. Census record (of which I have a copy of the original census record). The transcribed version has my grandfather's name as "Clyburn, Lou Dr." when in fact the original has "Clyburn, Dr. Lon". The original is correct. ( I am aware this example has nothing to do with the Chandler line, it is just stating an example of an error.) The following links to the BLM, The Library of Congress, questia The World's Largest Online Library, are good places to search as well. http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ http://www.loc.gov/ http://www.questia.com/Index.jsp?CRID=virginian_history&OFFID=se1 These are some other website to research or ask for assistance: http://www.archives.gov/welcome/index.html http://www.clanfraser.ca/muster.htm http://www.drtl.org/ http://www.libraries.rutgers.edu/rul/rr_gateway/research_guides/history/history.shtml Also, for "amateur" researchers in the state of Texas, you can go to your local library and get a library card if you do not have one. After you receive the library card, you can ask for a password and ID to access TexShare online via your home PC and internet. Once you have the password and ID, only available to my knowledge through your local Texas library, go to History & Genealogy. From that you can access microfilmed copies of census records, books, publications, etc. A valuable tool for "amateur" genealogists. Ancestry.com has the same thing called Heritage Quest that you have to pay a monthly/annual fee for. This same program, plus more, is available through your local library for free. I am sorry, I do not know if it is available in other states than Texas. The only thing I can suggest is to contact your local library to see what programs they might have available. I would really like to be able to discuss some of these things with other "amateur" researchers (again I am not asking for assistance nor the opinion of/from any member of the CFA) without belittling other's work or dismissing other's opinions, just to be able discuss with amateur researchers views/thoughts/hypothesis on things like the Lupo's on separate passenger lists. Barbara Chandler