This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Maynard, Shaw, Chandler, Womack, King, Cole Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iUI.2ACIB/1949.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: All I can tell you is what I 've been told. My GGgrandfather John Bethel(Bothel) was born in Dec. 27, 1855 in Va. Don't know the county or town.His mother died soon after he was born. He went to live with his Granny Nancy James and George JAmes. They are on the 1850 Census of Meck. co. They moved to Carroll Co. Tenn. around 1856 or little later . They are on the 1860's Carroll Co. Census. I was told by another emailer that his father's name was William Chandler . William's parents are suppose to be Joel and Hannah (Davis). of Virginia. William 's nickname was Sandy, This was told me by a woman who said her husband was a direct descendant of George James (Woodell). There was also another son called Joseph. We believe a daughter Elizabeth raised by the Isaac Martin Family was also a sister. She shows up in the 1870;s Carroll Co. Census living with John Chandler and his family. A wife and son George L. Chandler. I know nothing of John Bethel's life except where my mother tells ! me this: John B. went to work on the Russell farm. He met Viola Russell . HE was 33 and she was 16 when they got married. Her parents were against the marriage but they were married anyway. They were married in Limestone Co. Ala. They met in Wales Tenn. Wales fits in somewhere but don't remember exactly. They lived in Ala for several years. They had Nettie in 1894 and Maggie the next year I think. Henry Louis was born sometime either in Ala. or in Texas. Rose Etta was born in Paris, Texas along with Solon in 1908. There was a Roise who died when he was in his teens and Royce Edgar Chandler was born in Hillsbora Texas. I'm sorry but my papers are packed. Maggie married a David Land from Limestone Al. Nettie Ann married a Marvin Wallace Womack.Ala. Rose Etta married a Maynard Ala. Shaw_Tex. Henry Louis married a Sally Ann Riley Tex Solon married a Tine Cole Tex Royce married a Ann Matthews.Tex I did find a Tn. William Chandler whose parents are Joel and HAnnah David Chandler. They were born in Va. William in Tennesse. That could account for not being able to find him. The source said he was married to a Anna Stone. I haven't been able to locate anything to compare this to. John and Viola moved to Hillsbora , Texas where they had Royce Edgar , and later moved to Pettus, Texas in Bee Co. Texas. They lived there and are in the 1830 Census. Also in 1920 Census of Lamar Co. I believe the older Chandler's could have been from North Carolina. Joel Chandler's parents were David Jr. and Millie Vaughn. When Rose Etta was about 4 either in Ala. or Paris, Texas, she said a lady and a boy around 6 with a cousin came to see them. She was married to John's father and told him that the boy was Robert Cleveland Samuel Chandler. He was born in Fannin Co. HoneyGrove in Nov, 6, 1885. Robert later came to live with them when he was around 16 while they were living in the Paris area. They lived just outside of Paris in some small town. Holland or Howland. ?It's listed on my Solon's birth certificate. He lived with them till he married Viola's cousin Gertrude. Her parents lived in the Valley and ran a grocery store. I'm sorry I can't give you a clearer picture. Hope this might help. I'll get my paper out and look up the exact dates soon. I would love to find out more about my Grandpa Solon's father's people . I often thought that was why they moved to Texas to be closer to his family. I don't know. He might have been married before he married Viola and had children . Thank you, B! ertha