In a message dated 7/4/2005 11:38:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, donnal@vvm.com writes: Hi Dave, Send for your Dad's original social security application. Make sure it is the original. It should list his parents names. Donna Hi ! Donna, Thanks much. I have that. It list his father as John J. Chandler, mother's maiden name unknown. Marriage application states his father as A. J. Chandler, so there is a conflict there. Dave Chandler - _Famsource@aol.com_ (mailto:Famsource@aol.com)