I have paid close attention to the discussion about William and Annis Chandler. My Chandler gggrandfather, Martin Chandler, lived in Shrewsbury Township in Monmouth County, New Jersey, and is listed in Stillwell's Genealogical and Historical Miscellany, Vol V, p.332 as Unlocated Chandlers, somehow related to the William and Annis Chandler family. These Chandlers are: Martin Chandler, b. around 1842, m. Samantha White and had a number of children: Minnie, August, Lafayette, Frank, David, Martin, Addison, Evan, Etta and Charlotte, etc. I would love to find Martin's parents.

Good suggestions on including sources, Arleen, but you'll find that most of them are the materials you send in your response to my in inquiry. You give The 1883 Chandler book, and the Roxbury VR's, and the History of the First Church of Roxbury as sources of the Jan. 19 1641/42 death date, but attribute to two of the same sources the June 19 burial date. Five months between death and burial are difficult to accept. Savage, Vol. I, p. 359, says he was buried on January 24,1642. As to the variety of names for Annis, the Roxbury VR death notice calls her Annis; the Hist of the First Church of Roxbury refers to her as Hannah. Torrey has three listing for her marriages. In the one to William Chandler she is called Ann?/Annis?/Anmer?/Hannah [Alcock?], 1603-1683? In the entry for her marriage to John Dane she is called Agnes/Annis/Ann/Hannah (Bayford) CHANDLER. In the entry for her John Parmenter marriage she is Ann/Amis (Bayford) (Chandler) Dane. The History of Woodstock CT Genealogies is quoted as calling her Annis Hooker, sister of the Rev. Thomas Hooker and widow of George Alcock. Torrey does give a marriage of George Alcock and Anne Hooker, but says that she died either 1629, 1630, or 1631. The Virkus Compendium (a notoriusly unreliable source, but sometimes right) says the wife of William Chandler was Annie or Agnes Bayford daughter of Francis. Savage says she was Annis or Hannah (no surname given). The Article Genealogical Research in England, Ancestry of William Chandler of Roxbury, Mass. is perhaps the most reliable source of information, and it gives her name as Annis (or Agnes or Ann) daughter of Francis and Johan Bayford. It also gives four generations of Chandlers prior to William! Note: I have had her in my records for some 40 years Annis (Agnes) Bayford, but have been uncomfortable with all the other information floating around. Having just reviewed all this, I feel better! Bert

Hi Can someone check "The Chandler Family: the Descendants of William and Annis Chandler who Settled in Roxbury, Mass. 1637? I would like to know if there is a listing for a David Chandler b. circa 1779 in VT or NH. Thanks Homer Thiel Tucson, AZ

Here is the ancestry of Annis (Agnes) BAYFORD as given in _Genalogical Research in England: The Bayford Family_, by G. Andrews Moriarty; New England Historical and Genealogical Register, July 1942. Incidentally, one of my CHANDLER "cousins" visited the church in Bishop's Stortford few years ago, and the organist was named BAYFORD! Descendants of Richard Bayford 1 Richard BAYFORD b: Abt. 1535 in of Farnham, Essex, England d: Bef. 15 May 1599 in Farnham, Essex, England . +Joan SEARLE b: Unknown d: Aft. 15 May 1599 Father: Mother: m: 10 Apr 1564 in Farnham, Essex, England ...2 William BAYFORD b: Abt. 1565 d: Aft. 15 May 1599 ...2 Francis BAYFORD b: Abt. 1567 d: Bef. 3 Dec 1622 ....... +Johan ? b: Unknown d: Aft. 3 Dec 1622 Father: Mother: ........3 Richard BAYFORD b: Abt. 1600 in Farnham, Essex, England d: Aft. 1614 ........3 Annis BAYFORD b: Abt. 1603 in Farnham, Essex, England d: 1637 in Roxbury, Suffolk Co., MA ............ +William CHANDLER b: Abt. 1595 in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire, England d: 26 Nov 1641 in Roxbury, Suffolk Co., MA Father: Henry Chandler Mother: Anne ? m: 6 Nov 1625 in Farnham, Essex, England ........3 John BAYFORD b: Abt. 1605 in Farnham, Essex, England d: Aft. 9 Jun 1614 ...2 Thomas BAYFORD b: Abt. 1569 d: Unknown ...2 Mary BAYFORD b: Abt. 1572 d: Aft. 15 May 1599 ...2 Elizabeth BAYFORD b: Abt. 1575 d: Aft. 15 May 1599

Does anyone have a Phebe or Phoebe Chandler in their lines. I am just getting started on that line and dont really have any info at this time. Thanks Dawn [email protected]

Bert, Basically your answer is: Yes, Capt. Thomas of Andover m. Hannah Brewer is the son of Wm & Agnes "Annis" Bayford. and Yes, This Thomas is the brother of Hannah who married George Abbot III. An interesting source is: "Salem Witchcraft and Hawthorne's House of Seven Gables" Enders A. Robinson, Heritage Books, Inc, Bowie MD 1992 Also: "The Town of Roxbury: It's Memorable Persons and Places. Frances S.Drake, pub. by the author, 131 Warren St., 1878 and: "History of the Town of Waitsfield, VT 1782-1908 with family genealogies"" Matt Bushnell Jones. George E. Littlefield, Boston, MA 1909. That said... Does anyone have the ancestry of Agnes Bayford? Steve Kraus [email protected]

I believe that Thomas CHANDLER who married Hannah BREWER was Hannah CHANDLER's brother. Here is what I have for that family. I have more and would be happy to share. Good Hunting and let me know if this does not get to you in a reasonable format. Alice Descendants of William Chandler 1 [1] William Chandler b: Oct 12, 1595d: Nov 26, 1641+Alice Thorgood ...... 2 Elizabeth Chandler b: January 10, 1622/23 d: Sept 30, 1636 ...... 2 Sarah Chandler b: December 19, 1624 d: Jan19, 1626/27 *2nd Wife of [1] William Chandler: . +Agnes Bayford b: June 12, 1603 m: Nov16, 1625 d: March 15, 1682/83 ...... 2 [3] Hannah Chandler b: May 22, 1630 d: June 02, 1711 .......... +George Abbott b: June 14, 1615m: Dec12, 1646 d: December 24, 1681 .............. 3 John Abbott b: March 02, 1647/48 d: March 19, 1720/21 .................. +Sarah Barker m: Nov 17, 1673 .............. 3 Joseph Abbott b: March 11, 1648/49 d: June 24, 1650 .............. 3 Hannah Abbott b: June 09, 1650 .................. +John Chandler m: December 20, 1676 .............. 3 Joseph Abbott b: March 30, 1652 d: April 08, 1676 .............. 3 George Abbott b: June 07, 1655 .................. +Dorcas Graves m: April 17, 1668 .............. 3 William Abbott b: November 18, 1657 d: October 24, 1713 .................. +Elizabeth Geary m: June 19, 1682 .............. 3 [2] Sarah Abbott b: November 14, 1659 .................. +Ephraim Stevens m: October 11, 1680 .............. *2nd Husband of [2] Sarah Abbott: .................. +Ephraim Stevens b: Abt. 1649 m: Oct 11, 1680 d: June 15, 1718 .............. 3 Benjamin Abbott b: Dec 20, 1661 d: March 30, 1703 .................. +Sarah Farnum b: June 14, 1661m: April 22, 1685 d: Bef. 1726 .............. 3 Timothy Abbott b: November 17, 1663 d: September 09, 1730 .................. +Hannah Graves m: December 27, 1689 .............. 3 Thomas Abbott b: May 06, 1666 d: April 28, 1728 .................. +Hannah Gray m: December 07, 1697 .............. 3 Edward Abbott b: Aft. 1667 .............. 3 Nathaniel Abbott b: July 04, 1671 d: December 01, 1749 .................. +Dorcas Hibbert m: October 22, 1695 .............. 3 Elizabeth Abbott b: February 09, 1672/73 d: May 04, 1750 ..................+Nathan Stevensb: April 05, 1665 m: Oct 24, 1692 d: Sept 25, 1740 ...... *2nd Husband of [3] Hannah Chandler: .......... +Francis Dane b: November 20, 1615 m: 1690 d: Feb 17, 1696/97 ...... 2 Thomas Chandler b: August 09, 1628 d: Bef. Feb 08, 1702/03 .......... +Hannah Brewer ...... 2 Henry Chandler b: August 13, 1632 ...... 2 John Chandler b: July 27, 1634 d: April 15, 1703 .......... +Elizabeth Douglas m: February 16, 1658/59 ...... 2 William Chandler b: March 26, 1627 d: November 27, 1633 ...... 2 Sarah Chandler

Hi, is anyone researching this line? 1. Thomas Chandler (no dates) + Sarah Brewer (nd) 2. Sarah Chandler b. 20 Dec 1661 d. 5 Apr 1757 + m. Mar 1682 Samuel Phelps b. 1651 Newbury, MA d.? 3. Hannah Phelps (no dates) + John Fletcher ANY info would be GREATLY APPRECITATED! Sara Gredler [email protected]

I am in search of information on Swigler CHANDLER. He is the father of Dora May CHANDLER, b. Dec. 23, 1867 in IL, d. Feb. 14, 1904. I have no information on Swigler and would appreciate any information anyone may have. Lesa Karwoski [email protected]

Bert, Why don't you list your sources so we will have some idea where you found this info. Arleen [email protected] At 01:46 PM 11/30/97 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks to those who reponded to my inquiry. > >Things get "curiouser and curiouser". > >Reviewing several sources, this is what I find on William Chandler: > >He was born 1595, and died either 19 Jan. 1641/2 or 19 June 1641 > >He married 1st Alice Thorogood (or Thurgood) in 1621. > >He married second 6 Nov 1625 Ann/Annie/Agnes/Anmer/Annis/Hannah whose >surname was either Bayford (daughter of Francis) or it was Hooker (sister >of the Rev. Thomas Hooker and widow of George Alcock). >Ann/Annie/Agnes/Anmer/Annis/Hannah Chandler married second (or 3rd), 2 July >1643, John Dane; and third (or 4th), 1660, John Parmenter. She died 15 >Mar.,1683. > >Among children were Thomas who married Hannah Brewer; and Hannah who >married 1st, George Abbott and 2nd, Francis Dane (of Salem witch trial >fame). > >At least I got my questioned answered: Thomas was the son of the second not >the first marriage. > >Now, would someone please tell me what we REALLY know? > >Help! > >Bert > >

Thanks to those who reponded to my inquiry. Things get "curiouser and curiouser". Reviewing several sources, this is what I find on William Chandler: He was born 1595, and died either 19 Jan. 1641/2 or 19 June 1641 He married 1st Alice Thorogood (or Thurgood) in 1621. He married second 6 Nov 1625 Ann/Annie/Agnes/Anmer/Annis/Hannah whose surname was either Bayford (daughter of Francis) or it was Hooker (sister of the Rev. Thomas Hooker and widow of George Alcock). Ann/Annie/Agnes/Anmer/Annis/Hannah Chandler married second (or 3rd), 2 July 1643, John Dane; and third (or 4th), 1660, John Parmenter. She died 15 Mar.,1683. Among children were Thomas who married Hannah Brewer; and Hannah who married 1st, George Abbott and 2nd, Francis Dane (of Salem witch trial fame). At least I got my questioned answered: Thomas was the son of the second not the first marriage. Now, would someone please tell me what we REALLY know? Help! Bert

Is anyone familiar with these Chandler's? These are some of my son-in-law's family and as far as I know these are all from the Kaufman County area of Texas. This is all the information his mother was able to provide on Chandler's. She is a Broumley and I have some information on her family also if you have a connection. Descendants of CLYDE LEE CHANDLER 0 CLYDE LEE CHANDLER +PEARL MAE GODWIN Father: Mother: 1 JUANITA CHANDLER +WELDON DAVIS Father: Mother: 2 DANNY BRUCE DAVIS 2 SHARON ELAINE DAVIS 1 IVA LEE CHANDLER +VIRGIL GARDNER Father: Mother: 2 ROGER DALE GARDNER 1 J. W. CHANDLER 1 L. C. CHANDLER 1935 - 1977 b: March 05, 1935 Henderson County, Texas, USA d: July 10, 1977 Dallas, Dallas County, Texas, USA +SHARON SUE BROUMLEY 1939 - b: January 29, 1939 North Bowie Com., Kaufman County, Texas, USA m: March 25, 1954 Kaufman, Kaufman, Texas, USA Father: EARNEST LESLIE BROUMLEY Mother: FAYE CATHERINE PETERS 2 DEBRA YVONNE CHANDLER 1955 - b: February 26, 1955 Kaufman, Kaufman County, Texas, USA 2 DANIEL GLENN CHANDLER 1956 - b: April 28, 1956 OAK CLIFF, Dallas, Texas, USA 2 RICKY DEAN CHANDLER 1958 - b: March 09, 1958 Kaufman, Kaufman County, Texas, USA +DIXIE NICOLE KRAUS 1963 - b: September 24, 1963 St.Benoist-La-F, Indre-et-Loire, France, France m: May 19, 1984 Kemp, Kaufman, Texas, USA 75143 Father: FRANK RICHARD KRAUS Mother: EDDIA EARLYNN FISCHER 3 JUSTIN KYLE CHANDLER 1990 - b: June 10, 1990 Dallas, Dallas, Texas, USA 2 MARK STEPHEN CHANDLER 1962 - b: July 31, 1962 Dallas, Dallas, Texas, USA Eddia Keyser [email protected]

Bert Smith and All CHANDLER Cousins -- Thomas CHANDLER of Andover, MA, who married Hannah BREWER is the son of William CHANDLER and Annis BAYFORD, and he is the brother of Hannah CHANDLER who married George Abbot. My sources on these are: 1. George Chandler, _The Chandler Family: the Descendants of William and Annis Chandler Who Settled in Roxbury, Mass. 1637_ (Worcester, MA: Press of Charles Hamilton, 1883) 2. Genealogical Research in England: Ancestry of William Chandler of Roxbury, Mass., by G. Andrews Moriarty; New England Historical and Genealogical Register, April 1931. I would be interested in any information sources that indicate the contrary, as I am descended from Thomas of Andover and his wife Hannah. Susan Molye <[email protected]>

Can anyone tell me whether the Thomas Chandler of Andover MASS who married Hannah Brewer is the son of William Chandler and Agnes Bayford or William Chandler and Alice Thorogood(Thurgood)? Is this Thomas the brother of Hannah Chandler who married married George Abbott? I am descended from both of them by reason of the marriage of Edward Abbott and Dorcas Chandler. There seems to be a great deal of incomplete and contradictory information out there. Does anyone have immigration information on these early Chandlers? Bertram Taft Smith (Bert)

Thought I would update people on my recent Chandler discovery. My ancestor William A. CHANDLER was b. in 1817 in Genesee County. Over the last three weeks I have received information that indicates his parents were David CHANDLER b. ca. 1779 VT- d. 1827 Lockport, Genesee Co., NY) and Comfort GILMAN (b. 1785- d. between 1850 and 1860, prob Lenawee Co., MI). After David's death, Comfort was married in 1840 in Royalton, Niagara Co., NY to Felix HOLDRIDGE. The 1820 and 1830 census suggest David and Comfort had ten children. I have been able to identify four: 1. Eliza B. b. 1816 2. William A. b. 1817 3. Miranda b. 1825 4. Samuel Does anyone have info on this family or on David's ancestors? Homer Thiel 3975 N. Tucson Blvd. Tucson, AZ 85716

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I am searching for information on and parents of Swigler CHANDLER. His Daughter, Dora May CHANDLER was my g Grandmother- b. Dec. 23, 1867 in IL d. Feb. 14, 1904 in an unknow loc. m. Andy Anderson MC CORMACK. . Her siblings were Hattie, Lula, Mittie, Lidi, Nenna, Hulda and Nellie. Any info. would be appreciated. Lesa [email protected]

In a message dated 97-11-01 09:21:17 EST, you write: << I'm new to this list and hadn't heard of the Chandler Family Association. Is this open to all Chandlers or just a particular branch? Also, what are the benefits of joining? James, See the web page-- www.angelfire.com/biz/chandler/

In a message dated 97-11-01 10:34:26 EST, you write: << I'm new to this list and hadn't heard of the Chandler Family Association. Is this open to all Chandlers or just a particular branch? Also, what are the benefits of joining? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ See the web page-- www.angelfire.com/biz/chandler/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^