Hi Arla, Can you exhibit your baskets if you do not say they are "authentic" Indian made? The 1970 arts and crafts Act says that a person can not exhibit their products as authentic Native American made without a card from a Federally Recognized "OR" State Recognized Indian Tribe. You can still say you made them, and you are Indian, you just can't advertize them as "authentic". I know a lot of vendors in OK. who do this. Of course there are some juried shows that only allow people who have a CDIB card to exhibit, probably like the one at Mesa Verde. I would love to see some of your baskets! :) I bought all the supplies to make horsehair baskets, but Lord knows when I will ever find the time to give it a try. haha Markie At 04:35 PM 05/24/1980 PDT, you wrote: > I too, as of this date am not a card carrying Indian.The only time I was ever asked is when someone asked if I would like to exhibit my baskets at a pow wow and I can't here in Oklahoma without a card. > There are still shows I can do that are classified Native American and Nature. I had a Navajo ask me to exhibit at Mesa Verde and all they wanted was some kind of document stating that I was Indian. > If we are not fullbloods we have another part that needs to be honored and descrimination comes in all colors.When you go to a pow wow here everyone talks and is sociable and couldn't care less if you are a card carrying Indian.No one asks how much Indian are you. > In all my life I have only had two times when I was looked at as less,by another Indian.I wasn't as dark so evidently I wasn't Indian. I would say that wasn't an Indian thing on their part but a personal issue they hadn't dealt with within themselves. > I have to address my white side as well as my Indian side. My husband in his infinite wisdom helps me to remember that. We were at Tushkahoma reading some old articles about trading between Choctaw Basketweavers and farmers. My husbands family were big farmers in MS. I asked my husband if he thought my family had traded with his family? He looked at me and said Arla,your family probably traded with each other. > Yes I would love to have a CDIB card.I may never, but card or not I want to be who I am and honor all parts of myself.I want to learn all I can about my heritage.For centuries there was only oral history.If that is all I am to have on my family then I will continue to pass that history to my children and grandchildren. > I have learned much from these Choctaw lists and plan to learn more. >Chi Holloli Arla > > > >> >> Thank you, you hit the nail on the head! You are exactly correct. As a >> "non card carrying" Indian myself, who hangs out with.. from full bloods >> all the way down to a little bit of blood.... and from many different >> tribes... some are elders on the council of their tribes. I have always >> been treated with respect for who I am, not my blood quantum. Not once >> have I been asked "do you have a CDIB card?"... not once have I been asked >> "how much blood are you?"... nor.. "are you a real Indian?" You're right >> when you say you can spot someone who has been watching to many movies! > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >Home Page: >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm >Choctaw Chat: >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > > >

I exhibit my baskets at a lot of shows John and I do.What I was told I could do as far as talking about my heritage was to say that I have Native American Ancestory.I can't label them Native American made but I can say I have an Indian Ancestory. There are a lot of pow wows I would like to do but can't exhibit anything, because of no CDIB.Although I have been invited to a few I would do a lot more if I could. John and I also make cedar feather fan boxes for regalia and also do a lot of antler art plus other things. I have a picture I can send in a jpg. of my baskets. Horsehair baskets,lordy,lordy woman are you adventurous.I have done some horsehair weaving and talk about time consuming! I do use horsehair to decorate some of my baskets and have some patterns for horsehair baskets but haven't done them yet.Time would be the key. Arla ---------- > Hi Arla, > > Can you exhibit your baskets if you do not say they are "authentic" Indian > made? The 1970 arts and crafts Act says that a person can not exhibit > their products as authentic Native American made without a card from a > Federally Recognized "OR" State Recognized Indian Tribe. You can still > say you made them, and you are Indian, you just can't advertize them as > "authentic". I know a lot of vendors in OK. who do this. Of course > there are some juried shows that only allow people who have a CDIB card to > exhibit, probably like the one at Mesa Verde. > > I would love to see some of your baskets! :) I bought all the supplies to > make horsehair baskets, but Lord knows when I will ever find the time to > give it a try. haha > > Markie > > At 04:35 PM 05/24/1980 PDT, you wrote: > > I too, as of this date am not a card carrying Indian.The only time I was > ever asked is when someone asked if I would like to exhibit my baskets at > a pow wow and I can't here in Oklahoma without a card. > > There are still shows I can do that are classified Native American and > Nature. I had a Navajo ask me to exhibit at Mesa Verde and all they wanted > was some kind of document stating that I was Indian. > > If we are not fullbloods we have another part that needs to be honored > and descrimination comes in all colors.When you go to a pow wow here > everyone talks and is sociable and couldn't care less if you are a card > carrying Indian.No one asks how much Indian are you. > > In all my life I have only had two times when I was looked at as less,by > another Indian.I wasn't as dark so evidently I wasn't Indian. I would say > that wasn't an Indian thing on their part but a personal issue they hadn't > dealt with within themselves. > > I have to address my white side as well as my Indian side. My husband > in his infinite wisdom helps me to remember that. We were at Tushkahoma > reading some old articles about trading between Choctaw Basketweavers and > farmers. My husbands family were big farmers in MS. I asked my husband if > he thought my family had traded with his family? He looked at me and said > Arla,your family probably traded with each other. > > Yes I would love to have a CDIB card.I may never, but card or not I > want to be who I am and honor all parts of myself.I want to learn all I can > about my heritage.For centuries there was only oral history.If that is all > I am to have on my family then I will continue to pass that history to my > children and grandchildren. > > I have learned much from these Choctaw lists and plan to learn more. > >Chi Holloli Arla > > > > > > > >> > >> Thank you, you hit the nail on the head! You are exactly correct. As a > >> "non card carrying" Indian myself, who hangs out with.. from full bloods > >> all the way down to a little bit of blood.... and from many different > >> tribes... some are elders on the council of their tribes. I have always > >> been treated with respect for who I am, not my blood quantum. Not once > >> have I been asked "do you have a CDIB card?"... not once have I been asked > >> "how much blood are you?"... nor.. "are you a real Indian?" You're right > >> when you say you can spot someone who has been watching to many movies! > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > >Home Page: > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > >Choctaw Chat: > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > Choctaw Chat: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > >

Hi Arla, Here's a suggestion that friends of mine who are Blackfoot do, they put "replica of" on their labels and many of their products have been bought by musuems and that is the best way I have heard of. Tiffany ----- Original Message ----- From: "Markie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Arts and Crafts Act > Hi Arla, > > Can you exhibit your baskets if you do not say they are "authentic" Indian > made? The 1970 arts and crafts Act says that a person can not exhibit > their products as authentic Native American made without a card from a > Federally Recognized "OR" State Recognized Indian Tribe. You can still > say you made them, and you are Indian, you just can't advertize them as > "authentic". I know a lot of vendors in OK. who do this. Of course > there are some juried shows that only allow people who have a CDIB card to > exhibit, probably like the one at Mesa Verde. > > I would love to see some of your baskets! :) I bought all the supplies to > make horsehair baskets, but Lord knows when I will ever find the time to > give it a try. haha > > Markie > > At 04:35 PM 05/24/1980 PDT, you wrote: > > I too, as of this date am not a card carrying Indian.The only time I was > ever asked is when someone asked if I would like to exhibit my baskets at > a pow wow and I can't here in Oklahoma without a card. > > There are still shows I can do that are classified Native American and > Nature. I had a Navajo ask me to exhibit at Mesa Verde and all they wanted > was some kind of document stating that I was Indian. > > If we are not fullbloods we have another part that needs to be honored > and descrimination comes in all colors.When you go to a pow wow here > everyone talks and is sociable and couldn't care less if you are a card > carrying Indian.No one asks how much Indian are you. > > In all my life I have only had two times when I was looked at as less,by > another Indian.I wasn't as dark so evidently I wasn't Indian. I would say > that wasn't an Indian thing on their part but a personal issue they hadn't > dealt with within themselves. > > I have to address my white side as well as my Indian side. My husband > in his infinite wisdom helps me to remember that. We were at Tushkahoma > reading some old articles about trading between Choctaw Basketweavers and > farmers. My husbands family were big farmers in MS. I asked my husband if > he thought my family had traded with his family? He looked at me and said > Arla,your family probably traded with each other. > > Yes I would love to have a CDIB card.I may never, but card or not I > want to be who I am and honor all parts of myself.I want to learn all I can > about my heritage.For centuries there was only oral history.If that is all > I am to have on my family then I will continue to pass that history to my > children and grandchildren. > > I have learned much from these Choctaw lists and plan to learn more. > >Chi Holloli Arla > > > > > > > >> > >> Thank you, you hit the nail on the head! You are exactly correct. As a > >> "non card carrying" Indian myself, who hangs out with.. from full bloods > >> all the way down to a little bit of blood.... and from many different > >> tribes... some are elders on the council of their tribes. I have always > >> been treated with respect for who I am, not my blood quantum. Not once > >> have I been asked "do you have a CDIB card?"... not once have I been asked > >> "how much blood are you?"... nor.. "are you a real Indian?" You're right > >> when you say you can spot someone who has been watching to many movies! > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > >Home Page: > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > >Choctaw Chat: > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > Choctaw Chat: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm >