Hi all, Like some others unless theres a miracle or my stubborn persistent digging comes up with the right info (u.s.government approved) in black & white none of my family will ever get THE CARD. Okay, I can live with that. Like Markie, I think I have made my way without it thus far. It would be the icing on the cake if I ever find what I need to get it, but it can't change who my ancestors were & that fact that they have always told us we were of Choctaw & Creek descent. I will always be sure to keep telling the same to my nephew & nieces as my granny told to us. I will not let them forget where we come from as they certainly will not learn it in their schools. Like Arla, I have my white ancestors too, & I won't forget them either .... I mean look at the good hearts & sense the had to marry into Choctaw & Creek families at the time when to do such wasn't always such a good thing to do, especially in the South. But, all said I know because of my Granny we have always felt not belonging & not quite in place in quote "proper white society" when we were growing up in MS. Now that we are grown and are finding out more about our Choctaw & Creek heritage we understand why we feel the way we do about everyday things my family did different & why we have such a love of the land even though we live in the city. Lets not let who has or hasn't got the card decide who we are inside & cause us to pick who we will have for our friends & family. Now, I will get off my soapbox about that subject. As for baskets ... Arla what kind do you make? My Granny made pine needle baskets. Do you ever come to the Band of the Poach Creek Indians pow wow near Atmore, AL. ? Or the Great Gulf Coast Art Festival in Pensacola, FL? Sorry I ran on, gotta get to work now. Take care, Marcie

> As for baskets ... Arla what kind do you make? I have made several different kinds.I am a student of Choctaw Diagonal Weaving.I say student because I think I will always be learning. I have done some pine needle and I also do Cherokee Double Wall among other styles.I've used all kinds of materials to weave with. I have never exibited anything in Alabama.I have been from Arkansas to California and Texas to South Dakota. I have never had a teacher, all I have learned has come from something I read connected to something inside me.I also teach and always tell my students that everyone on this earth at this time has the genetic makeup to weave.Somewhere in everyone's ancestory there is a weaver.We just have to bring the memory back to us. Arla > My Granny made > pine needle baskets. Do you ever come to the Band of the > Poach > Creek Indians pow wow near Atmore, AL. ? Or the Great Gulf > Coast > Art Festival in Pensacola, FL? > Sorry I ran on, gotta get to work now. > Take care, Marcie > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

The us passport office takes entrys from bibles as proof needed. perhaps someone has a old bible withe your indian history recorde d in it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcia Lee <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 6:24 AM Subject: [CHAHTA] Blood quatum & baskets > Hi all, > Like some others unless theres a miracle or my stubborn persistent digging comes > up with the right info (u.s.government approved) in black & white none of my family will ever > get THE CARD. Okay, I can live with that. Like Markie, I think I have made my way without it > thus far. It would be the icing on the cake if I ever find what I need to get it, but it can't > change who my ancestors were & that fact that they have always told us we were > of Choctaw & Creek descent. I will always be sure to keep telling the same to my nephew > & nieces as my granny told to us. I will not let them forget where we come from as they > certainly will not learn it in their schools. Like Arla, I have my white ancestors too, & I > won't forget them either .... I mean look at the good hearts & sense the had to marry > into Choctaw & Creek families at the time when to do such wasn't always such a > good thing to do, especially in the South. But, all said I know because of my > Granny we have always felt not belonging & not quite in place in quote > "proper white society" when we were growing up in MS. Now that we are > grown and are finding out more about our Choctaw & Creek heritage we > understand why we feel the way we do about everyday things my family > did different & why we have such a love of the land even though we live > in the city. Lets not let who has or hasn't got the card decide who we > are inside & cause us to pick who we will have for our friends & family. > Now, I will get off my soapbox about that subject. > As for baskets ... Arla what kind do you make? My Granny made > pine needle baskets. Do you ever come to the Band of the Poach > Creek Indians pow wow near Atmore, AL. ? Or the Great Gulf Coast > Art Festival in Pensacola, FL? > Sorry I ran on, gotta get to work now. > Take care, Marcie > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >