Thanks Markie, Lucus Greywolf wrote and told me some of the problems that was associated with owl feathers. I would have been dumb about them there feathers as I was about the Chahta trim. I decided that if it must be ask to do so myself. Thanks Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: Markie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Owl feathers > Hey Ellen, > > Most, but not always all, Indian people believe that the owl is a messager > of bad news. At Pow Wow's and gatherings where there are people of all > tribes, you would never have owl feathers because of offending the ones who > do believe in this. My grandmother believed that if an owl landed in a > tree in your yard, it meant that someone in the family would die. I have > seen her run outside and throw sticks at one to run it off when I was a > little girl. My mother also believed this. > > I have a friend who is a fullblood Cherokee and he told me he was not > bothered by them, but told me what he did to a friend one time at a pow > wow. A lady came up to him and had a fan for sale, which had a beautiful > fully beaded handle, but had owl feathers in it. He told her he wasn't > interested but pointed out a friend setting across the circle from him and > told her to go ask him, he might want to buy it. So she walked around the > circle, started talking to the man, then showed him the fan. The man > jumped up, and fell over the chairs while trying to get away from the fan, > as my friend watched all of this, he was laughing his head off. Later, the > other man told him he saw him laughing, and while kidding, said he was > going to kill him! LOL Some, more than others, are deathly afraid of Owl > feathers. The Drum has been known to get up and leave the circle in the > presents of owl feathers. > > Even if someone doesn't believe this, it is out of respect for the ones who > do believe this, to never use owl feathers on any part of your regalia, or > anything you have, especially anytime you are going to any intertribal > types of events.... pow wows... gathering, etc. > > As all Indian People revere the Eagle as the bird to take our prayers to > God, then next is the Hawk, the Eagles little brother, the owl is the > messenger of bad news. > > So that's what I know about Owl feathers... does anyone else know other > things to add? > > Markie > > At 09:22 AM 04/25/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >Hey Girl, > > > >Those owl feathers needs explained not only to me but to the Chatha list. > >Why are owl feathers bad luck and so on. Yep? That went right over my head. > >Need to know do all Injuns feel that way? Give us a lesson girl! > > > >Ellen > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >