I was not aware of the thing about only the head lady having a fan. But then unfortunately I was not raised around my Choctaw people. Have only been trying to catch up on the things I missed for the last few years. I think the difference comes if you are talking about a dance held in the specific old Choctaw way or if you are talking powwow. For the most part powwows are intertribal and have certain 'standard' codes that you can adjust slightly to show your personal heritage. Like the ladies wearing a dress that reflects their tribe but also carrying the shawl that enhances the steps of the dance with its sway and the fan for show as well as comfort. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Val <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Dance Fans > I have to agree. > I love it all. I feel that we always enjoyed fashion, the Choctaw were > great traders. > A fan is necessary for me. I get so hot dancing I need to fan myself. I > think we always adjusted to what we liked. The fan in the old days more > than likely did give the head woman dancer some special place that paricular > dance night, eh? > Val > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graywolf" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 7:49 AM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Dance Fans > > > > Barbie is right about the fans. But for the past 30 years so many tribal > > members are traveling to pow-wows that we have started to intermingle our > > regalia. The only thing that still sets us apart is the cotton "Southern" > > women's dresses with the yoke. In one of my articles for Bishinik I > > commented that much of our ery early clothing styles were exactly the same > > as the plains tribes. Early paintings of our people show the men wearing > > only loin clothes and skins shirts and the women wearing skin dresses. But > > the Southern cotton granny dress changed much of that for our women. > > > > Nevertheless, as our young people travel around the country to pow-wows > the > > clothing all starts to look the same for ALL tribes again and as our > > children intermarry with men and women from other tribes, we are slowly > > adding real meaning to the expression, "blood brothers." > > > > Lucas Graywolf > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "The Peddicords" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 9:27 AM > > Subject: [CHAHTA] Dance Fans > > > > > > > I was under the impression that dance fans were a plains nations thingy > > for > > > everyone and that in the SE nations only persons of importance used them > > > like a alikchi. Do not as a younger remember seeing them carried by > women. > > > But then in fifty years things do change. Barbie > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Choctaw Home Page: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >