This has been a very interesting question, Dodie. This is the second question you have asked that has inspired people to get involved. Enjoyed reading the posts. I am also of the thought that everyone has the ability to to tape into this intutive mind. Everyone has had some experience with this and some think of it as a gift, possibly because it is an incredible experience for them and others as a natual way of life because they trust and use their intutition. I use mine daily and trust my "feelings and impressions". It has yet to fail me. There are friends who think I'm spooky and others who realize and accept that it is a part of who I am. The healers and medicine people of the First People had the inherient sense of intuition. Theirs was an exceptional ablility. Thru time and oppression some may have lost this ability where others never stopped using it. In every culture there is evidence of people who exercise this ability and there are people who wish to exorise it. I'm not talking about sceptics. The exorist are the negative, narrow minded individuals who become the fanatics. This is another subject... Judith -----Original Message----- From: Dodie <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, August 31, 2000 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Question >I'm really glad you shared this with us. My ex husband has this to some degree. >I don't know if he has Indian or not, he is a major racist what ever he is. His >mother once said she thought there might be Indian blood on her side. This >really makes me curious why some men do have this gift but not as many as women. >Wonder if men just tune it out when they are young. >I have the opinion that everyone probably has this but throughout the ages it >has been lost by being surpressed by the dominate society. Where Indians have >always excepted these things as natural and live closer the natural type of >life. We haven't surpressed as many thing. >Couse this is just my opinion with no fact to back it up. >Dodie > >Crazy Diamond wrote: > >> I took no offense, Dodie. I can't get a non-threatening matter-of-fact sound >> in my e-mail. There >> was no ill will meant or felt. >> Peace, >> Kevin/CD >> Please note I have another e-mail address now. It is [email protected] >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dodie <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Question >> >> >I believe your credibility is in tact. When I mentioned it's a woman thing, >> I >> >did not mean men were excluded. Women are more open about it I think. >> Medicine >> >men have this gift. I had a feeling the Cherokee were not the only Indians >> had >> >this ability. >> >Dodie >> > >> >Crazy Diamond wrote: >> > >> >> I am a man. I have many experiences of a spiritual and /or psychic >> nature, >> >> also. Through my mother I have a Sicilian folk-healer connection as my >> >> great-grandmother was very skilled in healing herbs and spells. Also >> through >> >> my mother's line is the Choctaw line by way of the Varnados(and French). >> >> They used to say it was the Strickland line from Ulster(No. Ireland) that >> >> had "the touch", which, for me at least, is the same line the Varnado >> line >> >> comes through. I feel strongly, however, that some of that "touch" comes >> >> from the Choctaw line. It's almost as if the ancestors are telling me >> this. >> >> Then also there is the spirit of place. I live in Robert, LA between >> Hammond >> >> and Covington, less than 30 miles from where the old Lacombe Choctaw >> >> community was. Perhaps, in my case it is a blending of all these lines. >> We >> >> are all who came before us. At a place north of here, near Amite, LA, at >> an >> >> old market gathering place for the local tribes long ago, I had a past >> life >> >> flash from a well-worn to a polish rock that fit my hand perfectly in two >> >> ways. It is a gray rock, maybe granite. I knew I had held this stone in a >> >> previous life. It was given to me by a lady, without my asking and as my >> >> only payment, whose house I had tried to calm because of a spirit that >> was >> >> not making itself known, but just being very obviously there. She still >> had >> >> some uneasiness later and was contacting folks in California about it. >> She >> >> would smell the lady's perfume. I could sense her in a rocking chair >> sewing >> >> in a room. >> >> Well, there goes my credibility. Wee-hoo! >> >> Kevin Frindik >> >> Please note I have another e-mail address now. It is >> [email protected] >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Dodie <[email protected]> >> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >> Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:20 AM >> >> Subject: [CHAHTA] Question >> >> >> >> >I am 1/8 Cherokee so I am on a Cherokee list. The subject of dreams have >> >> >come up. Most of the people have dreams that come true and they know at >> >> >the time they are like predictions. My mother who was Cherokee was >> >> >amazing at this. I have this gift also but not as strongly as my mother. >> >> >Have any of you had this experience? Trying to decided if it is a >> >> >Cherokee thing or if others have this gift also. I am am much more >> >> >Chahta than Cherokee and consider myself Chahta so naturally wonder if >> >> >our people have this gift also. My father never did this, but it seems >> >> >to be more a woman thing anyway. >> >> >Dodie >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >> >> >Choctaw Home Page: >> >> >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm >> >> >> >> ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >> >> Home Page: >> >> http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm >> > >> > >> >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >> >Home Page: >> >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm >> >> ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >> To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: >> Send msg. to [email protected] >> Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes >> Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >To Unsubscribe: >Send msg. to [email protected] >Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes >Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >

Halito Judith: I have been surprised at the response to the question. I think this gift has been so suppressed by the dominate culture that our people are eager to speak of it. Rather than get the "look" that one is strange or making it up, we can talk freely here and discuss it with others who know it to be a gift and a natural thing. Remember the dominate culture chastised our people for this type of thing and they also burned their own at Salem for these natural gifts. Many churches teach these thing are not natural and are of the devil. It is no wonder our people have been fearfully to discuss this and other cultures suppress it. I think it gives the list members a connection to each other, we see that our experiences are a shared thing of our people. Dodie Judith Durr wrote: > This has been a very interesting question, Dodie. This is the second > question you have asked that has inspired people to get involved. > Enjoyed reading the posts. > I am also of the thought that everyone has the ability to to tape into > this intutive mind. Everyone has had some experience with this and > some think of it as a gift, possibly because it is an incredible experience > for them and others as a natual way of life because they > trust and use their intutition. > I use mine daily and trust my "feelings and impressions". It has yet > to fail me. There are friends who think I'm spooky and others who > realize and accept that it is a part of who I am. > The healers and medicine people of the First People had > the inherient sense of intuition. Theirs was an exceptional ablility. > Thru time and oppression some may have lost this ability where > others never stopped using it. > In every culture there is evidence of people who exercise this > ability and there are people who wish to exorise it. I'm not > talking about sceptics. The exorist are the negative, narrow > minded individuals who become the fanatics. This is another subject... > Judith

Reading all the responses to this line brought something back to me that a Grandmother had said to me. ( We see and hear many things in our walk. When we learn to see and to hear with our hearts,then will we have a true understanding of our walk.) Arla