Yes, I used that general date and it looks promising. I just hope I'm not disappointed. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Fay ----- Original Message ----- From: Dusty <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Dawes info.? > Read again, Creeks by blood are shown the age they were when they enrolled - > on that date. And to find out what that date was you have to get a copy of > their census card. I use 1902-1906 as a general area to figure age. > > dusty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: faynshep <faynshep@telapex.com> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 2:26 AM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Dawes info.? > > > > What about Creeks by Blood? > > Fay > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dusty <dustyc@microgear.net> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 12:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Dawes info.? > > > > > > > Some groups are dated as of 1902. Other groups are dated as of different > > > dates. Here's the way it breaks down: > > > > > > Choctaws by Blood, Sept. 25, 1902 > > > Newborn Choctaws, March 4, 1905 > > > Minor Choctaws, Marhc 4, 1906 > > > Intermarried Choctaws, Sept. 25, 1902 > > > Choctaw Freedmen, Sept. 25, 1902 > > > Minor Choctaw Freedmen, March 4, 1906 > > > > > > Mississippi Choctaws, Sept. 25, 1902 > > > Newborn Miss. Choctaw, March 4, 1905 > > > Minor Miss. Choctaw, March 4, 1906 > > > > > > Chickasaws, Sept. 25, 1902 > > > Newborn Chickasaw, March 4, 1905 > > > Minor Chickasaw, March 4, 1906 > > > Intermarried Chickasaw, Sept. 25, 1902 > > > Chickasaw Freedmen, 'Sept. 25, 1902 > > > > > > Cherokee by Blood, Sept. 1, 1902 > > > Minor Cherokee, March 4, 1905 > > > Delaware Cherokee-no date shown on roll > > > Intermarried Cherokee-no date shown > > > Cherokee Freedmen-no date shown > > > Minor Cherokee Freedmen-March 4, 1907 > > > > > > Creeks by Blood-age is shown as of date of enrollment. In order to > > > calculate age it is necessary to have a copy of census card showing date > > of > > > enrollment > > > Newborn Creeks-age as of enrollment date > > > Minor Creek-age as of enrollment date > > > Creek Freedmen-age as of enrollment date > > > Minor Creek Freedmen-age age of enrollment date > > > > > > Seminole by Blood-Dec. 31, 1899 > > > Seminole Freedmen-March 3, 1905 > > > Minor Seminoles-March 3, 1905 > > > > > > dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Elkdreamer Wilkins <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 9:32 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Dawes info.? > > > > > > > > > > Halito Fay > > > > On the Nail site the first page has the year that it was done. It > was > > > > in 1902. > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: faynshep <faynshep@telapex.com> > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Dawes info.? > > > > >Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 21:35:46 -0700 > > > > > > > > > >But how do you know what year that roll was done? I'm thinking there > > is > > > > >some broad span of years. Do you just have to wait until you get the > > > > >packet > > > > >and then will you be able to find out about when they were born? > > > > >Fay > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: Dusty <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 1:19 PM > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Dawes info.? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, age is listed on the Dawes roll. You calculate it from the > > year > > > > >that > > > > > > particular roll was done. > > > > > > > > > > > > dusty > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: faynshep <faynshep@telapex.com> > > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 1:06 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Dawes info.? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You know, it tells you so much but it doesn't say what year that > > > > > > information > > > > > > > was taken so you don't know when a person was born. I will call > > them > > > > >and > > > > > > see > > > > > > > if I can order over the phone. > > > > > > > Fay > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: Dusty <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 7:22 AM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Dawes info.? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can tell you what family members are listed on the same > census > > > > >card, > > > > > > > > sometimes helping people to recognize if a name is their > > ancestor > > > or > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems to me like I have been told you can do this over the > phone > > > > >with > > > > > > > credit > > > > > > > > card. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dusty > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: faynshep <faynshep@telapex.com> > > > > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 1:14 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: [CHAHTA] Dawes info.? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dusty, Can you order a packet over the phone and pay with a > > > credit > > > > > > card? > > > > > > > > > I have a name, age, census number, and roll number. Is > there > > > any > > > > >more > > > > > > > > info. > > > > > > > > > on what you have? > > > > > > > > > Fay > > > > > > > > > Don't ever give up.!!!! > > > > > > > > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/gedcoms/ratcliff/ > > > > > > > > > List owner HOLDEN-L, SCHIFANO-L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: > > > > > > > > > Send msg. to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" > without > > > the > > > > > > quotes > > > > > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: > > > > > > > > Send msg. to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... 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