good words Linda Walk in Beauty Elkdreamer >From: "Linda Branum" <mamalin@1s.net> >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] (Jim) >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:52:10 -0500 > >Hi Jim, > Your a good man and all you need to say is please don't call me Sir >cause >I don't like that. Some people say it makes them feel old. I think its just >respect for the other person. Each one of us has our own feelings and if we >express them then things change. Its the holding back of feelings that make >us loose it. It is so much better to talk out our feelings than to hold >them >in. Its like a sore that festers after a while it pops. If we take good >care >od it it will go away without hurting so bad. > Have a blessed day Jim and thanks for calling me ma'am >Regards, Linda >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:45 AM >Subject: Re: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > Halito Jim > > Good Words > > Walk in Beauty > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > >From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:15:16 -0400 > > > > > >Hi Linda > > >Thank you, ma'am! > > >Jim > > > > > >jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > >http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Linda Branum" <mamalin@1s.net> > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 8:05 AM > > >Subject: Re: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jim, > > > > Some people don't and if told my children and I will respect your > > >wishes. > > > > Regards, Linda > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 1:29 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > It all goes back to how you were raised and the degree of respect >you > > >were > > > > > taught!! My father was in the military so I was raised to show >respect > > >for > > > > > others, my elders and those of authority. Whether they deserved it >or > > > > not!!! > > > > > > > > > > Me? I dispise being called "Sir"!! > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > > > http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Juli Kearns" <jmme@mindspring.com> > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 2:49 PM > > > > > Subject: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Good manners" are not necessarily "good manners" in another. I > > >grew > > >up > > > > > in > > > > > > the northwest and had never heard "Yes maam" and "No maam", "Yes > > >sir" > > > > and > > > > > > "No sir". Not even when visiting relatives in the midwest had I > > >heard > > > > > > this. We moved to Ga when I was 10 and when I would say "Yes" >to >a > > > > > > teacher, they would respond, "Yes, what?" And I would say, >"No?" > > >And > > > > they > > > > > > would say, "No, what?" I was without a clue and completely > > >confused. > > > > > What > > > > > > in the world did they want me to say? When I was finally >informed > > >what > > > > > was > > > > > > going on, I considered it particularly rigorous, unsympathetic, >and > > > > > > ignorant on the part of these adults to not understand that >regional > > > > > > customs may just be that, regional. Indeed, in the situations >in > > >which > > > > I > > > > > > had grown up, the use of "Yes maam" etc. would have been >suggestive > > >to > > > > the > > > > > > ears of both pandering and subjugation. A simple yes or no was > > >enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > What makes good manners is the spirit in which another >individual >is > > > > > treated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Juli > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:06 PM 4/8/01 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > > >I don't know if good manners are Indian ways or southern ways, >but > > >I > > > > > raised > > > > > > >my children up to say yes mam and no sir, etc. One of mine >came > > >home > > > > > from > > > > > > >school one day and said to me "what". I asked her if I needed >to > > >wash > > > > > out > > > > > > >her mouth or her ears and asked did she speak to her teachers >that > > >way > > > > to > > > > > > >which she responded, "Ms. Jones doesn't want me to call her >Mam" >to > > > > which > > > > > I > > > > > > >said "Ms Jones can have no manners if she wishes but that >option >is > > >not > > > > > open > > > > > > >to you, you will call anyone that is 20 years older than you >mam > > >or > > > > > sir." > > > > > > >Fay > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information. Visit Rusty Lang's pages at > > > > > http://www.choctaw-web.com for articles, censuses, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the >quotes > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > >Need more CHOCTAW information. 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Thanks Elkdreamer. I have learned that from experince. Regards, Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 10:09 PM Subject: Re: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] (Jim) > good words Linda > Walk in Beauty > Elkdreamer > > > >From: "Linda Branum" <mamalin@1s.net> > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] (Jim) > >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:52:10 -0500 > > > >Hi Jim, > > Your a good man and all you need to say is please don't call me Sir > >cause > >I don't like that. Some people say it makes them feel old. I think its just > >respect for the other person. Each one of us has our own feelings and if we > >express them then things change. Its the holding back of feelings that make > >us loose it. It is so much better to talk out our feelings than to hold > >them > >in. Its like a sore that festers after a while it pops. If we take good > >care > >od it it will go away without hurting so bad. > > Have a blessed day Jim and thanks for calling me ma'am > >Regards, Linda > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:45 AM > >Subject: Re: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > Halito Jim > > > Good Words > > > Walk in Beauty > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:15:16 -0400 > > > > > > > >Hi Linda > > > >Thank you, ma'am! > > > >Jim > > > > > > > >jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > >http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Linda Branum" <mamalin@1s.net> > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 8:05 AM > > > >Subject: Re: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jim, > > > > > Some people don't and if told my children and I will respect your > > > >wishes. > > > > > Regards, Linda > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 1:29 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It all goes back to how you were raised and the degree of respect > >you > > > >were > > > > > > taught!! My father was in the military so I was raised to show > >respect > > > >for > > > > > > others, my elders and those of authority. Whether they deserved it > >or > > > > > not!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Me? I dispise being called "Sir"!! > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > > > > http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Juli Kearns" <jmme@mindspring.com> > > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 2:49 PM > > > > > > Subject: Yes and no ma'am Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Good manners" are not necessarily "good manners" in another. I > > > >grew > > > >up > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the northwest and had never heard "Yes maam" and "No maam", "Yes > > > >sir" > > > > > and > > > > > > > "No sir". Not even when visiting relatives in the midwest had I > > > >heard > > > > > > > this. We moved to Ga when I was 10 and when I would say "Yes" > >to > >a > > > > > > > teacher, they would respond, "Yes, what?" And I would say, > >"No?" > > > >And > > > > > they > > > > > > > would say, "No, what?" I was without a clue and completely > > > >confused. > > > > > > What > > > > > > > in the world did they want me to say? When I was finally > >informed > > > >what > > > > > > was > > > > > > > going on, I considered it particularly rigorous, unsympathetic, > >and > > > > > > > ignorant on the part of these adults to not understand that > >regional > > > > > > > customs may just be that, regional. Indeed, in the situations > >in > > > >which > > > > > I > > > > > > > had grown up, the use of "Yes maam" etc. would have been > >suggestive > > > >to > > > > > the > > > > > > > ears of both pandering and subjugation. A simple yes or no was > > > >enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What makes good manners is the spirit in which another > >individual > >is > > > > > > treated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Juli > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:06 PM 4/8/01 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > > > >I don't know if good manners are Indian ways or southern ways, > >but > > > >I > > > > > > raised > > > > > > > >my children up to say yes mam and no sir, etc. One of mine > >came > > > >home > > > > > > from > > > > > > > >school one day and said to me "what". I asked her if I needed > >to > > > >wash > > > > > > out > > > > > > > >her mouth or her ears and asked did she speak to her teachers > >that > > > >way > > > > > to > > > > > > > >which she responded, "Ms. Jones doesn't want me to call her > >Mam" > >to > > > > > which > > > > > > I > > > > > > > >said "Ms Jones can have no manners if she wishes but that > >option > >is > > > >not > > > > > > open > > > > > > > >to you, you will call anyone that is 20 years older than you > >mam > > > >or > > > > > > sir." > > > > > > > >Fay > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information. Visit Rusty Lang's pages at > > > > > > http://www.choctaw-web.com for articles, censuses, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the > >quotes > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > >Need more CHOCTAW information. 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