Dennis, Thanks for the reply. It is as I thought and I understand their reasoning. To keep the Chata race as pure as possible. It is sad that the numbers are dwindling and will continue to decline though. Another product of assimilation, but a noble effort by the Mississippi Band of Choctaw. I wish them well. Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Boswell" <dennisb@primenet.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:48 AM Subject: [CHAHTA] Re:Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians Tribal Membership Requirements > Halito, Kim. > > When I last visited Philadelphia, MS, (October, 1998) their checklist for > tribal membership included: > > "Before you apply be sure you are one-half (1/2) or more Choctaw blood and > are a descendant of an enrolled member of the Mississippi Band of Choctaw > Indians listed in the 1940 roll. (See Articles III, Section 1 and 2 of the > Tribal Constitution). > > Make sure: > > 1. The Application for Enrollment is completed > 2. The Ancestry Chart is completed > 3. If applicant is under 18 years old both parents must sign. > 4. Original long form birth certificate is included > 5. A copy of the Social Security card is included. > 6. An original of the Parternity (sp) Affidavit is included (if needed) > 7. Statement from official of the other Indian tribe (if applicable) > stating the inividual (sp) is not enrolled with them is included. > > Please mail to the following address: > > Mrs. Angela Briscoe > Tribal Enrollment Office > Post Office Box 6365 > Philadelphia, Mississippi 39350" > > This information appeared as shown above in a copy of "A Choctaw Handybook" > that I purchased from the Choctaw Museum Gift Shoppe located in the > Choctaw Museum of the Southern Indian. At the time (October, 1998), they > had available a Gift Shoppe list of items for sale along with prices. The > Gift Shoppe's Telephone number was (601) 650-1685 and their Web site was > http://allcatalogs.com/choctaw. However, I just tried that web site and it > did not respond. > > > At 11:32 PM 04/05/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >The Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma accepts all who can trace their lineage to an > >original enrollee ( and who have a CDIB) of the Choctaw roll regardless of > >blood quantum. > >I personally prefer American Indian as any one born in the US is NA. Don't > >profess to know what the Choctaw nation of OK thinks about the term though. > >Yes the Choctaw have had dealings and inter marriages with Europeans for > >many years. Many great chiefs were of mixed blood. > >I do believe that MS Choctaw have a more stringent requirement for tribal > >membership but I am not sure. > >Perhaps there is some one on the list who can supply you a better answer. > >Kim > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <Chata1507@aol.com> > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:46 PM > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > I have been told that the Choctaw Nation prefers the term Indian over > >native > > > American since anyone born in America is also a native American. This > >makes > > > sense to me. However, each nation has their own opinion. In addition I > > > think it's what ever you are comfortable with. > > > > > > On a previous question. In Minnesota the tribes historically accepted > > > persons into tribe who basically moved in with them, became community > > > supporters and identified with the tribe and its goals. This included > > > captives who were adopted. Friends on various reservations in Minnesota > >also > > > chuckle at the concept of full blood because over the years of euro > >contact > > > who can really know blood genetics. For example Crazy Horse was light > >haired > > > and blue eyed according to a Lakota friend. The Mandans have many with > >light > > > eyes and hair. > > > > > > Look at the pictures of a lot of the old Choctaw and you see euro > >influence. > > > The Choctaw have had contact since they ran De Soto out in the early > >1500s. > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Visit Judy White's pages at > >http://accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, data, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > >Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > >Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > Regards, > > Dennis K. Boswell > 301 Crow Canyon Drive > Folsom, CA 95630 > > Tel: (916) 987-3599 > Fax: (916) 987-3555 > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't post it to the list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com > >
What is a Chata? ----- Original Message ----- From: Kim Collins <2buckets@arbuckleonline.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Re:Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians Tribal Membership Requirements > Dennis, Thanks for the reply. It is as I thought and I understand their > reasoning. To keep the Chata race as pure as possible. It is sad that the > numbers are dwindling and will continue to decline though. Another product > of assimilation, but a noble effort by the Mississippi Band of Choctaw. I > wish them well. > Kim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Boswell" <dennisb@primenet.com> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:48 AM > Subject: [CHAHTA] Re:Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians Tribal Membership > Requirements > > > > Halito, Kim. > > > > When I last visited Philadelphia, MS, (October, 1998) their checklist for > > tribal membership included: > > > > "Before you apply be sure you are one-half (1/2) or more Choctaw blood and > > are a descendant of an enrolled member of the Mississippi Band of Choctaw > > Indians listed in the 1940 roll. (See Articles III, Section 1 and 2 of the > > Tribal Constitution). > > > > Make sure: > > > > 1. The Application for Enrollment is completed > > 2. The Ancestry Chart is completed > > 3. If applicant is under 18 years old both parents must sign. > > 4. Original long form birth certificate is included > > 5. A copy of the Social Security card is included. > > 6. An original of the Parternity (sp) Affidavit is included (if needed) > > 7. Statement from official of the other Indian tribe (if applicable) > > stating the inividual (sp) is not enrolled with them is included. > > > > Please mail to the following address: > > > > Mrs. Angela Briscoe > > Tribal Enrollment Office > > Post Office Box 6365 > > Philadelphia, Mississippi 39350" > > > > This information appeared as shown above in a copy of "A Choctaw > Handybook" > > that I purchased from the Choctaw Museum Gift Shoppe located in the > > Choctaw Museum of the Southern Indian. At the time (October, 1998), they > > had available a Gift Shoppe list of items for sale along with prices. The > > Gift Shoppe's Telephone number was (601) 650-1685 and their Web site was > > http://allcatalogs.com/choctaw. However, I just tried that web site and it > > did not respond. > > > > > > At 11:32 PM 04/05/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > >The Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma accepts all who can trace their lineage to > an > > >original enrollee ( and who have a CDIB) of the Choctaw roll regardless > of > > >blood quantum. > > >I personally prefer American Indian as any one born in the US is NA. > Don't > > >profess to know what the Choctaw nation of OK thinks about the term > though. > > >Yes the Choctaw have had dealings and inter marriages with Europeans for > > >many years. Many great chiefs were of mixed blood. > > >I do believe that MS Choctaw have a more stringent requirement for tribal > > >membership but I am not sure. > > >Perhaps there is some one on the list who can supply you a better > answer. > > >Kim > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: <Chata1507@aol.com> > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:46 PM > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > I have been told that the Choctaw Nation prefers the term Indian over > > >native > > > > American since anyone born in America is also a native American. This > > >makes > > > > sense to me. However, each nation has their own opinion. In addition > I > > > > think it's what ever you are comfortable with. > > > > > > > > On a previous question. In Minnesota the tribes historically accepted > > > > persons into tribe who basically moved in with them, became community > > > > supporters and identified with the tribe and its goals. This included > > > > captives who were adopted. Friends on various reservations in > Minnesota > > >also > > > > chuckle at the concept of full blood because over the years of euro > > >contact > > > > who can really know blood genetics. For example Crazy Horse was light > > >haired > > > > and blue eyed according to a Lakota friend. The Mandans have many > with > > >light > > > > eyes and hair. > > > > > > > > Look at the pictures of a lot of the old Choctaw and you see euro > > >influence. > > > > The Choctaw have had contact since they ran De Soto out in the early > > >1500s. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Visit Judy White's pages at > > >http://accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, data, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > > >Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > >Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > >Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Dennis K. Boswell > > 301 Crow Canyon Drive > > Folsom, CA 95630 > > > > Tel: (916) 987-3599 > > Fax: (916) 987-3555 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't post it to the > list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at > CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >
It is a Choctaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patsy Caleb" <studentarchaeologist@home.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Re:Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians Tribal Membership Requirements > What is a Chata? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kim Collins <2buckets@arbuckleonline.com> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 7:10 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Re:Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians Tribal > Membership Requirements > > > > Dennis, Thanks for the reply. It is as I thought and I understand their > > reasoning. To keep the Chata race as pure as possible. It is sad that the > > numbers are dwindling and will continue to decline though. Another product > > of assimilation, but a noble effort by the Mississippi Band of Choctaw. I > > wish them well. > > Kim > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dennis Boswell" <dennisb@primenet.com> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:48 AM > > Subject: [CHAHTA] Re:Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians Tribal Membership > > Requirements > > > > > > > Halito, Kim. > > > > > > When I last visited Philadelphia, MS, (October, 1998) their checklist > for > > > tribal membership included: > > > > > > "Before you apply be sure you are one-half (1/2) or more Choctaw blood > and > > > are a descendant of an enrolled member of the Mississippi Band of > Choctaw > > > Indians listed in the 1940 roll. (See Articles III, Section 1 and 2 of > the > > > Tribal Constitution). > > > > > > Make sure: > > > > > > 1. The Application for Enrollment is completed > > > 2. The Ancestry Chart is completed > > > 3. If applicant is under 18 years old both parents must sign. > > > 4. Original long form birth certificate is included > > > 5. A copy of the Social Security card is included. > > > 6. An original of the Parternity (sp) Affidavit is included (if needed) > > > 7. Statement from official of the other Indian tribe (if applicable) > > > stating the inividual (sp) is not enrolled with them is included. > > > > > > Please mail to the following address: > > > > > > Mrs. Angela Briscoe > > > Tribal Enrollment Office > > > Post Office Box 6365 > > > Philadelphia, Mississippi 39350" > > > > > > This information appeared as shown above in a copy of "A Choctaw > > Handybook" > > > that I purchased from the Choctaw Museum Gift Shoppe located in the > > > Choctaw Museum of the Southern Indian. At the time (October, 1998), they > > > had available a Gift Shoppe list of items for sale along with prices. > The > > > Gift Shoppe's Telephone number was (601) 650-1685 and their Web site was > > > http://allcatalogs.com/choctaw. However, I just tried that web site and > it > > > did not respond. > > > > > > > > > At 11:32 PM 04/05/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > > >The Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma accepts all who can trace their lineage > to > > an > > > >original enrollee ( and who have a CDIB) of the Choctaw roll regardless > > of > > > >blood quantum. > > > >I personally prefer American Indian as any one born in the US is NA. > > Don't > > > >profess to know what the Choctaw nation of OK thinks about the term > > though. > > > >Yes the Choctaw have had dealings and inter marriages with Europeans > for > > > >many years. Many great chiefs were of mixed blood. > > > >I do believe that MS Choctaw have a more stringent requirement for > tribal > > > >membership but I am not sure. > > > >Perhaps there is some one on the list who can supply you a better > > answer. > > > >Kim > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: <Chata1507@aol.com> > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:46 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been told that the Choctaw Nation prefers the term Indian > over > > > >native > > > > > American since anyone born in America is also a native American. > This > > > >makes > > > > > sense to me. However, each nation has their own opinion. In > addition > > I > > > > > think it's what ever you are comfortable with. > > > > > > > > > > On a previous question. In Minnesota the tribes historically > accepted > > > > > persons into tribe who basically moved in with them, became > community > > > > > supporters and identified with the tribe and its goals. This > included > > > > > captives who were adopted. Friends on various reservations in > > Minnesota > > > >also > > > > > chuckle at the concept of full blood because over the years of euro > > > >contact > > > > > who can really know blood genetics. For example Crazy Horse was > light > > > >haired > > > > > and blue eyed according to a Lakota friend. The Mandans have many > > with > > > >light > > > > > eyes and hair. > > > > > > > > > > Look at the pictures of a lot of the old Choctaw and you see euro > > > >influence. > > > > > The Choctaw have had contact since they ran De Soto out in the early > > > >1500s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Visit Judy White's pages at > > > >http://accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, data, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > > > >Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > > >Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Dennis K. Boswell > > > 301 Crow Canyon Drive > > > Folsom, CA 95630 > > > > > > Tel: (916) 987-3599 > > > Fax: (916) 987-3555 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't post it to the > > list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at > > CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ >