After the Civil War, when the army could turn its full attention to "the Indian problem" Generals Sherman (and the man's middle name was Tecumseh!) and Sheridan did the same thing. Their idea or their superiors? Does it really matter? Still later, Sheridan became an Indian agent out here on the Grande Ronde Rez. Believe it or not, the Indians said he was a very good agent. Seems the man was just really good at following whatever orders he was given. Tommie Dusty wrote: > If you're really looking for a good excuse to get angry though, try this > quote: > > In 1763 Lord Jeffrey Amherst, English Noble and Commander for whom the city > of Amherst, NJ is named, gave blankets from the smallpox hospital with the > orders, "Infect the Indians with sheets upon which the smallpox patients > have been lying, or by any other mens which will serve to exterminate this > accursed race." > > The Ft. Pitt Commander offered to parley with the Indians and make them > gifts of the blankets. (Pontiac's War-Ottawa) > > dusty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dusty <dustyc@microgear.net> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:48 PM > Subject: [CHAHTA] Official Indian Policy > > > Dennis: > > > > My suggestion to try the American State Papers was just a general > > suggestion, as there is so much documentation of America's Indian policy I > > thought that would be a good place to start. The quotes were from the > > sources listed below them as I recall (I've already deleted my letter) - > > most can be found in Angie Debo's book "The Rise and Fall of the Choctaw > > Republic" > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dennis Boswell <dennisb@primenet.com> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 9:40 AM > > Subject: {not a subscriber} American State Papers > > > > > > > Halito, Dusty and Marcie (something here for both of you). > > > > > > Marcie, I trust this note will find you having had a good trip to > > Mississippi. > > > > > > Your Thomas Jefferson quotes from the American States Papers are most > > > interesting as they represent to my knowledge the first tangible > evidence > > > of anything approximating a US national policy aimed at removal of not > > only > > > the Choctaw, but all other members of the Five Civilized Tribes. > > > > > > I will guess that these quotations may be found in the Series or Class > 2. > > > volumes that concern Indian Affairs (1st Congress to 19th Congress, May > > 25, > > > 1789 to March 1, 1827). However, I do not know whether they are in > volume > > 1 > > > or volume 2. Do you happen to remember which volume they may be found > in? > > > > > > I am going to have to locate this volume and hope that it is available > on > > > inter-library loan. Where did you happen to find the volume containing > the > > > quotations. I sure have not been able to find this on the web. The only > > > volumes I am able to find seem to be located at Auburn University, > Samford > > > University in Birmingham; University of South Alabama, Mobile; > > > Jacksonsville State University, Sterne Library; University of West > > Alabama, > > > Julia Tutwiler LRC, Levington; University of North Alabama Library; > > > Combined Arms Research Library, Ft. Leavenworth and the University of > > > Toledo Libraries. > > > > > > I doubt that these are circulating volumes. By copy, Marcie, might you > > > please be able to do an OCLC search to see if these volumes circulate > from > > > any of these or other libraries? If you find that they do and will tell > > me > > > which one(s), then I should be able to order them on inter-library loan > > > through our library here in Folsom. > > > > > > By the way, Marcie, I think I have had good success in ordering some > > Bethel > > > Mission materials, including maps, from Southern Mississippi University > in > > > Hattiesburg. I will let you know when I receive them in a week or so. > You > > > may want to try the same approach on learning more about Perry's Stand. > If > > > you do, let me know and I will send you a name, email address, etc. of a > > > contact I have used for several years at USM. Their McCain Library staff > > is > > > very helpful. > > > > > > At 03:09 PM 04/09/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Try the"American State Papers". Removal policy began with President > > Thomas > > > >Jefferson who said, "When we shall be full on this side, we may lay off > a > > > >range of States on the western bank (of the Mississippi River) fro the > > head > > > >to the mouth, and so, range after range, advancing compactly as we > > (whites) > > > >multiply." (Source: Thomas Jefferson to John Breckenridge, August 12, > > 1803). > > > > > > > >In a letter he wrote to Andrew Jackson Feb. 16, 1803 he asserted that > the > > > >primary reason for keeping Indian agents among the tribes was to obtain > > > >their land. He stated, ":Toward effecting this object we consider > > leading > > > >the Indians to agriculture....Where they shall cultivate small spots of > > > >earth and see how useless their extensive forests are, they will sell." > > > >Each Indian agent "shall be estimated by us in proportion to the > benefits > > he > > > >can obtain for us." He ended his letter with the demand that his > views > > "be > > > >pursued unremittingly." (Thomas Jefferson to Andrew Jackson, Feb.16, > 1803 > > > >from "The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Memorial Edition) > > > > > > > >Jefferson justified his position by claiming that vas lands were needed > > > >between the Appalachain Mts. and the Mississippi River "for defense", > > which > > > >he believed could only be possible with a large white population. He > > also > > > >used more odious methods of obtaining Indian lands, as enlarging the > > > >governments Indian "factories" in the various nations and encouraging > the > > > >Indians to buy more and more goods on credit. When the Indians' debts > > > >became so burdensome that they could not possibly pay the total bill, > the > > > >Indian agents were instructed to reveal that the United States > government > > > >would magnanimously liquidate the debts by accepting land cessions. > > > >(Source:" A Complilation of the Mesages and Papers of the Presidents", > > > >Wash.D.C., 1807) > > > > > > > >There have been VOLUMES written on the US governments Indian policies > > under > > > >its various presidents. Your local library can point you in the right > > > >direction to conduct your personal research. > > > > > > > >dusty > > > > > > Yakoke, Yakoke, > > > > > > Dennis K. 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