Did Job sacrifice a son? -----Original Message----- From: Patsy Caleb [mailto:studentarchaeologist@home.com] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:11 PM To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION The original "Thou Shalt not kill" reads "Thou shalt not kill without a reason" from the Lost Books of the Bible and forgotten Books of Eden" ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Morrison, Jr. <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > What "animal" gives its life freely to death? > The ONLY one that could is MAN (human). And even MAN does not do so > hesitation. Could you honestly take a child of YOUR'S and kill the child as > an offering? For whatever the "rewards" that were promised. Could you? > When did Job sacarafice is son? Before or after the 10 Commandments were > writen? Why? Isn't one of the Commandments "Thous Shall Not Kill"? > Jim > > jmorsn@coastalnet.com > http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:12 AM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > good question > > I think that the statement, offering of his life could be considered to > > be like Job in the Bible he really didn't do it willing but when he did > God > > blessed him. Kind of like the warrior does giving thanks to the animal's > > spirit so he could feed his family. > > Walk in Beauty > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > >From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:27:28 -0500 > > > > > >I have one question here just for clarification. It doesn't mean I'm > > >challenging your statement, it just means I have a question, OK? If the > > >animal is giving an offering of it's life, why does it run away? > > > > > >dusty > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Elkdreamer Wilkins <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 5:19 AM > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > Halito Jim > > > > #1 question > > > > Another word for the supreme being > > > > #2 the offering of its life > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:23:34 -0400 > > > > > > > > > >Two quick questions: > > > > >1) Who is "Grand Father"? > > > > >2) The ANIMAL is giving an offering when IT is killed? > > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > >jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > > >http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:36 PM > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Dennis > > > > > > I am sorry if I offended you in anyway. My intrest is in all > > >things > > > > > > Choctaw. and Spirituality is one of the aspects of it. To > understand > > > > >Indian > > > > > > people you have to dig deep into their thought pattern. When they > > >killed > > > > > > animals for food and clothing they said a prayer To Grandfather > for > > >the > > > > > > offering that the animal gave and gave respect to the animal also. > > >When > > > > >they > > > > > > did beadwork they put part of their spirit in it also. when a > object > > >was > > > > > > discarded it was done with respect. Spirtuality was considered in > > >all > > > > >things > > > > > > done. That is one of the reasons that the Europeans that came here > > > > > > misunderstood our people and their ways. > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Dennis Boswell <dennisb@primenet.com> > > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:56:57 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Message for Elkdreamer and Dusty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regarding who subscribes to CHAHTA-L and why, permit me to > suggest > > >that > > > > > > >this list very likely has Choctaw and non-Choctaw subscribers. > > >Among > > > > >both > > > > > > >groups, there are those who have an exclusive interest in > religion > > >all > > > > >the > > > > > > >way to those who have an exclusive interest in some other aspect > of > > > > >Choctaw > > > > > > >life but no interest at all in religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In my case, I find Choctaw religious beliefs and the recent > > >discussion > > > > > > >surrounding them educational and thought provoking. However, my > > > > >personal > > > > > > >interest does not directly concern Choctaw religion. It is very > > >narrow > > > > >and > > > > > > >concerns central Mississippi, pre-removal Choctaw social and > family > > > > > > >customs, very narrowly defined examples of the Choctaw language > as > > > > >about > > > > > > >1800, relationships with early white settlers, trails and paths > > > > >followed > > > > >by > > > > > > >these Choctaw in relationship to today's central Mississippi > county > > > > > > >boundaries and the impact of removal on these same Choctaw with > > > > >specific > > > > > > >emphasis on the Durant Choctaw clan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >If I unsubscribe, which I will do one day (to return at a later > > >date), > > > > >it > > > > > > >will have nothing to do with whether I do or do not "learn other > > > > >religious > > > > > > >views," "heat in the kitchen" or "sensitive subjects." It will > have > > > > > > >everything to do with the fact that I subscribe to about > > >thirty-five > > > > >lists, > > > > > > >receive mountains of email and have priorities on my time and my > > > > >interests > > > > > > >that are quite different than anyone else on this list - a > comment > > >that > > > > > > >about everyone of you can make. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Recognize that one of the wonderful aspects of CHAHTA-L (in > > >comparison > > > > >with > > > > > > >virtually all na hollo lists) is the diversity of thought, > > >background, > > > > > > >education and perspective it offers. Were I to make one > suggestion > > >to > > > > >those > > > > > > >of you who clearly dominate this list, please guard against > > >becoming > > > > >too > > > > > > >clannish lest the very diversity that enriches this site might in > > >time > > > > > > >vanish leaving something less in its wake than you enjoy today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 08:50 AM 03/31/2001 -0800, you wrote: > > > > > > >>Halito Dusty and All list members > > > > > > >> I believe that we all have the right to believe in the way > that > > >we > > > > >want > > > > > > >>to. And in this aspect the right to discuss our and each others > > >views > > > > >in > > > > > > >>a intellegent and Adult way. Aparentlly the ones that left will > in > > >no > > > > >way > > > > > > >>ever learn that there are other views than their own. Like I > have > > > > >always > > > > > > >>been told if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. I > > >guess > > > > > > >>that is what they did. Lets keep up the heat I'm having fun. > > > > > > >> Walk in Beauty > > > > > > >> Elkdreamer > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > > > > >>>Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >>>To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >>>Subject: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > >>>Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:38:58 -0600 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>We lost another 5 listmembers this morning. Don't know for > what > > > > >reason. > > > > > > >>>While I suspect sensitive subject matter may be the reason, > this > > >is > > > > >only > > > > > > >>>a > > > > > > >>>supposition on my part. I have absolutely no objection to the > > >topic > > > > > > >>>continuing if that's what you guys want. Among other > > >peculiarities > > > > >and > > > > > > >>>character faults, I happen to wholeheartedly support the First > > > > >Amendment > > > > > > >>>on > > > > > > >>>this particular topic. What do you guys think?? > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't post it > to > > >the > > > > >list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at > > > > >CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== Need more CHOCTAW information?? Visit Judy White's pages at http://accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, data, etc.

I was going to ask that same question. I don't remember Job making sacrifice. He complained a lot (lol), but his family members died from other causes, not from sacrifice. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Kelley <CKELLEY@swpa.gov> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:39 PM Subject: RE: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > Did Job sacrifice a son? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patsy Caleb [mailto:studentarchaeologist@home.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:11 PM > To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > The original "Thou Shalt not kill" reads "Thou shalt not kill without a > reason" from the Lost Books of the Bible and forgotten Books of Eden" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Morrison, Jr. <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:16 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > What "animal" gives its life freely to death? > > The ONLY one that could is MAN (human). And even MAN does not do so > > hesitation. Could you honestly take a child of YOUR'S and kill the child > as > > an offering? For whatever the "rewards" that were promised. Could you? > > When did Job sacarafice is son? Before or after the 10 Commandments were > > writen? Why? Isn't one of the Commandments "Thous Shall Not Kill"? > > Jim > > > > jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > good question > > > I think that the statement, offering of his life could be considered > to > > > be like Job in the Bible he really didn't do it willing but when he did > > God > > > blessed him. Kind of like the warrior does giving thanks to the animal's > > > spirit so he could feed his family. > > > Walk in Beauty > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > >From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:27:28 -0500 > > > > > > > >I have one question here just for clarification. It doesn't mean I'm > > > >challenging your statement, it just means I have a question, OK? If > the > > > >animal is giving an offering of it's life, why does it run away? > > > > > > > >dusty > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: Elkdreamer Wilkins <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 5:19 AM > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Jim > > > > > #1 question > > > > > Another word for the supreme being > > > > > #2 the offering of its life > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:23:34 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > >Two quick questions: > > > > > >1) Who is "Grand Father"? > > > > > >2) The ANIMAL is giving an offering when IT is killed? > > > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > > > >jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > > > >http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:36 PM > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Dennis > > > > > > > I am sorry if I offended you in anyway. My intrest is in all > > > >things > > > > > > > Choctaw. and Spirituality is one of the aspects of it. To > > understand > > > > > >Indian > > > > > > > people you have to dig deep into their thought pattern. When > they > > > >killed > > > > > > > animals for food and clothing they said a prayer To Grandfather > > for > > > >the > > > > > > > offering that the animal gave and gave respect to the animal > also. > > > >When > > > > > >they > > > > > > > did beadwork they put part of their spirit in it also. when a > > object > > > >was > > > > > > > discarded it was done with respect. Spirtuality was considered > in > > > >all > > > > > >things > > > > > > > done. That is one of the reasons that the Europeans that came > here > > > > > > > misunderstood our people and their ways. > > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Dennis Boswell <dennisb@primenet.com> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:56:57 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Message for Elkdreamer and Dusty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regarding who subscribes to CHAHTA-L and why, permit me to > > suggest > > > >that > > > > > > > >this list very likely has Choctaw and non-Choctaw subscribers. > > > >Among > > > > > >both > > > > > > > >groups, there are those who have an exclusive interest in > > religion > > > >all > > > > > >the > > > > > > > >way to those who have an exclusive interest in some other > aspect > > of > > > > > >Choctaw > > > > > > > >life but no interest at all in religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In my case, I find Choctaw religious beliefs and the recent > > > >discussion > > > > > > > >surrounding them educational and thought provoking. However, my > > > > > >personal > > > > > > > >interest does not directly concern Choctaw religion. It is very > > > >narrow > > > > > >and > > > > > > > >concerns central Mississippi, pre-removal Choctaw social and > > family > > > > > > > >customs, very narrowly defined examples of the Choctaw language > > as > > > > > >about > > > > > > > >1800, relationships with early white settlers, trails and paths > > > > > >followed > > > > > >by > > > > > > > >these Choctaw in relationship to today's central Mississippi > > county > > > > > > > >boundaries and the impact of removal on these same Choctaw with > > > > > >specific > > > > > > > >emphasis on the Durant Choctaw clan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >If I unsubscribe, which I will do one day (to return at a later > > > >date), > > > > > >it > > > > > > > >will have nothing to do with whether I do or do not "learn > other > > > > > >religious > > > > > > > >views," "heat in the kitchen" or "sensitive subjects." It will > > have > > > > > > > >everything to do with the fact that I subscribe to about > > > >thirty-five > > > > > >lists, > > > > > > > >receive mountains of email and have priorities on my time and > my > > > > > >interests > > > > > > > >that are quite different than anyone else on this list - a > > comment > > > >that > > > > > > > >about everyone of you can make. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Recognize that one of the wonderful aspects of CHAHTA-L (in > > > >comparison > > > > > >with > > > > > > > >virtually all na hollo lists) is the diversity of thought, > > > >background, > > > > > > > >education and perspective it offers. Were I to make one > > suggestion > > > >to > > > > > >those > > > > > > > >of you who clearly dominate this list, please guard against > > > >becoming > > > > > >too > > > > > > > >clannish lest the very diversity that enriches this site might > in > > > >time > > > > > > > >vanish leaving something less in its wake than you enjoy today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 08:50 AM 03/31/2001 -0800, you wrote: > > > > > > > >>Halito Dusty and All list members > > > > > > > >> I believe that we all have the right to believe in the way > > that > > > >we > > > > > >want > > > > > > > >>to. And in this aspect the right to discuss our and each > others > > > >views > > > > > >in > > > > > > > >>a intellegent and Adult way. Aparentlly the ones that left > will > > in > > > >no > > > > > >way > > > > > > > >>ever learn that there are other views than their own. Like I > > have > > > > > >always > > > > > > > >>been told if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. > I > > > >guess > > > > > > > >>that is what they did. Lets keep up the heat I'm having fun. > > > > > > > >> Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > >> Elkdreamer > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > > > > > >>>Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > >>>To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > >>>Subject: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > >>>Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:38:58 -0600 > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>We lost another 5 listmembers this morning. Don't know for > > what > > > > > >reason. > > > > > > > >>>While I suspect sensitive subject matter may be the reason, > > this > > > >is > > > > > >only > > > > > > > >>>a > > > > > > > >>>supposition on my part. I have absolutely no objection to > the > > > >topic > > > > > > > >>>continuing if that's what you guys want. Among other > > > >peculiarities > > > > > >and > > > > > > > >>>character faults, I happen to wholeheartedly support the > First > > > > > >Amendment > > > > > > > >>>on > > > > > > > >>>this particular topic. What do you guys think?? > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > > > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't post it > > to > > > >the > > > > > >list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at > > > > > >CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Visit Judy White's pages at > http://accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, data, etc. > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >

It was Abraham. He was ordered by God to sacrifice his son. In the end he did not have to follow through? thurman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > I was going to ask that same question. I don't remember Job making > sacrifice. He complained a lot (lol), but his family members died from > other causes, not from sacrifice. > > dusty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colin Kelley <CKELLEY@swpa.gov> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:39 PM > Subject: RE: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > Did Job sacrifice a son? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Patsy Caleb [mailto:studentarchaeologist@home.com] > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:11 PM > > To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > The original "Thou Shalt not kill" reads "Thou shalt not kill without a > > reason" from the Lost Books of the Bible and forgotten Books of Eden" > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jim Morrison, Jr. <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > What "animal" gives its life freely to death? > > > The ONLY one that could is MAN (human). And even MAN does not do so > > > hesitation. Could you honestly take a child of YOUR'S and kill the child > > as > > > an offering? For whatever the "rewards" that were promised. Could you? > > > When did Job sacarafice is son? Before or after the 10 Commandments were > > > writen? Why? Isn't one of the Commandments "Thous Shall Not Kill"? > > > Jim > > > > > > jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:12 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > good question > > > > I think that the statement, offering of his life could be > considered > > to > > > > be like Job in the Bible he really didn't do it willing but when he > did > > > God > > > > blessed him. Kind of like the warrior does giving thanks to the > animal's > > > > spirit so he could feed his family. > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:27:28 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >I have one question here just for clarification. It doesn't mean I'm > > > > >challenging your statement, it just means I have a question, OK? If > > the > > > > >animal is giving an offering of it's life, why does it run away? > > > > > > > > > >dusty > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: Elkdreamer Wilkins <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 5:19 AM > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Jim > > > > > > #1 question > > > > > > Another word for the supreme being > > > > > > #2 the offering of its life > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:23:34 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Two quick questions: > > > > > > >1) Who is "Grand Father"? > > > > > > >2) The ANIMAL is giving an offering when IT is killed? > > > > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > >jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > > > > >http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > >From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:36 PM > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Dennis > > > > > > > > I am sorry if I offended you in anyway. My intrest is in all > > > > >things > > > > > > > > Choctaw. and Spirituality is one of the aspects of it. To > > > understand > > > > > > >Indian > > > > > > > > people you have to dig deep into their thought pattern. When > > they > > > > >killed > > > > > > > > animals for food and clothing they said a prayer To > Grandfather > > > for > > > > >the > > > > > > > > offering that the animal gave and gave respect to the animal > > also. > > > > >When > > > > > > >they > > > > > > > > did beadwork they put part of their spirit in it also. when a > > > object > > > > >was > > > > > > > > discarded it was done with respect. Spirtuality was considered > > in > > > > >all > > > > > > >things > > > > > > > > done. That is one of the reasons that the Europeans that came > > here > > > > > > > > misunderstood our people and their ways. > > > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Dennis Boswell <dennisb@primenet.com> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:56:57 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Message for Elkdreamer and Dusty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regarding who subscribes to CHAHTA-L and why, permit me to > > > suggest > > > > >that > > > > > > > > >this list very likely has Choctaw and non-Choctaw > subscribers. > > > > >Among > > > > > > >both > > > > > > > > >groups, there are those who have an exclusive interest in > > > religion > > > > >all > > > > > > >the > > > > > > > > >way to those who have an exclusive interest in some other > > aspect > > > of > > > > > > >Choctaw > > > > > > > > >life but no interest at all in religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In my case, I find Choctaw religious beliefs and the recent > > > > >discussion > > > > > > > > >surrounding them educational and thought provoking. However, > my > > > > > > >personal > > > > > > > > >interest does not directly concern Choctaw religion. It is > very > > > > >narrow > > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > >concerns central Mississippi, pre-removal Choctaw social and > > > family > > > > > > > > >customs, very narrowly defined examples of the Choctaw > language > > > as > > > > > > >about > > > > > > > > >1800, relationships with early white settlers, trails and > paths > > > > > > >followed > > > > > > >by > > > > > > > > >these Choctaw in relationship to today's central Mississippi > > > county > > > > > > > > >boundaries and the impact of removal on these same Choctaw > with > > > > > > >specific > > > > > > > > >emphasis on the Durant Choctaw clan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >If I unsubscribe, which I will do one day (to return at a > later > > > > >date), > > > > > > >it > > > > > > > > >will have nothing to do with whether I do or do not "learn > > other > > > > > > >religious > > > > > > > > >views," "heat in the kitchen" or "sensitive subjects." It > will > > > have > > > > > > > > >everything to do with the fact that I subscribe to about > > > > >thirty-five > > > > > > >lists, > > > > > > > > >receive mountains of email and have priorities on my time and > > my > > > > > > >interests > > > > > > > > >that are quite different than anyone else on this list - a > > > comment > > > > >that > > > > > > > > >about everyone of you can make. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Recognize that one of the wonderful aspects of CHAHTA-L (in > > > > >comparison > > > > > > >with > > > > > > > > >virtually all na hollo lists) is the diversity of thought, > > > > >background, > > > > > > > > >education and perspective it offers. Were I to make one > > > suggestion > > > > >to > > > > > > >those > > > > > > > > >of you who clearly dominate this list, please guard against > > > > >becoming > > > > > > >too > > > > > > > > >clannish lest the very diversity that enriches this site > might > > in > > > > >time > > > > > > > > >vanish leaving something less in its wake than you enjoy > today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 08:50 AM 03/31/2001 -0800, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Halito Dusty and All list members > > > > > > > > >> I believe that we all have the right to believe in the way > > > that > > > > >we > > > > > > >want > > > > > > > > >>to. And in this aspect the right to discuss our and each > > others > > > > >views > > > > > > >in > > > > > > > > >>a intellegent and Adult way. Aparentlly the ones that left > > will > > > in > > > > >no > > > > > > >way > > > > > > > > >>ever learn that there are other views than their own. Like I > > > have > > > > > > >always > > > > > > > > >>been told if you can't stand the heat get out of the > kitchen. > > I > > > > >guess > > > > > > > > >>that is what they did. Lets keep up the heat I'm having fun. > > > > > > > > >> Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > > >> Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > > > > > > >>>Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >>>To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >>>Subject: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > >>>Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:38:58 -0600 > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>>We lost another 5 listmembers this morning. Don't know for > > > what > > > > > > >reason. > > > > > > > > >>>While I suspect sensitive subject matter may be the reason, > > > this > > > > >is > > > > > > >only > > > > > > > > >>>a > > > > > > > > >>>supposition on my part. I have absolutely no objection to > > the > > > > >topic > > > > > > > > >>>continuing if that's what you guys want. Among other > > > > >peculiarities > > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > >>>character faults, I happen to wholeheartedly support the > > First > > > > > > >Amendment > > > > > > > > >>>on > > > > > > > > >>>this particular topic. What do you guys think?? > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>>dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > > > > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't post > it > > > to > > > > >the > > > > > > >list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at > > > > > > >CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Visit Judy White's pages at > > http://accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, data, etc. > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ >

Thank you!! I told everybody at the beginning of this discussion I WAS NOT A BIBLE TOOTER. I am a MAN and I do make mistakes!! Jim jmorsn@coastalnet.com http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thurman & Elizabeth Harrison" <harriso5@ix.netcom.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > It was Abraham. He was ordered by God to sacrifice his son. In the end he > did not have to follow through? > thurman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > I was going to ask that same question. I don't remember Job making > > sacrifice. He complained a lot (lol), but his family members died from > > other causes, not from sacrifice. > > > > dusty > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Colin Kelley <CKELLEY@swpa.gov> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:39 PM > > Subject: RE: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > Did Job sacrifice a son? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Patsy Caleb [mailto:studentarchaeologist@home.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:11 PM > > > To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > The original "Thou Shalt not kill" reads "Thou shalt not kill without a > > > reason" from the Lost Books of the Bible and forgotten Books of Eden" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Jim Morrison, Jr. <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:16 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > What "animal" gives its life freely to death? > > > > The ONLY one that could is MAN (human). And even MAN does not do so > > > > hesitation. Could you honestly take a child of YOUR'S and kill the > child > > > as > > > > an offering? For whatever the "rewards" that were promised. Could you? > > > > When did Job sacarafice is son? Before or after the 10 Commandments > were > > > > writen? Why? Isn't one of the Commandments "Thous Shall Not Kill"? > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > > http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:12 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > > > > good question > > > > > I think that the statement, offering of his life could be > > considered > > > to > > > > > be like Job in the Bible he really didn't do it willing but when he > > did > > > > God > > > > > blessed him. Kind of like the warrior does giving thanks to the > > animal's > > > > > spirit so he could feed his family. > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:27:28 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > >I have one question here just for clarification. It doesn't mean > I'm > > > > > >challenging your statement, it just means I have a question, OK? > If > > > the > > > > > >animal is giving an offering of it's life, why does it run away? > > > > > > > > > > > >dusty > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: Elkdreamer Wilkins <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > >Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 5:19 AM > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Jim > > > > > > > #1 question > > > > > > > Another word for the supreme being > > > > > > > #2 the offering of its life > > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:23:34 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Two quick questions: > > > > > > > >1) Who is "Grand Father"? > > > > > > > >2) The ANIMAL is giving an offering when IT is killed? > > > > > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > > > > > >http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > >From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:36 PM > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Dennis > > > > > > > > > I am sorry if I offended you in anyway. My intrest is in > all > > > > > >things > > > > > > > > > Choctaw. and Spirituality is one of the aspects of it. To > > > > understand > > > > > > > >Indian > > > > > > > > > people you have to dig deep into their thought pattern. When > > > they > > > > > >killed > > > > > > > > > animals for food and clothing they said a prayer To > > Grandfather > > > > for > > > > > >the > > > > > > > > > offering that the animal gave and gave respect to the animal > > > also. > > > > > >When > > > > > > > >they > > > > > > > > > did beadwork they put part of their spirit in it also. when > a > > > > object > > > > > >was > > > > > > > > > discarded it was done with respect. Spirtuality was > considered > > > in > > > > > >all > > > > > > > >things > > > > > > > > > done. That is one of the reasons that the Europeans that > came > > > here > > > > > > > > > misunderstood our people and their ways. > > > > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Dennis Boswell <dennisb@primenet.com> > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:56:57 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Message for Elkdreamer and Dusty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regarding who subscribes to CHAHTA-L and why, permit me to > > > > suggest > > > > > >that > > > > > > > > > >this list very likely has Choctaw and non-Choctaw > > subscribers. > > > > > >Among > > > > > > > >both > > > > > > > > > >groups, there are those who have an exclusive interest in > > > > religion > > > > > >all > > > > > > > >the > > > > > > > > > >way to those who have an exclusive interest in some other > > > aspect > > > > of > > > > > > > >Choctaw > > > > > > > > > >life but no interest at all in religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In my case, I find Choctaw religious beliefs and the recent > > > > > >discussion > > > > > > > > > >surrounding them educational and thought provoking. > However, > > my > > > > > > > >personal > > > > > > > > > >interest does not directly concern Choctaw religion. It is > > very > > > > > >narrow > > > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > >concerns central Mississippi, pre-removal Choctaw social > and > > > > family > > > > > > > > > >customs, very narrowly defined examples of the Choctaw > > language > > > > as > > > > > > > >about > > > > > > > > > >1800, relationships with early white settlers, trails and > > paths > > > > > > > >followed > > > > > > > >by > > > > > > > > > >these Choctaw in relationship to today's central > Mississippi > > > > county > > > > > > > > > >boundaries and the impact of removal on these same Choctaw > > with > > > > > > > >specific > > > > > > > > > >emphasis on the Durant Choctaw clan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >If I unsubscribe, which I will do one day (to return at a > > later > > > > > >date), > > > > > > > >it > > > > > > > > > >will have nothing to do with whether I do or do not "learn > > > other > > > > > > > >religious > > > > > > > > > >views," "heat in the kitchen" or "sensitive subjects." It > > will > > > > have > > > > > > > > > >everything to do with the fact that I subscribe to about > > > > > >thirty-five > > > > > > > >lists, > > > > > > > > > >receive mountains of email and have priorities on my time > and > > > my > > > > > > > >interests > > > > > > > > > >that are quite different than anyone else on this list - a > > > > comment > > > > > >that > > > > > > > > > >about everyone of you can make. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Recognize that one of the wonderful aspects of CHAHTA-L (in > > > > > >comparison > > > > > > > >with > > > > > > > > > >virtually all na hollo lists) is the diversity of thought, > > > > > >background, > > > > > > > > > >education and perspective it offers. Were I to make one > > > > suggestion > > > > > >to > > > > > > > >those > > > > > > > > > >of you who clearly dominate this list, please guard against > > > > > >becoming > > > > > > > >too > > > > > > > > > >clannish lest the very diversity that enriches this site > > might > > > in > > > > > >time > > > > > > > > > >vanish leaving something less in its wake than you enjoy > > today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 08:50 AM 03/31/2001 -0800, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>Halito Dusty and All list members > > > > > > > > > >> I believe that we all have the right to believe in the > way > > > > that > > > > > >we > > > > > > > >want > > > > > > > > > >>to. And in this aspect the right to discuss our and each > > > others > > > > > >views > > > > > > > >in > > > > > > > > > >>a intellegent and Adult way. Aparentlly the ones that left > > > will > > > > in > > > > > >no > > > > > > > >way > > > > > > > > > >>ever learn that there are other views than their own. Like > I > > > > have > > > > > > > >always > > > > > > > > > >>been told if you can't stand the heat get out of the > > kitchen. > > > I > > > > > >guess > > > > > > > > > >>that is what they did. Lets keep up the heat I'm having > fun. > > > > > > > > > >> Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > > > >> Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>>From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > > > > > > > >>>Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > >>>To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > >>>Subject: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > >>>Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:38:58 -0600 > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>We lost another 5 listmembers this morning. Don't know > for > > > > what > > > > > > > >reason. > > > > > > > > > >>>While I suspect sensitive subject matter may be the > reason, > > > > this > > > > > >is > > > > > > > >only > > > > > > > > > >>>a > > > > > > > > > >>>supposition on my part. I have absolutely no objection > to > > > the > > > > > >topic > > > > > > > > > >>>continuing if that's what you guys want. Among other > > > > > >peculiarities > > > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > >>>character faults, I happen to wholeheartedly support the > > > First > > > > > > > >Amendment > > > > > > > > > >>>on > > > > > > > > > >>>this particular topic. What do you guys think?? > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > > > > > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't > post > > it > > > > to > > > > > >the > > > > > > > >list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at > > > > > > > >CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > > > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the > quotes > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Visit Judy White's pages at > > > http://accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, data, etc. > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: > Send msg. to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >