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    1. Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies
    2. Dusty
    3. Both. For those who are offended by the word "Indian", please substitute "Native American". I have used both and am personall not offended by "Indian". dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Boswell <dennisb@primenet.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > Dusty, did you mean to say "Indian" or should the question have read, "What > is a Native American?" > > At 08:29 PM 04/05/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >Gemma and all: > > > >I am intrigued and challenged by your question, "Does the community still > >exist." I have pondered this question for many years and under many > >different circumstances., and would like to get some feedback from other > >listmembers. > > > >What is the state of the Indian community today..... > >Specifically, WHAT IS AN INDIAN? Is it a matter of blood quantum? > >Lifestyle? Beliefs? > > > >There can be no argument that there is definite predjudice among NA as to > >"who is Indian" and who is not. There are "skins" and there are "bloods". > >Why the separation? What does it take to be considered "Indian enough". > >Are some NAs practicing a racism they would decry in other races.? Don't > >quote me the government's definition of Indian, I'm well aware of that. > > > >I want the opinions of others on this list. > > > >dusty > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: David and Tommie Marsters <haili65@proaxis.com> > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:30 PM > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > Well put, Gemma. I agree. > > > Tommie > > > > > > Gemma West wrote: > > > > > > > What has happened for many people is that they wander through life > >trying to > > > > figure out what is wrong...trying to figure out why they don't fit in. > > > > Attempts are made to mold themselves into someone else's defintions of > >good > > > > and bad. These attempts fail. Finally that person decides to look to > >their > > > > ancestors. They find themselves. They finally feel comfortable. It is > > > > obvious to all that ancestors shape our biological characteristics. It > >is > > > > obvious to me that ancestors shape our spirituality. The sad thing is > >that > > > > sometimes the assimilation is so thick that you can grow up around > >Indians and > > > > still not know your own spirituality. The beautiful thing is finding > >the few > > > > who have refused assimilation and are willing to share knowledge. > > > > > > > > When non-Indian people ask to be allowed into the community it causes us > >to > > > > question ourselves. Does community still exist? What are they here to > >get? > > > > Are we really different from them? I think the great thing about this > >reverse > > > > acculturation is that it is spurring some of us to re-embrace our own > > > > ancestors. It is removing the shame that our elders had to live with. > >This > > > > shame had no place and that is becoming clear to new generations. If we > >can > > > > influence people to live a balanced life then that is a great thing. > >After > > > > all, our children and their children will have to live in a world shaped > >by > > > > the parents. We can not afford to be selfish with principles of > >balance. It > > > > seems that they need these principles much more than we do. > > > > > > > > Barbara Ellison <greybird7@pisp.net> wrote: > > > > "Our spirituality" is not "just an idea" and it is not something we went > >to > > > > class and learned somewhere, or got off the internet...it is born in us > > > > (which is obvious to those Indians who were raised surrounded by a white > > > > society) and a non-Indian may be able to learn from us some things, but > >they > > > > cannot "acquire" what they are not born with, and their attempts to put > > > > themselves on an "equal footing", with Indians, so to speak, is at best > > > > futile...and at worst, an attempt at cultural theft... > > > > B. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 8:59 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > I shall play devil's advocate again and expose my rear to everyone's > > > > slings > > > > > and arrows... > > > > > > > > > > What about those people who do not "want to be NA", but just think > >our > > > > > spirituality, philosophy and way of life is a good idea. I've had > > > > countless > > > > > elders tell me, "I don't care what kind of blood you have, as long as > >it's > > > > > human". Just because an Anglo wants to practice our ways because it > >works > > > > > for them, doesn't mean they deserve to be belittled by a derogatory > >name. > > > > > Are there really that many among us that are so arrogant to do so. > > > > > > > > > > Where did we ever get the idea that that we were so exclusive? Isn't > >that > > > > > TRUE racism? > > > > > > > > > > dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: John & Arla Williams <jaws@crosstel.net> > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 8:45 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elkdreamer, Where did the term come from? Arla > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 8:38 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Fay > > > > > > > Mostly people that want to be N/A and really have no Indian blood > >at > > > > all > > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > > > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the > >quotes > > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Visit Judy White's pages at > > > > http://accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, data, etc. > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > Regards, > > Dennis K. Boswell > 301 Crow Canyon Drive > Folsom, CA 95630 > > Tel: (916) 987-3599 > Fax: (916) 987-3555 > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ >

    04/05/2001 03:56:23
    1. Re: [CHAHTA] Question for Dusty
    2. Choctaw
    3. I noticed that when I reply to a post from Tsana that it was showing that it was going directly to her and not to the Chahta-L, but any of the other posts that I reply to go to the rootsweb.com address. I noticed this and so I have been replying to Tsana's posts by hitting reply on one of the other posts and then changing the subject line. Do you know why this is happening or what I might be doing wrong? Yokoke, Shelley

    04/05/2001 06:34:05
    1. Re: [CHAHTA] Question for Dusty
    2. Dusty
    3. My pooter has two buttons. One for "reply" and one for "reply to all". If I hit "reply" it goes only to the person who sent the message. If I hit "reply to all", it goes to the whole list. I can't say why yours is doing what it's doing. Gremlins?? dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: Choctaw <choctaw@bscn.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Question for Dusty > I noticed that when I reply to a post from Tsana that it was showing that it > was going directly to her and not to the Chahta-L, but any of the other > posts that I reply to go to the rootsweb.com address. I noticed this and so > I have been replying to Tsana's posts by hitting reply on one of the other > posts and then changing the subject line. Do you know why this is happening > or what I might be doing wrong? > Yokoke, > Shelley > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Visit Judy White's pages at http://accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, data, etc. >

    04/06/2001 03:40:47
    1. Re: [CHAHTA] Question for Dusty
    2. Linda Branum
    3. Dusty if you put a comma between each e-mail addy it will send to each one you want. Not the reply to all. Just put a comma between each one no space and see if it will work for you that way. That way you can send to each one you want not to all. Let me know if this works for you. I just found out this the other day. Also if that person isn't in your address book all you have to do is type in their e-mail addy. Regards, Linda Kirby Branum ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Question for Dusty > My pooter has two buttons. One for "reply" and one for "reply to all". If > I hit "reply" it goes only to the person who sent the message. If I hit > "reply to all", it goes to the whole list. > > I can't say why yours is doing what it's doing. Gremlins?? > > dusty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Choctaw <choctaw@bscn.com> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:34 AM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Question for Dusty > > > > I noticed that when I reply to a post from Tsana that it was showing that > it > > was going directly to her and not to the Chahta-L, but any of the other > > posts that I reply to go to the rootsweb.com address. I noticed this and > so > > I have been replying to Tsana's posts by hitting reply on one of the other > > posts and then changing the subject line. Do you know why this is > happening > > or what I might be doing wrong? > > Yokoke, > > Shelley > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Visit Judy White's pages at > http://accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, data, etc. > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Visit Judy White's pages at http://accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, data, etc. >

    04/06/2001 07:46:00