----- Original Message ----- From: <LPSRLS@aol.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] White Buffalo > For any one who wants to see the white buffalo Miracle . > here's the site . > www.homestead.com/whitebuffalomiracle/miracle > Ron Try this is works just fine and Ron she is a real cutie!!!!! http://www.homestead.com/whitebuffalmiracle/ Cecilia > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: > Send msg. to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >

What would you like to know about Pine Ridge? I'm a member of a group that makes two trips a year there trying to help them. They just returned from their spring trip with a semi full of furniture and things for the homes and I could send you her email privately if you want it. Cecilia ----- Original Message ----- From: "faynshep" <faynshep@telapex.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > Yes, she is about 20 miles from the administration bldg. I haven't heard > back from her yet. Her husband and a few others are still in the building, > and I'm going to make sure if it is the Red Cloud building. I think that is > the one, but it may not be another bldg and I will find out. > Fay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John & Arla Williams <jaws@crosstel.net> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:36 AM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > Fay, Is Iris from Pine Ridge? Arla > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "faynshep" <faynshep@telapex.com> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 3:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > > > > I think it's been nearer to a year. Will check with Iris and see what's > > > going on now. > > > Fay > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Choctaw Home Page: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't post it to the list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com >

Jim, as your sister I know you others here don't and you do appear to come across rude. I understand your quest for knowledge, just remember that there are others striving for the same goal and please remember to do unto others as you wish them to do on to you. Respect ones opinion. sis > Don't worry. It is obvious that you do not concern yourself with > intelligence. > Jim > > jmorsn@coastalnet.com > http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gemma West" <gemmawest@usa.net> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 3:09 PM > Subject: [CHAHTA] Jim, Never ending quest > > > > It should be clear to you that I don't concern myself with Webster's > > definition of intelligence. If not then let me assure you of this fact. > > > > Frankly your whole demeanor on this list reeks of disrespect or playground > > taunting. Your referral to people not choosing to name themselves afer > > dolphins is just another in a long line of examples. But, of course, I > may be > > completely wrong. If you do indeed have Indian ancestors I hope that their > > spirits prevail on you to change. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gemma > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >

Cecilia, Do you know an elderly man and his son named Ross and Mathew or a lady named Iris? Sorry I don't know their last names. Fay ----- Original Message ----- From: Cecilia D. <papllion@mnsinc.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > What would you like to know about Pine Ridge? I'm a member of a group that > makes two trips a year there trying to help them. They just returned from > their spring trip with a semi full of furniture and things for the homes > and I could send you her email privately if you want it. > Cecilia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "faynshep" <faynshep@telapex.com> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:07 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > Yes, she is about 20 miles from the administration bldg. I haven't heard > > back from her yet. Her husband and a few others are still in the > building, > > and I'm going to make sure if it is the Red Cloud building. I think that > is > > the one, but it may not be another bldg and I will find out. > > Fay > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John & Arla Williams <jaws@crosstel.net> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:36 AM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > > > > Fay, Is Iris from Pine Ridge? Arla > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "faynshep" <faynshep@telapex.com> > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 3:12 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > > > > > > > I think it's been nearer to a year. Will check with Iris and see > what's > > > > going on now. > > > > Fay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't post it to the > list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at > CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >

Anything at all would help my feelings. I can't really explain and a few do understand but it's hard for me to tell you. I'll take any thing I can get. I would really like to have some pictures. We were there in 1985 and because of bad health, have not been able to go back. A lot of the things I once did, I can no longer do and I pester my friends and family asking for pictures. I would love to email with someone there on the rez. I just worry about them and I think I would feel better if I could stay in touch. Fay ----- Original Message ----- From: Cecilia D. <papllion@mnsinc.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > What would you like to know about Pine Ridge? I'm a member of a group that > makes two trips a year there trying to help them. They just returned from > their spring trip with a semi full of furniture and things for the homes > and I could send you her email privately if you want it. > Cecilia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "faynshep" <faynshep@telapex.com> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:07 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > Yes, she is about 20 miles from the administration bldg. I haven't heard > > back from her yet. Her husband and a few others are still in the > building, > > and I'm going to make sure if it is the Red Cloud building. I think that > is > > the one, but it may not be another bldg and I will find out. > > Fay > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John & Arla Williams <jaws@crosstel.net> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:36 AM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > > > > Fay, Is Iris from Pine Ridge? Arla > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "faynshep" <faynshep@telapex.com> > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 3:12 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > > > > > > > I think it's been nearer to a year. Will check with Iris and see > what's > > > > going on now. > > > > Fay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't post it to the > list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at > CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >

Dusty, What a great thought! My nephew is a potter and I'll have to tell him about this! Take care and go safely! Tsana ----- Original Message ----- From: Dusty <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > That's why when I give away (or occasionally sell) a pot, I ask that if it > is broken or when the owner is tired of it, he return it to the earth by > burying it. The pottery is made from native clay and is, literally, the > dust of my ancestors. > > dusty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Elkdreamer Wilkins <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 8:55 AM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > Yes it is Patsy > > The dust has the flesh and bones of our ancestors. > > Walk in Beauty > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > >From: "Patsy Caleb" <studentarchaeologist@home.com> > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > >Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:23:31 -0700 > > > > > >Even every speck of dust > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Elkdreamer Wilkins <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 8:44 AM > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > Halito Jim > > > > The spirit of all is impornant. Every animal, Plant, bug, bird, > bacteria > > > > etc: are part of the circle of life and must be respected as such. > > > > The prayer that we say, All my relations means. > > > > A-ho Grandfather > > > > A prayer for the four leggeged, two leggeged, winged and finned, > > >the > > > > tree nation's, the creeping and crawling. > > > > All my relations > > > > A-ho > > > > Walk in beauty > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > >Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:53:33 -0400 > > > > > > > > > >I am not a student of anthroplogy so I looked it up in the > dictionary!! > > > > >anthropology = the study of man, esp. of variety, physical and > cultural > > > > >characteristics, distribution, customs, social relationships, etc. of > > > > >mankind: often restricted to the study of the institutions, myths, > etc. > > >of > > > > >nonliterate peoples. > > > > >Hmmmm > > > > >As for "Flight or Fight", I never thought of it as a "human" trait, > but > > >as > > > > >an animal one. > > > > >You pray to the "sprit" of a cow, pig, chicken, egg, etc. for them > > >being > > >so > > > > >nice as to allow themselves to be killed so that you can eat them? > > >WOW!!! > > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > >jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > > >http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:34 PM > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Jim > > > > > > Grandfather is a term that we use in respect for the Creator of > > >life. > > > > > > And as a student of anthroplogy I also know about the flight or > > >fight > > > > > > reasoning that humans have. This instinct is what has enabled our > > > > >species > > > > > > to survive. The offering that I refer to is the respect that we > give > > >to > > > > >the > > > > > > animals spirit and acknowledging that we all are part of the > circle > > >of > > > > >life. > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:42:23 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Elk > > > > > > >Is your "Grand Father" the same as mine? Who is your supreme > being? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >An "offering" would be like a "gift". The only animal that has > the > > > > > > >intelligence to make that decission is "MAN". We have a natural > > > > >instinct > > > > > > >called "Flight or Fight". All "animals" will rather fight than > > >die!! > > > > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > >jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > > > > >http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > >From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > >Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 6:19 AM > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Jim > > > > > > > > #1 question > > > > > > > > Another word for the supreme being > > > > > > > > #2 the offering of its life > > > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:23:34 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Two quick questions: > > > > > > > > >1) Who is "Grand Father"? > > > > > > > > >2) The ANIMAL is giving an offering when IT is killed? > > > > > > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > > > > > > >http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > >From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:36 PM > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Dennis > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry if I offended you in anyway. My intrest is in > > >all > > > > > > >things > > > > > > > > > > Choctaw. and Spirituality is one of the aspects of it. To > > > > >understand > > > > > > > > >Indian > > > > > > > > > > people you have to dig deep into their thought pattern. > When > > > > >they > > > > > > >killed > > > > > > > > > > animals for food and clothing they said a prayer To > > >Grandfather > > > > >for > > > > > > >the > > > > > > > > > > offering that the animal gave and gave respect to the > animal > > > > >also. > > > > > > >When > > > > > > > > >they > > > > > > > > > > did beadwork they put part of their spirit in it also. > when > > >a > > > > >object > > > > > > >was > > > > > > > > > > discarded it was done with respect. Spirtuality was > > >considered > > > > >in > > > > > > >all > > > > > > > > >things > > > > > > > > > > done. That is one of the reasons that the Europeans that > > >came > > > > >here > > > > > > > > > > misunderstood our people and their ways. > > > > > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Dennis Boswell <dennisb@primenet.com> > > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:56:57 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Message for Elkdreamer and Dusty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regarding who subscribes to CHAHTA-L and why, permit me > to > > > > >suggest > > > > > > >that > > > > > > > > > > >this list very likely has Choctaw and non-Choctaw > > >subscribers. > > > > > > >Among > > > > > > > > >both > > > > > > > > > > >groups, there are those who have an exclusive interest in > > > > >religion > > > > > > >all > > > > > > > > >the > > > > > > > > > > >way to those who have an exclusive interest in some oth er > > > > >aspect > > > > >of > > > > > > > > >Choctaw > > > > > > > > > > >life but no interest at all in religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In my case, I find Choctaw religious beliefs and the > recent > > > > > > >discussion > > > > > > > > > > >surrounding them educational and thought provoking. > > >However, > > >my > > > > > > > > >personal > > > > > > > > > > >interest does not directly concern Choctaw religion. It > is > > >very > > > > > > >narrow > > > > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > >concerns central Mississippi, pre-removal Choctaw social > > >and > > > > >family > > > > > > > > > > >customs, very narrowly defined examples of the Choctaw > > >language > > > > >as > > > > > > > > >about > > > > > > > > > > >1800, relationships with early white settlers, trails and > > >paths > > > > > > > > >followed > > > > > > > > >by > > > > > > > > > > >these Choctaw in relationship to today's central > > >Mississippi > > > > >county > > > > > > > > > > >boundaries and the impact of removal on these same > Choctaw > > >with > > > > > > > > >specific > > > > > > > > > > >emphasis on the Durant Choctaw clan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >If I unsubscribe, which I will do one day (to return at a > > >later > > > > > > >date), > > > > > > > > >it > > > > > > > > > > >will have nothing to do with whether I do or do not > "learn > > > > >other > > > > > > > > >religious > > > > > > > > > > >views," "heat in the kitchen" or "sensitive subjects." It > > >will > > > > >have > > > > > > > > > > >everything to do with the fact that I subscribe to about > > > > > > >thirty-five > > > > > > > > >lists, > > > > > > > > > > >receive mountains of email and have priorities on my time > > >and > > > > >my > > > > > > > > >interests > > > > > > > > > > >that are quite different than anyone else on this list - > a > > > > >comment > > > > > > >that > > > > > > > > > > >about everyone of you can make. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Recognize that one of the wonderful aspects of CHAHTA-L > (in > > > > > > >comparison > > > > > > > > >with > > > > > > > > > > >virtually all na hollo lists) is the diversity of > thought, > > > > > > >background, > > > > > > > > > > >education and perspective it offers. Were I to make one > > > > >suggestion > > > > > > >to > > > > > > > > >those > > > > > > > > > > >of you who clearly dominate this list, please guard > against > > > > > > >becoming > > > > > > > > >too > > > > > > > > > > >clannish lest the very diversity that enriches this site > > >might > > > > >in > > > > > > >time > > > > > > > > > > >vanish leaving something less in its wake than you enjoy > > >today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 08:50 AM 03/31/2001 -0800, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>Halito Dusty and All list members > > > > > > > > > > >> I believe that we all have the right to believe in the > > >way > > > > >that > > > > > > >we > > > > > > > > >want > > > > > > > > > > >>to. And in this aspect the right to discuss our and each > > > > >others > > > > > > >views > > > > > > > > >in > > > > > > > > > > >>a intellegent and Adult way. Aparentlly the ones that > left > > > > >will > > > > >in > > > > > > >no > > > > > > > > >way > > > > > > > > > > >>ever learn that there are other views than their own. > Like > > >I > > > > >have > > > > > > > > >always > > > > > > > > > > >>been told if you can't stand the heat get out of the > > >kitchen. > > > > >I > > > > > > >guess > > > > > > > > > > >>that is what they did. Lets keep up the heat I'm having > > >fun. > > > > > > > > > > >> Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > > > > >> Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > > > > > > > > >>>Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > >>>To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > >>>Subject: [CHAHTA] TOPIC OF RELIGION > > > > > > > > > > >>>Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:38:58 -0600 > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>We lost another 5 listmembers this morning. Don't know > > >for > > > > >what > > > > > > > > >reason. > > > > > > > > > > >>>While I suspect sensitive subject matter may be the > > >reason, > > > > >this > > > > > > >is > > > > > > > > >only > > > > > > > > > > >>>a > > > > > > > > > > >>>supposition on my part. I have absolutely no objection > > >to > > > > >the > > > > > > >topic > > > > > > > > > > >>>continuing if that's what you guys want. Among other > > > > > > >peculiarities > > > > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > >>>character faults, I happen to wholeheartedly support > the > > > > >First > > > > > > > > >Amendment > > > > > > > > > > >>>on > > > > > > > > > > >>>this particular topic. What do you guys think?? > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > >Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Home Page: > > > > > > > > > > >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > > > >http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? 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Linda, I hope you don't think that I was putting our ancestors down! I wasn't and I also, am proud of their courage and the strife they lived through. But, I was just stating simple fact. Of course, as I said in another message, hindsight is 20/20. What would I have done in their shoes? Can't say! Yes, I agree with you that they had, as my granny would say "a lot of moxy" (sp?)! Tsana ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Branum <mamalin@1s.net> To: Tsa na Jordan <medicgirl78@yahoo.com>; <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Were all Brothers and Sisters > Hi Tsana, > Maybe that the reason the gov did what they did if we were all together we > would have had a lot more strength to over power them. If they scattered out > our people they had a much better chance. > Our people were sent to another land they didn't know and were like sheep > in a field. They didn't know their land and didn't have any protection. With > less people to withstand the terror they must have felt it made them feel > like little lambs. I do know they did the best they could and should be > given the PRAISE they deserve. > Thats why I am searching so hard for my ancestors. I want so bad to find > out where they migrated from. I know they moved to Okla Indian Territory in > the mid 1880's from somewhere in Texas but I want to know where my > GGGrandfather and GGGrandMother migrated from. > I know it had to be from La. or Mississippi but I'm not for sure. > It breaks my heart to think what the goverment put our ancestors thru to > make them leave their homelands during the winter. It was so hot in that > area and Okla is much colder that the Southern States. Our people didn't > know what winter was I don't think till they hit Okla Indian Territory. > I really get upset to know they were taken from their land and moved, > some didn't even have blankets. My heart crys out to our ancestors and I > give them all the PRAISE for their courage. > Regards, Linda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tsa na Jordan" <medicgirl78@yahoo.com> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 11:41 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Were all Brothers and Sisters > > > > Linda, > > You are sooo right. In fact, we all know, if we look at history, > that's > > one of the problems the Indians had. Had they banned together, they could > > have done better. But, they were divided and easy conquering for the > > whites. Just thoughts and my own opinion. > > Take care and go safely! > > Tsana > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Linda Branum <mamalin@1s.net> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Were all Brothers and Sisters > > > > > > > Hi Dusty and all, > > > I want to say that my brother looks full blood Indian but we are just > > > 1/32. I don't look a bit like and Indian but I have the same amt of > blood > > as > > > he does. > > > I feel the amt of Indian doesn't matter. We are all brothers and > sisters > > > just some of us have proof and others don't. > > > I think we should all remember TOGETHER WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL. All > of > > > us need to unite together and stop worring about how much blood we have > > but > > > our people were all at one time full blood so who cares if you are full > or > > > just a little. You are still my sister and brother and all are NA. > > > Regards, Linda Kirby Branum > > > > > > (Guynes and Sain are my Indian heritage surnames) Guynes being Choctaw > > and > > > documented and Sain Cherokee undocumented. But I feel ancestors calling > > from > > > both!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:29 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > Gemma and all: > > > > > > > > I am intrigued and challenged by your question, "Does the community > > still > > > > exist." I have pondered this question for many years and under many > > > > different circumstances., and would like to get some feedback from > other > > > > listmembers. > > > > > > > > What is the state of the Indian community today..... > > > > Specifically, WHAT IS AN INDIAN? Is it a matter of blood quantum? > > > > Lifestyle? Beliefs? > > > > > > > > There can be no argument that there is definite predjudice among NA as > > to > > > > "who is Indian" and who is not. There are "skins" and there are > > "bloods". > > > > Why the separation? What does it take to be considered "Indian > enough". > > > > Are some NAs practicing a racism they would decry in other races.? > > Don't > > > > quote me the government's definition of Indian, I'm well aware of > that. > > > > > > > > I want the opinions of others on this list. > > > > > > > > dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: David and Tommie Marsters <haili65@proaxis.com> > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:30 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well put, Gemma. I agree. > > > > > Tommie > > > > > > > > > > Gemma West wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What has happened for many people is that they wander through life > > > > trying to > > > > > > figure out what is wrong...trying to figure out why they don't fit > > in. > > > > > > Attempts are made to mold themselves into someone else's > defintions > > of > > > > good > > > > > > and bad. These attempts fail. Finally that person decides to > look > > to > > > > their > > > > > > ancestors. They find themselves. They finally feel comfortable. > > It > > > is > > > > > > obvious to all that ancestors shape our biological > characteristics. > > > It > > > > is > > > > > > obvious to me that ancestors shape our spirituality. The sad > thing > > is > > > > that > > > > > > sometimes the assimilation is so thick that you can grow up around > > > > Indians and > > > > > > still not know your own spirituality. The beautiful thing is > > finding > > > > the few > > > > > > who have refused assimilation and are willing to share knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > When non-Indian people ask to be allowed into the community it > > causes > > > us > > > > to > > > > > > question ourselves. Does community still exist? What are they > here > > > to > > > > get? > > > > > > Are we really different from them? I think the great thing about > > this > > > > reverse > > > > > > acculturation is that it is spurring some of us to re-embrace our > > own > > > > > > ancestors. It is removing the shame that our elders had to live > > with. > > > > This > > > > > > shame had no place and that is becoming clear to new generations. > > If > > > we > > > > can > > > > > > influence people to live a balanced life then that is a great > thing. > > > > After > > > > > > all, our children and their children will have to live in a world > > > shaped > > > > by > > > > > > the parents. We can not afford to be selfish with principles of > > > > balance. It > > > > > > seems that they need these principles much more than we do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Barbara Ellison <greybird7@pisp.net> wrote: > > > > > > "Our spirituality" is not "just an idea" and it is not something > we > > > went > > > > to > > > > > > class and learned somewhere, or got off the internet...it is born > in > > > us > > > > > > (which is obvious to those Indians who were raised surrounded by a > > > white > > > > > > society) and a non-Indian may be able to learn from us some > things, > > > but > > > > they > > > > > > cannot "acquire" what they are not born with, and their attempts > to > > > put > > > > > > themselves on an "equal footing", with Indians, so to speak, is at > > > best > > > > > > futile...and at worst, an attempt at cultural theft... > > > > > > B. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 8:59 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > I shall play devil's advocate again and expose my rear to > > everyone's > > > > > > slings > > > > > > > and arrows... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about those people who do not "want to be NA", but just > think > > > > our > > > > > > > spirituality, philosophy and way of life is a good idea. I've > had > > > > > > countless > > > > > > > elders tell me, "I don't care what kind of blood you have, as > long > > > as > > > > it's > > > > > > > human". Just because an Anglo wants to practice our ways > because > > it > > > > works > > > > > > > for them, doesn't mean they deserve to be belittled by a > > derogatory > > > > name. > > > > > > > Are there really that many among us that are so arrogant to do > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where did we ever get the idea that that we were so exclusive? > > > Isn't > > > > that > > > > > > > TRUE racism? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: John & Arla Williams <jaws@crosstel.net> > > > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 8:45 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elkdreamer, Where did the term come from? Arla > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 8:38 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Fay > > > > > > > > > Mostly people that want to be N/A and really have no Indian > > > blood > > > > at > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > > > > > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without > the > > > > quotes > > > > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... 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Yakoke juli , it has changed ! Ron

Hack back the URL and you'll find it: www.homestead.com/whitebuffalomiracle/ Juli At 09:21 PM 4/10/01 -0500, you wrote: >Getting message: page not found. >Kim >----- Original Message ----- >From: <LPSRLS@aol.com> >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:35 PM >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] White Buffalo > > > > For any one who wants to see the white buffalo Miracle . > > here's the site . > > www.homestead.com/whitebuffalomiracle/miracle > > Ron

Patsy, Pine Ridge is the Lakota Rez in South Dakota. Arla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patsy Caleb" <studentarchaeologist@home.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > what is pine ridge > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cecilia D. <papllion@mnsinc.com> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:26 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > What would you like to know about Pine Ridge? I'm a member of a group > that > > makes two trips a year there trying to help them. They just returned from > > their spring trip with a semi full of furniture and things for the homes > > and I could send you her email privately if you want it. > > Cecilia > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "faynshep" <faynshep@telapex.com> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > > > > Yes, she is about 20 miles from the administration bldg. I haven't > heard > > > back from her yet. Her husband and a few others are still in the > > building, > > > and I'm going to make sure if it is the Red Cloud building. I think > that > > is > > > the one, but it may not be another bldg and I will find out. > > > Fay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: John & Arla Williams <jaws@crosstel.net> > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:36 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > > > > > > > Fay, Is Iris from Pine Ridge? Arla > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "faynshep" <faynshep@telapex.com> > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 3:12 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it's been nearer to a year. Will check with Iris and see > > what's > > > > > going on now. > > > > > Fay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't post it to the > > list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at > > CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > >

yes Orange essential oils work great and they smell really good too. Arla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Collins" <2buckets@arbuckleonline.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] GNATS!! HELP!!!!!!! > Thanks Arla, > I noticed in your recipe Orange. I will try to find some and see if this > works for me. At this point I'm ready to try all remedies. > FYI A friend told me today that his grand mother had a concoction she used > to attract and kill them. He is going to try and find out the recipe and I > will post it when I get the info. > Thanks to all for the replies, > Kim

Thanks, Elkdreamer, I think I was just saying that my "elders" never said "This is the way the Choctaw did this" or "This is the way of the Cherokee". It was just "this is the way we do this". OK, I give up, I think what I'm trying to say is that I learned some (and only some) of the Indian ways, but it was never said - this is Indian. Now, I'm shutting up because I know what I'm saying, but do you understand? AND, does it matter!?! LOL! Take care, maybe I can write better when my back is better and I don't have to take the pain medicine! Take care and go safely! Tsana ----- Original Message ----- From: Elkdreamer Wilkins <elkdremr@hotmail.com> To: <medicgirl78@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > Yes Tsa na > The lessons were pass down this way because we had no written language. > Walk in Beauty > Elkdreamer > > > >From: "Tsa na Jordan" <medicgirl78@yahoo.com> > >Reply-To: "Tsa na Jordan" <medicgirl78@yahoo.com> > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > >Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:13:02 -0500 > > > >You know, as I look back on my "raising", I see that even though we were > >told that we were Cherokee/Choctaw, we weren't given the religous culture > >in > >detail, but we were raised to follow the general Indian beliefs. Such as: > >environmental protection, respect to animals, and respect of elders. I had > >always thought of these as general "good ethics", but the more I look at > >people and the older I get, I realize that these were taught to me because > >they were taught to my father, and his father, and his father, etc. They > >were a "way of life" not something that my elders really thought about, > >just > >the way they had lived and those before them had lived. Does this make > >sense? I'm not so good at putting this stuff down in black and white. > >Take care and go safely! > >Tsana > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: John & Arla Williams <jaws@crosstel.net> > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:32 PM > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > Dusty one of the things I see as I am out and about doing shows and > >talking > > > to people is those people who connect with their long ago indigenous > > > Ancestors seem to have a better grasp of taking care of community and > >the > > > Earth.It is those who can't seem to find the connection that have a > >problem > > > with hearing. Arla > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:10 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > The problem seems to be, with people who have no Indian blood, getting > > > them > > > > to LISTEN. The native people of this country are far more in tune > >with > > > what > > > > is going on re this continent than the invaders, but those who are all > > > into > > > > technology and the worship of man's knowledge rather than Gods > >knowledge > > > > seem to screw everything up and then wonder what happened to make > >things > > > go > > > > wrong. IMHO > > > > > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Barbara Ellison <greybird7@pisp.net> > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:01 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who have grown up in Indian communities but seem to have no > > > > knowledge > > > > > of their own spirituality are still aware of something inside that > >is > > > > > different, even if they don't know what it is.(Because of the thick > > > > > assimilation) > > > > > And it is my hope that more of our people will recognise that we are > >not > > > > > "second class" and that our spirituality is not just a matter of > > > > "beliefs", > > > > > and that it is not "inferior" to the spirituality any other race of > > > > > people...It is also my hope that those non-Indians who can learn a > > > better > > > > > way of living in balance from Indians, or whoever, will do so... > > > > > B. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Gemma West" <gemmawest@usa.net> > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:35 PM > > > > > Subject: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What has happened for many people is that they wander through life > > > > trying > > > > > to > > > > > > figure out what is wrong...trying to figure out why they don't fit > >in. > > > > > > Attempts are made to mold themselves into someone else's > >defintions > >of > > > > > good > > > > > > and bad. These attempts fail. Finally that person decides to > >look > >to > > > > > their > > > > > > ancestors. They find themselves. They finally feel comfortable. > >It > > > is > > > > > > obvious to all that ancestors shape our biological > >characteristics. > > > It > > > > is > > > > > > obvious to me that ancestors shape our spirituality. The sad > >thing > >is > > > > > that > > > > > > sometimes the assimilation is so thick that you can grow up around > > > > Indians > > > > > and > > > > > > still not know your own spirituality. The beautiful thing is > >finding > > > > the > > > > > few > > > > > > who have refused assimilation and are willing to share knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > When non-Indian people ask to be allowed into the community it > >causes > > > us > > > > > to > > > > > > question ourselves. Does community still exist? What are they > >here > > > to > > > > > get? > > > > > > Are we really different from them? I think the great thing about > >this > > > > > reverse > > > > > > acculturation is that it is spurring some of us to re-embrace our > >own > > > > > > ancestors. It is removing the shame that our elders had to live > >with. > > > > > This > > > > > > shame had no place and that is becoming clear to new generations. > >If > > > we > > > > > can > > > > > > influence people to live a balanced life then that is a great > >thing. > > > > > After > > > > > > all, our children and their children will have to live in a world > > > shaped > > > > > by > > > > > > the parents. We can not afford to be selfish with principles of > > > > balance. > > > > > It > > > > > > seems that they need these principles much more than we do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barbara Ellison <greybird7@pisp.net> wrote: > > > > > > "Our spirituality" is not "just an idea" and it is not something > >we > > > went > > > > > to > > > > > > class and learned somewhere, or got off the internet...it is born > >in > > > us > > > > > > (which is obvious to those Indians who were raised surrounded by a > > > white > > > > > > society) and a non-Indian may be able to learn from us some > >things, > > > but > > > > > they > > > > > > cannot "acquire" what they are not born with, and their attempts > >to > > > put > > > > > > themselves on an "equal footing", with Indians, so to speak, is at > > > best > > > > > > futile...and at worst, an attempt at cultural theft... > > > > > > B. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 8:59 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I shall play devil's advocate again and expose my rear to > >everyone's > > > > > > slings > > > > > > > and arrows... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about those people who do not "want to be NA", but just > >think > > > > our > > > > > > > spirituality, philosophy and way of life is a good idea. I've > >had > > > > > > countless > > > > > > > elders tell me, "I don't care what kind of blood you have, as > >long > > > as > > > > > it's > > > > > > > human". Just because an Anglo wants to practice our ways > >because > >it > > > > > works > > > > > > > for them, doesn't mean they deserve to be belittled by a > >derogatory > > > > > name. > > > > > > > Are there really that many among us that are so arrogant to do > >so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where did we ever get the idea that that we were so exclusive? > > > Isn't > > > > > that > > > > > > > TRUE racism? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dusty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: John & Arla Williams <jaws@crosstel.net> > > > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 8:45 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elkdreamer, Where did the term come from? Arla > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 8:38 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Fay > > > > > > > > > Mostly people that want to be N/A and really have no Indian > > > blood > > > > at > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > > > > > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without > >the > > > > quotes > > > > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... 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They are really bad the last few days here. The ones in the house have been drawn to a sweet smelling tub of soapy water and drown. My friend always have mosquitos around his house in great numbers; he places a bucket half full of soapy water outside and places a string across the top which has been sprayed with what ever perfumes he can find. It is surprising how many die in the bucket. (Personally I prefer a bug zapper for hours of entertainment--not much to do around here you know.) To keep them from bitting you use an extract of lemon grass or any other plant containing citronella in it but be careful not to rub it in your eyes. rusty

Pine Ridge is Pine Ridge,SD a Lakota reservation just South of Rapid City, SD *S* and Rosebud is the rez that is to the East of Pine Ridge. Sonja >From: "Patsy Caleb" <studentarchaeologist@home.com> >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:29:53 -0700 > >what is pine ridge >----- Original Message ----- >From: Cecilia D. <papllion@mnsinc.com> >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:26 PM >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > What would you like to know about Pine Ridge? I'm a member of a group >that > > makes two trips a year there trying to help them. They just returned >from > > their spring trip with a semi full of furniture and things for the homes > > and I could send you her email privately if you want it. > > Cecilia > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "faynshep" <faynshep@telapex.com> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > > > > Yes, she is about 20 miles from the administration bldg. I haven't >heard > > > back from her yet. Her husband and a few others are still in the > > building, > > > and I'm going to make sure if it is the Red Cloud building. I think >that > > is > > > the one, but it may not be another bldg and I will find out. > > > Fay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: John & Arla Williams <jaws@crosstel.net> > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:36 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > > > > > > > Fay, Is Iris from Pine Ridge? Arla > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "faynshep" <faynshep@telapex.com> > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 3:12 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] PROBLEMS ON PINE RIDGE-ROSEBUD > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it's been nearer to a year. Will check with Iris and see > > what's > > > > > going on now. > > > > > Fay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't post it to >the > > list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at > > CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L Genealogy mail list: > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >Choctaw Home Page: >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/ > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Thanks Juli, It worked this time. got to go back there . It's downloading now. Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juli Kearns" <jmme@mindspring.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] White Buffalo > Hack back the URL and you'll find it: > > www.homestead.com/whitebuffalomiracle/ > > Juli > > At 09:21 PM 4/10/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Getting message: page not found. > >Kim > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <LPSRLS@aol.com> > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:35 PM > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] White Buffalo > > > > > > > For any one who wants to see the white buffalo Miracle . > > > here's the site . > > > www.homestead.com/whitebuffalomiracle/miracle > > > Ron > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

I just wanted to tell ya'll that I joined the Pittsburgh Co. Genealogical and Historical Society (OK) and have found a great deal of information about the Choctaw in their quarterly publishings. I received the first one, then on a trip there, I purchased the 4 editions from last year. They have interviews done in the 1930's mostly, but also other years of white and Indian that give real-life information about Choctaws. It has given me several clues about searching for my family who resided there in the late 1800s on. The address for the society is 113 East Carl Albert Parkway, McAlester, OK 74501 (918) 426-0388. The people who work there as volunteers are fabulous and they will do free lookups. They also have a website although I don't recall the addy - I get there by going to www.usgenweb.com, then OK or IT and Pittsburg Co., then there is a link on the Pittsburg Co home page to the Gen. and His. Society. I hope this isn't too long for a post, but I wanted to let ya'll know that this is a great source of information. The emblem they use on the cover of the quarterly publication, the Tobusky News is the Choctaw Emblem and each edition has an explanation of the meaning of the symbols within. OK, my time's up, let me pass to the next person! Take care and go safely! Tsana _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

thats reall y wierd cause it was at about that time that i went on a shopping trip with a group of doctors and i purchased my white stuffed buffalo i have since lost my white buffalo i dont know where he is but ill get another ----- Original Message ----- From: Juli Kearns <jmme@mindspring.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] White Buffalo > Patsy, > > When someone says to hack an URL they mean to cut it back. Such as > this. The original URL given was > www.homestead.com/whitebuffalomiracle/miracle > The page isn't found. But "hack" the URL back and the web site comes up: > www.homestead.com/whitebuffalomiracle/ > > This is something to first do if you go to a page at a web site (as long as > it's not the main index page) and find it's not there. Quite often if you > hack down the URL you can find the web site and then go in and find if the > page is still there...its name may have just been changed for instance. > > Juli > > > At 07:57 PM 4/10/01 -0700, you wrote: > >I have no idea what you are referring to. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Juli Kearns <jmme@mindspring.com> > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 7:49 PM > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] White Buffalo > > > > > > > Hack back the URL and you'll find it: > > > > > > www.homestead.com/whitebuffalomiracle/ > > > > > > Juli > > > > > > At 09:21 PM 4/10/01 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Getting message: page not found. > > > >Kim > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: <LPSRLS@aol.com> > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:35 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] White Buffalo > > > > > > > > > > > > > For any one who wants to see the white buffalo Miracle . > > > > > here's the site . > > > > > www.homestead.com/whitebuffalomiracle/miracle > > > > > Ron > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L genealogy mail list: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

Fay, I believe it should be "Lord O Lord"! That sounds right! Take care! Tsana ----- Original Message ----- From: faynshep <faynshep@telapex.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] IMHO? Dusty > I don't either. When I first got on this list, I kept seeing LOL. Well, I > didn't want to ask but my sister that lives in TX teaches computer classes > and when she came to visit, I asked her what did LOL mean. She said, > laughed out loud or laughing out loud. I said oh, I thought it meant "Lord > O Lord". When I told Markie that, she said she laughed so hard her sides > hurt. > Fay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Linda Branum <mamalin@1s.net> > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 7:47 AM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] IMHO? Dusty > > > > Hi Dusty, > > I am wondering what IMHO is. I know its like LOL and other puter slang > but > > I keep seeing this one and don't know what you mean????? > > Thanks Dusty, > > Linda Kirby Branum > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 8:13 AM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > IMHO if you feel you have the blood, then you probably do. It's those > > old > > > spirits calling to you. > > > > > > dusty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Jim Morrison, Jr. <jmorsn@coastalnet.com> > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 12:40 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > > Elk > > > > What about those (ME!!) who feel that they are, ancestors were in the > > > proper > > > > geographical area at the right time frame, but just can not find the > > proof > > > > (or whatever you want to call it!!)? > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > jmorsn@coastalnet.com > > > > http://www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:38 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Fay > > > > > Mostly people that want to be N/A and really have no Indian blood at > > all > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > >From: faynshep <faynshep@telapex.com> > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > >Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 20:11:49 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > > >Excuse me, but, what is a twinkie? > > > > > >Fay > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: Kim Collins <2buckets@arbuckleonline.com> > > > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:07 PM > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Elkdreamer, > > > > > > > Well said! And so true. > > > > > > > Kim IBSSG > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> > > > > > > > To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 7:14 AM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halito Gemma > > > > > > > > I was refering to people that have no Native American blood > in > > > > them > > > > > >at > > > > > > > > all. But I do feel for them because they are far removed from > > > their > > > > > > > > ancestors here in America. Our Old ones still walk with us > here. > > > > > > > > Walk in beauty > > > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Gemma West <gemmawest@usa.net> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >Subject: [CHAHTA] Elkdreamer, twinkies > > > > > > > > >Date: 3 Apr 2001 10:10:11 EDT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Who are you referring to when you say "they" ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Elkdreamer Wilkins" <elkdremr@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >Halito Gemma > > > > > > > > > My personal observations give me reason to believe that > they > > > can > > > > > >see > > > > > > > > >that > > > > > > > > >we have a more centered culture with the bones of our > Ancestors > > > > here > > > > > >with > > > > > > > > >us > > > > > > > > >to help guide our thoughts. They are trying to achive the > same > > > > > >connect > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > >we feel to our past. > > > > > > > > > Walk in Beauty > > > > > > > > > Elkdreamer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Gemma West <gemmawest@usa.net> > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > >To: CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [CHAHTA] twinkies > > > > > > > > > >Date: 2 Apr 2001 11:02:35 EDT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sometimes I think the rush to investigate Indian ancestry > is > > > > rather > > > > > > > > >amusing > > > > > > > > > >also. After all, it has been estimated that only 7% of all > > > > > >Americans > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > >Indian blood. On the other hand it has been estimated that > > 20% > > > of > > > > > > > > > >European-Americans have African blood. For some reason, > > > however, > > > > > >there > > > > > > > > >has > > > > > > > > > >been no parallel rush to claim African blood. I have to > > wonder > > > > why. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >This is a good topic if anyone wants to tackle it within > > > > > > > > >guidelines....the > > > > > > > > > >words "twinkie" and "wannabe" and their usage by both NA's > > and > > > > > >whites. > > > > > > > > > >Also, the prejudices that make these words acceptable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >dusty > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > >From: Barbara Ellison <greybird7@pisp.net> > > > > > > > > > >To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 9:20 PM > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [CHAHTA] Something so funny.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was listening to AIROS (www.airos.org/) > > > > > > > > > > > this morning and there was a comic on talking about a > > > twinkie > > > > > > > > >university > > > > > > > > > >called I Wannebe U....the whole routine was > hilarious....this > > > is > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > >Got a GRIPE?? Got a PROBLEM?? Just wanna' WHINE? Don't > post > > > it > > > > to > > > > > >the > > > > > > > > > >list...write me, dusty (list administrator) at > > > > > > > > > >CHAHTA-L-admin@cultures.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > >Get free email and a permanent address at > > > > > > > http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > >Need more CHOCTAW information?? 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Getting message: page not found. Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: <LPSRLS@aol.com> To: <CHAHTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] White Buffalo > For any one who wants to see the white buffalo Miracle . > here's the site . > www.homestead.com/whitebuffalomiracle/miracle > Ron > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: > Send msg. to CHAHTA-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >