Markie, This spiritualist might be a legitiment person, we should give him a chance before we condem him. If i had an extra 250 dollars i certainly would consider it . At least check it out.Who knows but him what motives might be behind this. I hope honorable ones, is really all that nesseccary. I myself am interested in the spirit world , not of my own choice but because it is always around me., i dont know how it got here but it is here and i have to deal with it everyday. Whatever it is! ha ha love ya Markie keep up the good work one more juicy tidbit , did you know that at Harvard University they now have a school of demonology? these kind of things are coming into the world again and if ya know of anybod ----- Original Message ----- From: Markie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 3:54 AM Subject: [CHAHTA] Can you believe what is on E-bay???? > Well Folks, > > I just "thought" I had seen it all... while surfing E-bay, I came across > this page. I just had to share this with "someone"... so I guess it will > be my family here. Can you believe that someone is actually "selling" > this? And what's more unbelievable is someone is "BUYING" it!! I knew > it was going on all over the country, but on > "E-BAY"??? > > E-mail Shaman?? I can't help but laugh, even tho it is not funny... it's > sad how so many people will take our native american beliefs that are held > sacred, and make money off of them. It makes me ... nukoa (mad) and > nukhaklo (sad)... the worst thing about this to me, is they probably don't > know the first thing about what they are selling.... I wouldn't be > surprised to learn the only thing this person knows is what they read from > some kooks book that they read! > > I'm sorry, just had to say this to somebody.... let me get off of my soap > box here. > > Markie < still shaking my head in disblief over this one> > > > *****$250.00***** > > SHAMAN APPRENTICE PROGRAM..SERIOUS ONLY! > Item #271981927 > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271981927 > > >I am a Native American shaman, spiritualist and herbalist. > > > >The Shaman Program is a very elite and special Program, with daily > teachings, lessons and specific instructions. It is not to be entered into > lightly and I will only accept a handful of people for this Program. You > will learn a great deal and experience many things. > > > >You will learn how to recognize, call upon and utilize the energies and > powers from our animal totems to your benefit. How to use herbs and Mother > Earth to heal. You will gain a greater knowledge of your own energies and > spirit. These knowledges and training will transform you! > > > > > >Lessons are transmitted by email each day. These are not > computer-generated; they are one-on-one and individually tailored to your > needs abilities and capabilities. You MUST be prepared to review the > lessons, complete the assignments and tasks and return your "homework" to > me within 24 hours each day! Any questions, please email me PRIOR to > bidding. My references are always available upon request. Please...serious > students only! You must be 18 or older and prove it. Will make exception > for 16 and 17 year-olds with notarized parental consent. > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > Choctaw Chat: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > >

Well Folks, I just "thought" I had seen it all... while surfing E-bay, I came across this page. I just had to share this with "someone"... so I guess it will be my family here. Can you believe that someone is actually "selling" this? And what's more unbelievable is someone is "BUYING" it!! I knew it was going on all over the country, but on "E-BAY"??? E-mail Shaman?? I can't help but laugh, even tho it is not funny... it's sad how so many people will take our native american beliefs that are held sacred, and make money off of them. It makes me ... nukoa (mad) and nukhaklo (sad)... the worst thing about this to me, is they probably don't know the first thing about what they are selling.... I wouldn't be surprised to learn the only thing this person knows is what they read from some kooks book that they read! I'm sorry, just had to say this to somebody.... let me get off of my soap box here. Markie < still shaking my head in disblief over this one> *****$250.00***** SHAMAN APPRENTICE PROGRAM..SERIOUS ONLY! Item #271981927 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271981927 >I am a Native American shaman, spiritualist and herbalist. > >The Shaman Program is a very elite and special Program, with daily teachings, lessons and specific instructions. It is not to be entered into lightly and I will only accept a handful of people for this Program. You will learn a great deal and experience many things. > >You will learn how to recognize, call upon and utilize the energies and powers from our animal totems to your benefit. How to use herbs and Mother Earth to heal. You will gain a greater knowledge of your own energies and spirit. These knowledges and training will transform you! > > >Lessons are transmitted by email each day. These are not computer-generated; they are one-on-one and individually tailored to your needs abilities and capabilities. You MUST be prepared to review the lessons, complete the assignments and tasks and return your "homework" to me within 24 hours each day! Any questions, please email me PRIOR to bidding. My references are always available upon request. Please...serious students only! You must be 18 or older and prove it. Will make exception for 16 and 17 year-olds with notarized parental consent. > >

Thanks Sandi, We did good huh? But it takes everyone to make any project come together.... so it was "we", not "me"... <G> The more we upload the the better it gets, so back to work I reckon. YOKOKE! Markie At 11:33 PM 02/16/2000 EST, you wrote: >Markie Girl: > >Way to go and kudos from all of we to you for your dedication! > >Love, Sandi :) > >

Markie Girl: Way to go and kudos from all of we to you for your dedication! Love, Sandi :)

you go girl ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Link to Choctaw Nation of OK. > Markie Girl: > > Way to go and kudos from all of we to you for your dedication! > > Love, Sandi :) > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

Halito List Members, I wanted to share with you our good news. Thanks to everyone here who has helped, joined, and contributed to our Choctaw Genealogy web pages. I received the following message this morning which I must say... made my day!! <G> I am very happy that the Choctaw Nation of OK. thought our web page worthy of a link from their official web site. I can never say thank you enough to all of you wonderful people here. You have sent me pictures, information, family lines, surnames, links, and much encouragement. Hopefully in the future we will not only be helping ourselves, but many others who we may never know about. You have my deepest gratitude. Yokoke, Thank you... Markie... <I'm not screaming to loud am I?><LOL> ********* From: "Choctaw Nation Webmaster, P. K. Work" <[email protected]> To: "Markie" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:58:40 -0600 Organization: Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma Markie, What a fabulous resource!! I constantly receive requests from folks for this type of resource, and am going to be adding you link to our pages. Thank you, oh so much, for such a wonderful resource --- I am sure you will get lots of hits off the Choctaw Nation site, as folks are really interested!! Thanks again, PK P. K. Work, BS Senior Web Developer ISC Computers, Inc. P. O. Box 970 Durant, Oklahoma 74702-0970 Phone: 580-924-5999, Fax: 580-924-9707 [email protected] http://www.choctawnation.com http://www.choctawhousing.com http://www.choctawgaming.com ***********************************

Theresa: Thanks for letting me know. I will claim Delaware as I'm on that roll. Wish I could sneak in Choctaw! LOL But, am not on that roll. :( Sandi :)

claim the Tribe you are enrolled in. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Native Census Info > Hi Theresa: > > On the census form are you allowed to put in more than one line of Native > American blood? I have several. Or, do you pick the line in which you have > the most blood? > > Thanks, Sandi :) > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > Choctaw Chat: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm >

for college money for 2 year or 4 year or phd go fill out this application can get up to $150,000 to pay for college and other schools new gov programs say yes to student loans and yes to work study and yes to deferrments www.fafsa.ed.gov if you want more info go to [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: patsy8259 <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Native Census Info > for college money go fill out this application www.fafsa.ed.gov > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Markie <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 5:21 PM > Subject: [CHAHTA] Native Census Info > > > > FORWARDED TO LIST: > > > > This came to me instead of the Choctaw-Southeast List.. I thought I would > > post it here for those who are interested. > > > > Makrie > > > > >Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:37:46 -0800 (PST) > > >Old-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:37:53 -0800 > > >From: "Andre P. Cramblit" <[email protected]> > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >Organization: www.ncidc.org > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: Native Census Info > > >X-Envelope-To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request > > > > > Many tribes and Native people have asked, "How are CSBG and other program > > funding levels > > determined and how can we get our allocation increased?" The answer is the > > 2000 Census. > > > > Current funding level is based on the results of the 1990 Census. American > > Indians were severely undercounted in 1990, which resulted in severe > > reductions in funding and services throughout the entire country. Census > > data is what is used to determine not only CSBG funding levels, but > > virtually every federal program that benefits American Indians and Alaska > > Natives (e.g., education, housing, health, energy assistance, job > training, > > child care, head start). > > > > We need to make sure Indian people are not undercounted again in the 2000 > > Census. Make sure your tribal members understand the critical need for an > > accurate count. You can assure them that all answers provided are strictly > > confidential, with no way to connect answers or personal information to an > > individual. Provide the following information to your tribal members on > how > > to answer the Census: > > > > o Check Indian as the only race listing no other admixture (white, black, > > etc.) > > > > o Enter the name of your tribe using only 19 letters. > > > > o Check with tribal officials to ensure everyone in the tribe is using the > > same tribal name with the same spelling. > > > > o Make sure that the person #1 on the Census lists as Indian, because > > everyone in the household will be counted as the same race as #1. > > > > Be sure to have a tribal representative attend any Inter-Tribal Complete > > Count Committee meetings that may be being held in your area. > > > > -------------------- > > > > The 2000 Census surveys will be mailed out on March 20 to all residential > > addresses. April 4 is the actual count day, when those without residential > > addresses will be counted. There will also be a house-to-house canvassing > > of homes that do not return the mail-out surveys. Let's make sure that WE > > are not undercounted in the 2000 Census. > > -- > > > > André Cramblit, Operations Director > > > > The Northern California Indian Development Council > ( http://www.ncidc.org ) > > NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, > educational, > > and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC > > operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of > > American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work > > of the Tribes of N.W. California. > > (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift) > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

Hi Theresa: Thanks for asking. It's not like we fill in census forms every so often! Sandi :)

You go girl, the number of NA that do not have dark skin eyes or hair are to numerous to count. Besides the thinking that all full Indians have brown eyes is incorrect. The pure Choctaw pre white/Spanish/Mexican/Black blood had Black eyes not brown. Coal black hair not brown. So.......... There are allot out there who have CDIB that say full but somewhere at sometime there was a different blood mixed. We go to schools and teach elem. children that all NA are not alike unlike what Hollywood would have you believe. One principal said that they had ask these other people to come before (ones that I know are Mexican playing like Indians no proof, no names no census cards no nothing that they are NA & one white guy who I know that has changed his Tribal affiliation three times since I first met him) anyway, she said, Well I thought that they were more Indian, they had pony tales ;-/ Theresa Harrison, Liaison Okla Chahta Clan of CA Inc ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Native Census Info > I'm going to put NA - Oklahoma Choctaw, we need all the help we can get. > I know they will probably question me since I don't have dark skin, eyes or > hair but their problem, not mine! > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > Choctaw Chat: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > >

Good question I will have to ask Theresa Harrison, Liaison Okla Chahta Clan of CA Inc ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Native Census Info > Hi Theresa: > > On the census form are you allowed to put in more than one line of Native > American blood? I have several. Or, do you pick the line in which you have > the most blood? > > Thanks, Sandi :) > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > Choctaw Chat: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm > >

Hi Theresa: On the census form are you allowed to put in more than one line of Native American blood? I have several. Or, do you pick the line in which you have the most blood? Thanks, Sandi :)

Hi Folks, I got my Choctaw Language Workbook and Tapes in the mail today. I'm ready for February 22, 2000 to get here. I hope that I am a lot of you as classmates. I am excited and hope that we all put out some effort to bring us all closer together Until later Ellen

I'm going to put NA - Oklahoma Choctaw, we need all the help we can get. I know they will probably question me since I don't have dark skin, eyes or hair but their problem, not mine!

Question - I have my CDIB but I'm only 1/32 Choctaw. I never know what to put on application - caucasion or NA. I'm new at this - tribal name? Also, I never was in the 1990 census, what do I do if they miss me again?

Please answer the census as OKLAHOMA Choctaw for your whole family. It is my understanding from our last Chief that if you only put Choctaw it goes to Mississippi. you must specify Oklahoma. To fill out an application or birth cert. for a new baby no one can tell you what to do. Your heart must tell you. If you love your Choctaw heritage and are proud and live your life Choctaw, by all means put that you are Choctaw Indian. Otherwise, if your heart tells you it is sorta cool to be Choctaw but your heart and mind say that you are white. The answer is clear. Remember weather you are full blood or another degree, when you claim your heritage, that makes the numbers go up on NA for federal information. Tribes get their funding for medical, etc. on the number of NA people. So regardless of your degree you are helping your people when you claim her birth right. Theresa Harrison, Liaison Okla Chahta Clan of CA Inc ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Native Census Info > Question - I have my CDIB but I'm only 1/32 Choctaw. I never know what to > put on application - caucasion or NA. > I'm new at this - tribal name? Also, I never was in the 1990 census, what do > I do if they miss me again? > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

for college money go fill out this application www.fafsa.ed.gov ----- Original Message ----- From: Markie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 5:21 PM Subject: [CHAHTA] Native Census Info > FORWARDED TO LIST: > > This came to me instead of the Choctaw-Southeast List.. I thought I would > post it here for those who are interested. > > Makrie > > >Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:37:46 -0800 (PST) > >Old-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:37:53 -0800 > >From: "Andre P. Cramblit" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >Organization: www.ncidc.org > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Native Census Info > >X-Envelope-To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request > > > Many tribes and Native people have asked, "How are CSBG and other program > funding levels > determined and how can we get our allocation increased?" The answer is the > 2000 Census. > > Current funding level is based on the results of the 1990 Census. American > Indians were severely undercounted in 1990, which resulted in severe > reductions in funding and services throughout the entire country. Census > data is what is used to determine not only CSBG funding levels, but > virtually every federal program that benefits American Indians and Alaska > Natives (e.g., education, housing, health, energy assistance, job training, > child care, head start). > > We need to make sure Indian people are not undercounted again in the 2000 > Census. Make sure your tribal members understand the critical need for an > accurate count. You can assure them that all answers provided are strictly > confidential, with no way to connect answers or personal information to an > individual. Provide the following information to your tribal members on how > to answer the Census: > > o Check Indian as the only race listing no other admixture (white, black, > etc.) > > o Enter the name of your tribe using only 19 letters. > > o Check with tribal officials to ensure everyone in the tribe is using the > same tribal name with the same spelling. > > o Make sure that the person #1 on the Census lists as Indian, because > everyone in the household will be counted as the same race as #1. > > Be sure to have a tribal representative attend any Inter-Tribal Complete > Count Committee meetings that may be being held in your area. > > -------------------- > > The 2000 Census surveys will be mailed out on March 20 to all residential > addresses. April 4 is the actual count day, when those without residential > addresses will be counted. There will also be a house-to-house canvassing > of homes that do not return the mail-out surveys. Let's make sure that WE > are not undercounted in the 2000 Census. > -- > > André Cramblit, Operations Director > > The Northern California Indian Development Council ( http://www.ncidc.org ) > NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, > and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC > operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of > American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work > of the Tribes of N.W. California. > (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift) > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

FORWARDED TO LIST: This came to me instead of the Choctaw-Southeast List.. I thought I would post it here for those who are interested. Makrie >Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:37:46 -0800 (PST) >Old-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:37:53 -0800 >From: "Andre P. Cramblit" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >Organization: www.ncidc.org >To: [email protected] >Subject: Native Census Info >X-Envelope-To: CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request > Many tribes and Native people have asked, "How are CSBG and other program funding levels determined and how can we get our allocation increased?" The answer is the 2000 Census. Current funding level is based on the results of the 1990 Census. American Indians were severely undercounted in 1990, which resulted in severe reductions in funding and services throughout the entire country. Census data is what is used to determine not only CSBG funding levels, but virtually every federal program that benefits American Indians and Alaska Natives (e.g., education, housing, health, energy assistance, job training, child care, head start). We need to make sure Indian people are not undercounted again in the 2000 Census. Make sure your tribal members understand the critical need for an accurate count. You can assure them that all answers provided are strictly confidential, with no way to connect answers or personal information to an individual. Provide the following information to your tribal members on how to answer the Census: o Check Indian as the only race listing no other admixture (white, black, etc.) o Enter the name of your tribe using only 19 letters. o Check with tribal officials to ensure everyone in the tribe is using the same tribal name with the same spelling. o Make sure that the person #1 on the Census lists as Indian, because everyone in the household will be counted as the same race as #1. Be sure to have a tribal representative attend any Inter-Tribal Complete Count Committee meetings that may be being held in your area. -------------------- The 2000 Census surveys will be mailed out on March 20 to all residential addresses. April 4 is the actual count day, when those without residential addresses will be counted. There will also be a house-to-house canvassing of homes that do not return the mail-out surveys. Let’s make sure that WE are not undercounted in the 2000 Census. -- André Cramblit, Operations Director The Northern California Indian Development Council ( http://www.ncidc.org ) NCIDC is a non-profit organization that helps meet the social, educational, and economic development needs of American Indian communities. NCIDC operates a fine art gallery and gift boutique featuring the best of American Indian Artist's and their work, with emphasis placed on the work of the Tribes of N.W. California. (http://www.ncidc.org/gift/gifthome.htm#anchorgift)

Grey Owl in New York carries these as does Crazy Crow in Dennison. Crazy Crow has a web site. Lucas Graywolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "danny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 7:00 PM Subject: [CHAHTA] beads > can anyone tell me where to find hair pipe beads and quills in bulk > quanitys > thanks > danny > > > > > > http://community.webtv.net/drhenry/danshouseofmansonry > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > Choctaw Chat: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/chat.htm >