Do any of these names look familar to anybody? Chambers County, AL 1860 Census Larkin STORY 37 M Sarah 37 F John B. 20 M Marion 18 M Cynthia 16 F Missouri 14 F James 10 M Ada 8 F Dona Anna (Scrappie) WILLIAMS born 3 May 1869 Central, Elmore Co., AL married 24 Dec 1899 Benjamin Bird YOUNG born 10 May 1871 Tallapoosa County, AL Mary Homer (Achie) FULLER of DeLeon, Comanche Co., TX Jim Jim Morrison, Jr. [email protected] www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/
I have a copy of a write up on Martha Jane WILLIAMS which mentions a "short' census that was taken in Chambers Co., AL in 1855. Only the "Head of Household" is named. Anybody know what that census was for? Jim Jim Morrison, Jr. [email protected] www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/
>Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:13:51 >To: [email protected] >From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <[email protected]> >Subject: Refused OK land > >Great grand parents J.G. MORRISON and Fannie CURTIS (1856 Wetumpka, AL) were married on 27 Dec 1888 in Prairie County, AR. They refused to go to OK and claim their land. How would this be listed? > >Any help appreciated!! > >Jim > > Jim Morrison, Jr. [email protected] www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/
>Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:47:05 >To: [email protected] >From: "Jim Morrison, Jr." <[email protected]> >Subject: Land Lottery > >What was the "Land Lottery of GA 1827"? > > Jim Morrison, Jr. [email protected] www2.coastalnet.com/~g7d3j4nb/
Sounds like a "WINNER" to me! -----Original Message----- From: Graywolf [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 2:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor GREAT! Lets make this the challenge to our coming generations: MARRY A CHOCTAW. (Hmmm. Bumper Sticker prospects there!) Lucas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Silmon Margie Civ OC-ALC/LIP" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:56 AM Subject: RE: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > I appreciate that..and No, I'm not laughing, that is exactly what I told my > children to do, only they married into other tribes, which at least they're > half Choctaw and half of another tribe!! I started in on the grandchildren > now and one of them have already promised me she would marry into the tribe > ... we ahall see ... hopefully! > > Margie Silmon > OK Choctaw > > -----Original Message----- > From: Graywolf [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > ABSOLUTELY, Margie! Good insight. And yes, there aren't many full-bloods > left. But here's a wild suggestion; why don't we encourage our children and > grandchildren to find and marry other Choctaws. > > OK, go ahead and laugh; but I still think it's a good idea. > > Lucas Graywolf > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Silmon Margie Civ OC-ALC/LIP" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:04 AM > Subject: RE: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > You know, sometimes I believe that is why there is so much depression on > the > > reservations. The different nations on the rez want to retain their > > traditions and uphold them but at the same time in order to survive and > > make it, according to "the other way" they are being forced to live like > the > > materialistic, greedy "other way" which isn't the true full blood way > which > > clashes with their ways & beliefs and causes a sense of bewilderment and > > depression. For many, many years the spirit of the different nations has > > been tested... > > > > I believe in my heart that the spirit of us all will prevail in the circle > > of life. However, I hope "we" all understand just what is going on before > > it is too late. Full bloods are becoming extinct, as we speak. Just my > > personal opinon. > > > > Margie Silmon > > OK Choctaw > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: snet [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:53 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > My father was ashamed to speak of his Native American Choctaw heritage..We > > were white and that was that. Dad was born in the back of a wagon > > Jan.05,1925 around Chickasaw, Okla. area. He met and married mother who > > was Cherokee/Irish.Dad lied on his service papers and went to WWII when > he > > was 16 as a belly gunner on a bomber in the Navy.I will never understand > how > > our so called government could shame a whole race of people into forsaking > > their lives,families ,friends,culture all so that no one will know they > are > > of Native American descent.I was raised in California and had not a clue.I > > found out my true nationality when I started seaching my children > > linage.Their father is Cheyenne.Imagine my surprise when I discovered my > > true ancestors were Choctaw.I now have my CDIB and tribal membership > > cards.Dad died Jan 1997.He took his secrets to the grave with him. .I > would > > love to learn of the Tribal ways.I have always walked,talked and danced > with > > the spirits and was thought different by others.At least now I am aware of > > the reasons for it.If not for the way the government treated the Native > > American peoples what might our lives have been?? > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Choctaw Home Page: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Home Page: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== Choctaw Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm
GREAT! Lets make this the challenge to our coming generations: MARRY A CHOCTAW. (Hmmm. Bumper Sticker prospects there!) Lucas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Silmon Margie Civ OC-ALC/LIP" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:56 AM Subject: RE: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > I appreciate that..and No, I'm not laughing, that is exactly what I told my > children to do, only they married into other tribes, which at least they're > half Choctaw and half of another tribe!! I started in on the grandchildren > now and one of them have already promised me she would marry into the tribe > ... we ahall see ... hopefully! > > Margie Silmon > OK Choctaw > > -----Original Message----- > From: Graywolf [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > ABSOLUTELY, Margie! Good insight. And yes, there aren't many full-bloods > left. But here's a wild suggestion; why don't we encourage our children and > grandchildren to find and marry other Choctaws. > > OK, go ahead and laugh; but I still think it's a good idea. > > Lucas Graywolf > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Silmon Margie Civ OC-ALC/LIP" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:04 AM > Subject: RE: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > You know, sometimes I believe that is why there is so much depression on > the > > reservations. The different nations on the rez want to retain their > > traditions and uphold them but at the same time in order to survive and > > make it, according to "the other way" they are being forced to live like > the > > materialistic, greedy "other way" which isn't the true full blood way > which > > clashes with their ways & beliefs and causes a sense of bewilderment and > > depression. For many, many years the spirit of the different nations has > > been tested... > > > > I believe in my heart that the spirit of us all will prevail in the circle > > of life. However, I hope "we" all understand just what is going on before > > it is too late. Full bloods are becoming extinct, as we speak. Just my > > personal opinon. > > > > Margie Silmon > > OK Choctaw > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: snet [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:53 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > My father was ashamed to speak of his Native American Choctaw heritage..We > > were white and that was that. Dad was born in the back of a wagon > > Jan.05,1925 around Chickasaw, Okla. area. He met and married mother who > > was Cherokee/Irish.Dad lied on his service papers and went to WWII when > he > > was 16 as a belly gunner on a bomber in the Navy.I will never understand > how > > our so called government could shame a whole race of people into forsaking > > their lives,families ,friends,culture all so that no one will know they > are > > of Native American descent.I was raised in California and had not a clue.I > > found out my true nationality when I started seaching my children > > linage.Their father is Cheyenne.Imagine my surprise when I discovered my > > true ancestors were Choctaw.I now have my CDIB and tribal membership > > cards.Dad died Jan 1997.He took his secrets to the grave with him. .I > would > > love to learn of the Tribal ways.I have always walked,talked and danced > with > > the spirits and was thought different by others.At least now I am aware of > > the reasons for it.If not for the way the government treated the Native > > American peoples what might our lives have been?? > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Choctaw Home Page: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Home Page: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > >
I appreciate that..and No, I'm not laughing, that is exactly what I told my children to do, only they married into other tribes, which at least they're half Choctaw and half of another tribe!! I started in on the grandchildren now and one of them have already promised me she would marry into the tribe ... we ahall see ... hopefully! Margie Silmon OK Choctaw -----Original Message----- From: Graywolf [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor ABSOLUTELY, Margie! Good insight. And yes, there aren't many full-bloods left. But here's a wild suggestion; why don't we encourage our children and grandchildren to find and marry other Choctaws. OK, go ahead and laugh; but I still think it's a good idea. Lucas Graywolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Silmon Margie Civ OC-ALC/LIP" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > You know, sometimes I believe that is why there is so much depression on the > reservations. The different nations on the rez want to retain their > traditions and uphold them but at the same time in order to survive and > make it, according to "the other way" they are being forced to live like the > materialistic, greedy "other way" which isn't the true full blood way which > clashes with their ways & beliefs and causes a sense of bewilderment and > depression. For many, many years the spirit of the different nations has > been tested... > > I believe in my heart that the spirit of us all will prevail in the circle > of life. However, I hope "we" all understand just what is going on before > it is too late. Full bloods are becoming extinct, as we speak. Just my > personal opinon. > > Margie Silmon > OK Choctaw > > -----Original Message----- > From: snet [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > My father was ashamed to speak of his Native American Choctaw heritage..We > were white and that was that. Dad was born in the back of a wagon > Jan.05,1925 around Chickasaw, Okla. area. He met and married mother who > was Cherokee/Irish.Dad lied on his service papers and went to WWII when he > was 16 as a belly gunner on a bomber in the Navy.I will never understand how > our so called government could shame a whole race of people into forsaking > their lives,families ,friends,culture all so that no one will know they are > of Native American descent.I was raised in California and had not a clue.I > found out my true nationality when I started seaching my children > linage.Their father is Cheyenne.Imagine my surprise when I discovered my > true ancestors were Choctaw.I now have my CDIB and tribal membership > cards.Dad died Jan 1997.He took his secrets to the grave with him. .I would > love to learn of the Tribal ways.I have always walked,talked and danced with > the spirits and was thought different by others.At least now I am aware of > the reasons for it.If not for the way the government treated the Native > American peoples what might our lives have been?? > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== Choctaw Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm
ABSOLUTELY, Margie! Good insight. And yes, there aren't many full-bloods left. But here's a wild suggestion; why don't we encourage our children and grandchildren to find and marry other Choctaws. OK, go ahead and laugh; but I still think it's a good idea. Lucas Graywolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Silmon Margie Civ OC-ALC/LIP" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > You know, sometimes I believe that is why there is so much depression on the > reservations. The different nations on the rez want to retain their > traditions and uphold them but at the same time in order to survive and > make it, according to "the other way" they are being forced to live like the > materialistic, greedy "other way" which isn't the true full blood way which > clashes with their ways & beliefs and causes a sense of bewilderment and > depression. For many, many years the spirit of the different nations has > been tested... > > I believe in my heart that the spirit of us all will prevail in the circle > of life. However, I hope "we" all understand just what is going on before > it is too late. Full bloods are becoming extinct, as we speak. Just my > personal opinon. > > Margie Silmon > OK Choctaw > > -----Original Message----- > From: snet [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > My father was ashamed to speak of his Native American Choctaw heritage..We > were white and that was that. Dad was born in the back of a wagon > Jan.05,1925 around Chickasaw, Okla. area. He met and married mother who > was Cherokee/Irish.Dad lied on his service papers and went to WWII when he > was 16 as a belly gunner on a bomber in the Navy.I will never understand how > our so called government could shame a whole race of people into forsaking > their lives,families ,friends,culture all so that no one will know they are > of Native American descent.I was raised in California and had not a clue.I > found out my true nationality when I started seaching my children > linage.Their father is Cheyenne.Imagine my surprise when I discovered my > true ancestors were Choctaw.I now have my CDIB and tribal membership > cards.Dad died Jan 1997.He took his secrets to the grave with him. .I would > love to learn of the Tribal ways.I have always walked,talked and danced with > the spirits and was thought different by others.At least now I am aware of > the reasons for it.If not for the way the government treated the Native > American peoples what might our lives have been?? > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > >
My father was ashamed to speak of his Native American Choctaw heritage..We were white and that was that. Dad was born in the back of a wagon Jan.05,1925 around Chickasaw, Okla. area. He met and married mother who was Cherokee/Irish.Dad lied on his service papers and went to WWII when he was 16 as a belly gunner on a bomber in the Navy.I will never understand how our so called government could shame a whole race of people into forsaking their lives,families ,friends,culture all so that no one will know they are of Native American descent.I was raised in California and had not a clue.I found out my true nationality when I started seaching my children linage.Their father is Cheyenne.Imagine my surprise when I discovered my true ancestors were Choctaw.I now have my CDIB and tribal membership cards.Dad died Jan 1997.He took his secrets to the grave with him. .I would love to learn of the Tribal ways.I have always walked,talked and danced with the spirits and was thought different by others.At least now I am aware of the reasons for it.If not for the way the government treated the Native American peoples what might our lives have been??
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You know, sometimes I believe that is why there is so much depression on the reservations. The different nations on the rez want to retain their traditions and uphold them but at the same time in order to survive and make it, according to "the other way" they are being forced to live like the materialistic, greedy "other way" which isn't the true full blood way which clashes with their ways & beliefs and causes a sense of bewilderment and depression. For many, many years the spirit of the different nations has been tested... I believe in my heart that the spirit of us all will prevail in the circle of life. However, I hope "we" all understand just what is going on before it is too late. Full bloods are becoming extinct, as we speak. Just my personal opinon. Margie Silmon OK Choctaw -----Original Message----- From: snet [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor My father was ashamed to speak of his Native American Choctaw heritage..We were white and that was that. Dad was born in the back of a wagon Jan.05,1925 around Chickasaw, Okla. area. He met and married mother who was Cherokee/Irish.Dad lied on his service papers and went to WWII when he was 16 as a belly gunner on a bomber in the Navy.I will never understand how our so called government could shame a whole race of people into forsaking their lives,families ,friends,culture all so that no one will know they are of Native American descent.I was raised in California and had not a clue.I found out my true nationality when I started seaching my children linage.Their father is Cheyenne.Imagine my surprise when I discovered my true ancestors were Choctaw.I now have my CDIB and tribal membership cards.Dad died Jan 1997.He took his secrets to the grave with him. .I would love to learn of the Tribal ways.I have always walked,talked and danced with the spirits and was thought different by others.At least now I am aware of the reasons for it.If not for the way the government treated the Native American peoples what might our lives have been?? ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== Choctaw Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm
Went through a few bouts here and there due to the humidity but am fairing well now and I've finally gotten most of my furnings (pictures, knick-knacks, etc) put up, slowly but soundly. So glad to hear from you. You know there are so many comments made on here and can't seen to read fast enough, is that Ole age? or what? At times I think I'm moving in slow-motion ...Probably Okie-style, A.a a a... I can say that now,I'm an OKIE! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor Still doing ok? ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm
Your analogy on medals especially in regards to our people makes one wish they could turn back the hands of time and fix all that has been done ...however in retrospect, the US could be worse off, especially if our people had been completely demolished. I truly believe it is for the better that we have survived this long!! And we are not done yet ... Marge Silmon OK Choctaw -----Original Message----- From: Graywolf [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 7:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor In all of this matter of medals, I'd like to ask a question. Does it strike anyone that it is odd that our people would fight for the government that stripped our people of their homes and marched us across a thousand miles letting our people and our livestock die in the most callous manner? Admittedly our men enlisted in the military because we could see the people of europe being assaulted and their freedoms stolen. But today we wrap ourselves in the flag of that government as some kind of badge; the same government that forced us to sign a treaty taking away all our rights as Indians and then begrudgingly gave us permission to be a "tribe" again when it suited their purposes. It's all emotionally confusing to someone who grew up during WWII and was indunated with radio and movies and billboards depicting our men and women in uniform with the U.S. Flag flying behind them. We were fighting for "the grand old flag and the American way of life" while our people back home in Mississippi and Oklahoma were being treated worse than trash; some struggling to survive on little farms with none of the amenities of modern life that other Americans had at the time. Our wonderful code talkers in WWI and WWII fought bravely and many gave their lives for that U.S. Flag. Yet, when they didn't get their veterans benefits and went to Washington with other veterans, they were trompled on by the U.S. Cavalry who drove them from the Capitol Mall at sabre point! Troops carrying the American flag. Hmmm. Very confusing. Lucas Graywolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > I believe it was the U.S. War Dept.!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 8:44 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > Yes Val I agree wholeheartedly. > > A warrior is not only a man who fights an enemy.There is much more to > it than that. > > I have the article that the Nation sends out that is about the Code > Talkers.The article doesn't elaborate on the medals and I was wondering who > presented them. > > The Memorial they have at Tushkahoma is impressive. Arla > > > > ---------- > > > Yes. Choctaw Code Talkers for their 'Code Talkin' in WWI. Navajo > recieved > > > the same for their Code Talkin' in WWII. Choctaw want to be recognized > for > > > Code Talkin' first as Miko stated out here in Washington State. > > > Choctaw Code Talkers were on the European Continent during WWI, which is > > > where most of that war was fought. > > > Nonetheless, Indian Country has something even more to be proud of. > Their > > > men are very brave. If I remember right the story goes that Choctaw > boys > > > were speaking amoungst each other just because they were homesick and > they > > > decided to pass messages back and forth to fool the enemy, maybe the > > > Russians? By WWII most of European enemies had learned the Muskogeon > > > languages and the Deneh (Navajo) were used. The Japanes spent most of > the > > > South Pacific fighting trying to figure that one out. The Dineh still > try > > > to keep their language to themselves. I love a good warrior. Not only > does > > > he take care of his own family, but he takes care of his community. > > > Valerie McAlvain - daughter of a WWII veteran of the South Pacific > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 8:16 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > > > > > Thought I'd ask the list before I called Richard. Arla > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > Have you contacted The Choctaw Nation of OK 1-800-522-6170 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: John & Arla Williams <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 7:33 AM > > > > > Subject: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me about the Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor given > to > > > the > > > > > families of the Code Talkers? Alla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > > > > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the > quotes > > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > quotes > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Choctaw Home Page: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: Send msg. to [email protected] Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......
Perhaps, we all could voice our concern about more recognition given to "Choctaw" code talkers to the Choctaw Nation. Thank God, the Choctaw Nation recognizes their own but there are many "other" people in the United States who don't realize this ... Especially, for their "Due recognition" as code talkers. This is with hopes that our chief could input this to Washington DC. I say this because I see Navajo and Comanche code talkers recognized in newspapers and magazines most of the time and although I was not there in the wars, I've heard stories about the Choctaw's contributions and I would like to see them recognized along side the others, also, that's all ... Margie Simon OK Choctaw -----Original Message----- From: Graywolf [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 7:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor In all of this matter of medals, I'd like to ask a question. Does it strike anyone that it is odd that our people would fight for the government that stripped our people of their homes and marched us across a thousand miles letting our people and our livestock die in the most callous manner? Admittedly our men enlisted in the military because we could see the people of europe being assaulted and their freedoms stolen. But today we wrap ourselves in the flag of that government as some kind of badge; the same government that forced us to sign a treaty taking away all our rights as Indians and then begrudgingly gave us permission to be a "tribe" again when it suited their purposes. It's all emotionally confusing to someone who grew up during WWII and was indunated with radio and movies and billboards depicting our men and women in uniform with the U.S. Flag flying behind them. We were fighting for "the grand old flag and the American way of life" while our people back home in Mississippi and Oklahoma were being treated worse than trash; some struggling to survive on little farms with none of the amenities of modern life that other Americans had at the time. Our wonderful code talkers in WWI and WWII fought bravely and many gave their lives for that U.S. Flag. Yet, when they didn't get their veterans benefits and went to Washington with other veterans, they were trompled on by the U.S. Cavalry who drove them from the Capitol Mall at sabre point! Troops carrying the American flag. Hmmm. Very confusing. Lucas Graywolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > I believe it was the U.S. War Dept.!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 8:44 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > Yes Val I agree wholeheartedly. > > A warrior is not only a man who fights an enemy.There is much more to > it than that. > > I have the article that the Nation sends out that is about the Code > Talkers.The article doesn't elaborate on the medals and I was wondering who > presented them. > > The Memorial they have at Tushkahoma is impressive. Arla > > > > ---------- > > > Yes. Choctaw Code Talkers for their 'Code Talkin' in WWI. Navajo > recieved > > > the same for their Code Talkin' in WWII. Choctaw want to be recognized > for > > > Code Talkin' first as Miko stated out here in Washington State. > > > Choctaw Code Talkers were on the European Continent during WWI, which is > > > where most of that war was fought. > > > Nonetheless, Indian Country has something even more to be proud of. > Their > > > men are very brave. If I remember right the story goes that Choctaw > boys > > > were speaking amoungst each other just because they were homesick and > they > > > decided to pass messages back and forth to fool the enemy, maybe the > > > Russians? By WWII most of European enemies had learned the Muskogeon > > > languages and the Deneh (Navajo) were used. The Japanes spent most of > the > > > South Pacific fighting trying to figure that one out. The Dineh still > try > > > to keep their language to themselves. I love a good warrior. Not only > does > > > he take care of his own family, but he takes care of his community. > > > Valerie McAlvain - daughter of a WWII veteran of the South Pacific > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 8:16 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > > > > > Thought I'd ask the list before I called Richard. Arla > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > Have you contacted The Choctaw Nation of OK 1-800-522-6170 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: John & Arla Williams <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 7:33 AM > > > > > Subject: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me about the Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor given > to > > > the > > > > > families of the Code Talkers? 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I agree. How many full bloods are known to exist? I believe it is important to teach those who have lost the traditions to the "white way". It's important to preserve the teachings and the heritage left to us. Judy Durr OK Choctaw -----Original Message----- From: Silmon Margie Civ OC-ALC/LIP <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:07 AM Subject: RE: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor >You know, sometimes I believe that is why there is so much depression on the >reservations. The different nations on the rez want to retain their >traditions and uphold them but at the same time in order to survive and >make it, according to "the other way" they are being forced to live like the >materialistic, greedy "other way" which isn't the true full blood way which >clashes with their ways & beliefs and causes a sense of bewilderment and >depression. For many, many years the spirit of the different nations has >been tested... > >I believe in my heart that the spirit of us all will prevail in the circle >of life. However, I hope "we" all understand just what is going on before >it is too late. Full bloods are becoming extinct, as we speak. Just my >personal opinon. > >Margie Silmon >OK Choctaw > >-----Original Message----- >From: snet [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:53 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > >My father was ashamed to speak of his Native American Choctaw heritage..We >were white and that was that. Dad was born in the back of a wagon >Jan.05,1925 around Chickasaw, Okla. area. He met and married mother who >was Cherokee/Irish.Dad lied on his service papers and went to WWII when he >was 16 as a belly gunner on a bomber in the Navy.I will never understand how >our so called government could shame a whole race of people into forsaking >their lives,families ,friends,culture all so that no one will know they are >of Native American descent.I was raised in California and had not a clue.I >found out my true nationality when I started seaching my children >linage.Their father is Cheyenne.Imagine my surprise when I discovered my >true ancestors were Choctaw.I now have my CDIB and tribal membership >cards.Dad died Jan 1997.He took his secrets to the grave with him. .I would >love to learn of the Tribal ways.I have always walked,talked and danced with >the spirits and was thought different by others.At least now I am aware of >the reasons for it.If not for the way the government treated the Native >American peoples what might our lives have been?? > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >Choctaw Home Page: >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >Home Page: >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm >
Yes, this used to be confusing to me, also. Then I realized the Choctaw Men in WWI were still Choctaw! In the repect of our 'Old Ways', I think like this. What would be the reciprocal? To not help fight would bring war to our soil, possibly loose our 'freedom', and not be able to live together? If we do not give, we do not recieve. To represent the Choctaw Nation in our hearts on another's soil, showing our bravery, stamina and sustainablility. Our People are brave and strong, I see the US govt. as manipulative and disrespectful. It is many years later. Why does it matter what the US Peoples believe? Doesn't it matter what We, the Choctaw believe of ourselves? No matter what war or conflict or delima, we must always recognize ourselves, the Choctaw. What differance does it matter what the US govt. or any other govt. believes? I can not forget what Christianization has done to us either. That is another conflicting emotion in me. We have been pushed and shoved with the Christian flag before us also. To think of the humbleness of our People in the passed causing me to sit in Peace. Valerie McAlvain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graywolf" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 5:10 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > In all of this matter of medals, I'd like to ask a question. Does it strike > anyone that it is odd that our people would fight for the government that > stripped our people of their homes and marched us across a thousand miles > letting our people and our livestock die in the most callous manner? > Admittedly our men enlisted in the military because we could see the people > of europe being assaulted and their freedoms stolen. But today we wrap > ourselves in the flag of that government as some kind of badge; the same > government that forced us to sign a treaty taking away all our rights as > Indians and then begrudgingly gave us permission to be a "tribe" again when > it suited their purposes. > > It's all emotionally confusing to someone who grew up during WWII and was > indunated with radio and movies and billboards depicting our men and women > in uniform with the U.S. Flag flying behind them. We were fighting for "the > grand old flag and the American way of life" while our people back home in > Mississippi and Oklahoma were being treated worse than trash; some > struggling to survive on little farms with none of the amenities of modern > life that other Americans had at the time. > > Our wonderful code talkers in WWI and WWII fought bravely and many gave > their lives for that U.S. Flag. Yet, when they didn't get their veterans > benefits and went to Washington with other veterans, they were trompled on > by the U.S. Cavalry who drove them from the Capitol Mall at sabre point! > Troops carrying the American flag. > Hmmm. Very confusing. > > Lucas Graywolf > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Val" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > I believe it was the U.S. War Dept.!!! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 8:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > > Yes Val I agree wholeheartedly. > > > A warrior is not only a man who fights an enemy.There is much more to > > it than that. > > > I have the article that the Nation sends out that is about the Code > > Talkers.The article doesn't elaborate on the medals and I was wondering > who > > presented them. > > > The Memorial they have at Tushkahoma is impressive. Arla > > > > > > ---------- > > > > Yes. Choctaw Code Talkers for their 'Code Talkin' in WWI. Navajo > > recieved > > > > the same for their Code Talkin' in WWII. Choctaw want to be > recognized > > for > > > > Code Talkin' first as Miko stated out here in Washington State. > > > > Choctaw Code Talkers were on the European Continent during WWI, which > is > > > > where most of that war was fought. > > > > Nonetheless, Indian Country has something even more to be proud of. > > Their > > > > men are very brave. If I remember right the story goes that Choctaw > > boys > > > > were speaking amoungst each other just because they were homesick and > > they > > > > decided to pass messages back and forth to fool the enemy, maybe the > > > > Russians? By WWII most of European enemies had learned the Muskogeon > > > > languages and the Deneh (Navajo) were used. The Japanes spent most of > > the > > > > South Pacific fighting trying to figure that one out. The Dineh still > > try > > > > to keep their language to themselves. I love a good warrior. Not > only > > does > > > > he take care of his own family, but he takes care of his community. > > > > Valerie McAlvain - daughter of a WWII veteran of the South Pacific > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 8:16 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought I'd ask the list before I called Richard. Arla > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > Have you contacted The Choctaw Nation of OK 1-800-522-6170 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: John & Arla Williams <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 7:33 AM > > > > > > Subject: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me about the Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor given > > to > > > > the > > > > > > families of the Code Talkers? Alla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > > > > > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the > > quotes > > > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... 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In all of this matter of medals, I'd like to ask a question. Does it strike anyone that it is odd that our people would fight for the government that stripped our people of their homes and marched us across a thousand miles letting our people and our livestock die in the most callous manner? Admittedly our men enlisted in the military because we could see the people of europe being assaulted and their freedoms stolen. But today we wrap ourselves in the flag of that government as some kind of badge; the same government that forced us to sign a treaty taking away all our rights as Indians and then begrudgingly gave us permission to be a "tribe" again when it suited their purposes. It's all emotionally confusing to someone who grew up during WWII and was indunated with radio and movies and billboards depicting our men and women in uniform with the U.S. Flag flying behind them. We were fighting for "the grand old flag and the American way of life" while our people back home in Mississippi and Oklahoma were being treated worse than trash; some struggling to survive on little farms with none of the amenities of modern life that other Americans had at the time. Our wonderful code talkers in WWI and WWII fought bravely and many gave their lives for that U.S. Flag. Yet, when they didn't get their veterans benefits and went to Washington with other veterans, they were trompled on by the U.S. Cavalry who drove them from the Capitol Mall at sabre point! Troops carrying the American flag. Hmmm. Very confusing. Lucas Graywolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > I believe it was the U.S. War Dept.!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 8:44 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > Yes Val I agree wholeheartedly. > > A warrior is not only a man who fights an enemy.There is much more to > it than that. > > I have the article that the Nation sends out that is about the Code > Talkers.The article doesn't elaborate on the medals and I was wondering who > presented them. > > The Memorial they have at Tushkahoma is impressive. Arla > > > > ---------- > > > Yes. Choctaw Code Talkers for their 'Code Talkin' in WWI. Navajo > recieved > > > the same for their Code Talkin' in WWII. Choctaw want to be recognized > for > > > Code Talkin' first as Miko stated out here in Washington State. > > > Choctaw Code Talkers were on the European Continent during WWI, which is > > > where most of that war was fought. > > > Nonetheless, Indian Country has something even more to be proud of. > Their > > > men are very brave. If I remember right the story goes that Choctaw > boys > > > were speaking amoungst each other just because they were homesick and > they > > > decided to pass messages back and forth to fool the enemy, maybe the > > > Russians? By WWII most of European enemies had learned the Muskogeon > > > languages and the Deneh (Navajo) were used. The Japanes spent most of > the > > > South Pacific fighting trying to figure that one out. The Dineh still > try > > > to keep their language to themselves. I love a good warrior. Not only > does > > > he take care of his own family, but he takes care of his community. > > > Valerie McAlvain - daughter of a WWII veteran of the South Pacific > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 8:16 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > > > > > Thought I'd ask the list before I called Richard. Arla > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > Have you contacted The Choctaw Nation of OK 1-800-522-6170 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: John & Arla Williams <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 7:33 AM > > > > > Subject: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me about the Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor given > to > > > the > > > > > families of the Code Talkers? Alla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > > > > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the > quotes > > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > quotes > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... 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I believe it was the U.S. War Dept.!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > Yes Val I agree wholeheartedly. > A warrior is not only a man who fights an enemy.There is much more to it than that. > I have the article that the Nation sends out that is about the Code Talkers.The article doesn't elaborate on the medals and I was wondering who presented them. > The Memorial they have at Tushkahoma is impressive. Arla > > ---------- > > Yes. Choctaw Code Talkers for their 'Code Talkin' in WWI. Navajo recieved > > the same for their Code Talkin' in WWII. Choctaw want to be recognized for > > Code Talkin' first as Miko stated out here in Washington State. > > Choctaw Code Talkers were on the European Continent during WWI, which is > > where most of that war was fought. > > Nonetheless, Indian Country has something even more to be proud of. Their > > men are very brave. If I remember right the story goes that Choctaw boys > > were speaking amoungst each other just because they were homesick and they > > decided to pass messages back and forth to fool the enemy, maybe the > > Russians? By WWII most of European enemies had learned the Muskogeon > > languages and the Deneh (Navajo) were used. The Japanes spent most of the > > South Pacific fighting trying to figure that one out. The Dineh still try > > to keep their language to themselves. I love a good warrior. Not only does > > he take care of his own family, but he takes care of his community. > > Valerie McAlvain - daughter of a WWII veteran of the South Pacific > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 8:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > > Thought I'd ask the list before I called Richard. Arla > > > > > > ---------- > > > > Have you contacted The Choctaw Nation of OK 1-800-522-6170 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: John & Arla Williams <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 7:33 AM > > > > Subject: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me about the Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor given to > > the > > > > families of the Code Talkers? Alla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > > > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm >
Yes. Choctaw Code Talkers for their 'Code Talkin' in WWI. Navajo recieved the same for their Code Talkin' in WWII. Choctaw want to be recognized for Code Talkin' first as Miko stated out here in Washington State. Choctaw Code Talkers were on the European Continent during WWI, which is where most of that war was fought. Nonetheless, Indian Country has something even more to be proud of. Their men are very brave. If I remember right the story goes that Choctaw boys were speaking amoungst each other just because they were homesick and they decided to pass messages back and forth to fool the enemy, maybe the Russians? By WWII most of European enemies had learned the Muskogeon languages and the Deneh (Navajo) were used. The Japanes spent most of the South Pacific fighting trying to figure that one out. The Dineh still try to keep their language to themselves. I love a good warrior. Not only does he take care of his own family, but he takes care of his community. Valerie McAlvain - daughter of a WWII veteran of the South Pacific ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > Thought I'd ask the list before I called Richard. Arla > > ---------- > > Have you contacted The Choctaw Nation of OK 1-800-522-6170 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John & Arla Williams <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 7:33 AM > > Subject: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me about the Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor given to the > > families of the Code Talkers? Alla > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm >
Have you contacted The Choctaw Nation of OK 1-800-522-6170 ----- Original Message ----- From: John & Arla Williams <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 1980 7:33 AM Subject: [CHAHTA] Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor > Can anyone tell me about the Choctaw Nation Medal of Valor given to the families of the Code Talkers? Alla > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >