NASHOBATEK: You can e-mail historian from Choctaw Nation and she will send you phamphlets and info all about the Choctaw ponies. Very interesting indeed. Heres website: http://www.choctawnation.com/history.htm Sincerely, Marge -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 10:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing This is on another subject, but i would not know who else to ask but all of you.. I am a huge horse luv'r and want to know about the "Choctaw Ponies" i have heard of. ( I've heard very little, next to nothing) Can anyone tell me of them???? is there somewhere to read about them? or someone i can contact to learn of them. Brandi ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: Send msg. to [email protected] Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......

Know your're not talking to me but I do know what you mean by that ... which would have been one big bad mistake on his part, as far as Chahtas are concerned. I have wanted all nations to change back to thier own tribal names...that is the only way we will be whole again. -----Original Message----- From: Ruthie King [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 10:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing I saw a bumper sticker once that read, "Aren't you glad Columbus wasn't looking for Turkey?" LOL! Sorry...just had to throw that one in the mix. Ruthie ----Original Message Follows---- From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:07:36 EDT I think personaly i just take pride in being Choctaw, I don't mind if someone calls me Indian, Native American, or American Indian, I have had friends refer to me as Indian, and any, and everytime...I just take pride in just the thought of being assotiated with my ancestors, no matter what the reference is. So, I would fall under the catigory as having no prefernce as to what I am called, its what it means to me inside that counts to me. I take pride in what my ancestors mean to me, not to someone else. Cause to someone else it could mean something completly different. I do understand that being called an Indian in one way or another can be ofencive, and don't get me wrong, in some cases I would take it the wrong way also. a Pusley... ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send msg. to [email protected] Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send msg. to [email protected] Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......

My brother, who lives in OK has a number of friends who are full blood or high percentage of Indian blood. He said that being referred to as a human being was an honor. My brother and I are more Irish than Indian but he has the honor amongst his friends as being called a human being. I will ask him this weekend what his friends like to be called as far as Indian, NA, Choctaw, etc. WILL

First of all, Columbus did make the mistake of calling the many nations in South America ... Indian as in eastern Indians (India). Being 3/4 Choctaw, I have always felt like I like being called Native American from the Chahta Nation. But I believe the canadians are right about the First Nation. From the historical aspect of it Chahtas were among the FIRST in the Americas... One proud CHATA! Margie Silmon -----Original Message----- From: Dodie [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 9:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing Tammy: I use Indian or American Indian. I did a little person survey on this one time since I'm on several list. I got tons of different opinions. I listed preference for, Indian, American Indian, Native American. They end up by preference in that order. I found it pretty interesting. I would like to hear the opinions of the list members and why they prefer it, also. This was a good, or to me anyway, suggestion. Dodie Tammy Jones wrote: > I don't think anyone is posting to this list. I would like to have some > discussions about the term Native American (which most people are using) vs. > American Indian (which I prefer) > Tammy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dodie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:45 PM > Subject: [CHAHTA] testing > > > testing > > I have not gotten any post since Aug. 14 th. > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== Choctaw Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm

I live in TX and get the same thing. I am mixed blood and people here assume I am Mexican. I have been asked if I speak English many times and I do not have a real dark complexion. It is because we have a large Mexican population here and of course we are related to the Mexican people, so share many of the same features. I read some where that the Chahta are/may be from the Aztec. Does anyone else know of this? I think I read this somewhere on the net. I'm terrible about finding something then forgetting to bookmark it. I too am very proud of my Chahta blood and always say I am Chahta. Dodie [email protected] wrote: > Reading all these discussions about what we should call ourselves, I was > reminded of what had happened to me recently. I was asked what nationality > I am, to which I replied. "Choctaw". Their response was: "What's that?" > I had to explain that I am a member of the Choctaw Tribe of Oklahoma while > living in SE Texas where most seem to assume that I am Hispanic by my > coloring. I do prefer to be called Choctaw over any other nationality. > Trish > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm

Hi, I'm mixed blood also and proud of my Choctaw / Cherokee heritage. When people meet me, they question my heritage because of my looks. I'm light brown haired, green eyed and with light skin(I let them know my father, English/German is responsible my looks. My mother is dark skinned, black haired and blue eyed. My grandparents, had the "Choctaw, Native American, First People" look. The Navajo people use the the term Dine', "The People". My Grandparents lived in Pond Creek, OK and moved to Arizona in the 1934. We were taught to respect all cultures and do the best we could possibly do to maintain ours. All of these terms are used to recognize and describe who we are to others for their understanding. I know who I am and am very proud of this. I prefer, Choctaw. However any of the other respectful terms of description will do. There will always be controversy even among ourselves. Respect for ourselves is most important. I'm an artist who work recreates paintings based in reseached information of North and South American artifacts. I'm not an expert, however I have to research all the artifacts used in my paintings. I have done extensive research with Archeologist from Mexico and Arizona on their projects. I have work in the Museum of History and Anthropology in Mexico City, Mexico. Through my own research and some of the experts in the Anthropological field say there are similarities to the the Aztec culture with the artwork, the burial sites, the ballgames, stories, ect. The ballgame and stories were some of the areas that my research was focused on for work in the museum in Mexico. The "Mound People" are said to be desended from a similar culture. This is one area that I am interested in because of my heritage. The 5 tribes and possibly others came from them. The Aztec culture has been known to reach up into Arizona and New Mexico with the trade. Their trade routes were extensive and some people forget that trade routes were in Canada, Mexico and South America before Columbus ever set foot in the Americas. In ruins in Arizona, Gulf Coast shells and shell jewlery have been found in the desert. We don't have an ocean in this area...Mexico is the closest. This is one example of trade. The Hopi and similar cultures have stories about migration to the 4 directions. Their beginings seem to have connections to South America and Mexico. In the migration, they are to have traveled to the end of the land in all 4 directions. Canada is known as the back door in Hopi stories. There are stories that say they went to get water from each direction and then went to Oriabi, the center of the earth for them. This is paraphased. Remember, that in stories, myth and legend, there is a kernal of truth... Hope this helps. Judith -----Original Message----- From: Dodie <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Is there an "exact" answer >I live in TX and get the same thing. I am mixed blood and people here assume I am >Mexican. I have been asked if I speak English many times and I do not have a real >dark complexion. It is because we have a large Mexican population here and of >course we are related to the Mexican people, so share many of the same features. >I read some where that the Chahta are/may be from the Aztec. Does anyone else >know of this? I think I read this somewhere on the net. I'm terrible about >finding something then forgetting to bookmark it. I too am very proud of my >Chahta blood and always say I am Chahta. >Dodie > >[email protected] wrote: > >> Reading all these discussions about what we should call ourselves, I was >> reminded of what had happened to me recently. I was asked what nationality >> I am, to which I replied. "Choctaw". Their response was: "What's that?" >> I had to explain that I am a member of the Choctaw Tribe of Oklahoma while >> living in SE Texas where most seem to assume that I am Hispanic by my >> coloring. I do prefer to be called Choctaw over any other nationality. >> Trish >> >> ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >> Choctaw Home Page: >> http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >To Unsubscribe: >Send msg. to [email protected] >Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes >Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >

I'm starting to use "First Americans". Please note I have another e-mail address now. It is [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Tammy Jones <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing >I don't think anyone is posting to this list. I would like to have some >discussions about the term Native American (which most people are using) vs. >American Indian (which I prefer) >Tammy >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dodie" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:45 PM >Subject: [CHAHTA] testing > > >> testing >> I have not gotten any post since Aug. 14 th. >> >> >> ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >> To Unsubscribe: >> Send msg. to [email protected] >> Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes >> Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >> >> > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >Home Page: >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm

I saw a bumper sticker once that read, "Aren't you glad Columbus wasn't looking for Turkey?" LOL! Sorry...just had to throw that one in the mix. Ruthie ----Original Message Follows---- From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:07:36 EDT I think personaly i just take pride in being Choctaw, I don't mind if someone calls me Indian, Native American, or American Indian, I have had friends refer to me as Indian, and any, and everytime...I just take pride in just the thought of being assotiated with my ancestors, no matter what the reference is. So, I would fall under the catigory as having no prefernce as to what I am called, its what it means to me inside that counts to me. I take pride in what my ancestors mean to me, not to someone else. Cause to someone else it could mean something completly different. I do understand that being called an Indian in one way or another can be ofencive, and don't get me wrong, in some cases I would take it the wrong way also. a Pusley... ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send msg. to [email protected] Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Gotta love this way of communicating! :-) I believe you are correct. Ruthie ----Original Message Follows---- From: Dodie <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:38:53 -0500 Ruthie: I did not include First Nations in my little survey because I didn't think of it. I think and I may be wrong that our brother and sister in Canada use First Nations and some of the northern tribes of US. I think it is being us by more Indian throughout the US. Probably thanks to our wonderful computers that connect more of us together. Dodie Ruthie King wrote: > I think there are merits to both terms for "First Nations". :-) > > However, now there are people who are descended from India Immigrants who > are "American" and "Indian"... and anyone here is "Native to America." > > Interesting topic! > > Ruthie > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: faynshep <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:07:35 -0500 > > Hi Tammy, That's a good idea. Lots and lots find ourselves not knowing > which way to turn. Especially those of us who either (1) know there isn't > much NA blood in our veins and (2) can't even prove that part. We feel a > little out of tune and wish to learn from those that are, how would you say, > more NA. See how awkward you can feel. It's hard. Guys how about us using > this list too. > fay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tammy Jones <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 9:05 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > > > I don't think anyone is posting to this list. I would like to have some > > discussions about the term Native American (which most people are using) > vs. > > American Indian (which I prefer) > > Tammy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dodie" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:45 PM > > Subject: [CHAHTA] testing > > > > > > > testing > > > I have not gotten any post since Aug. 14 th. > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Home Page: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Choctaw Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send msg. to [email protected] Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

My Choctaw Grandmother used to call me and my sister her "Choctaw Dolls." :-) She forgot about the Scot I guess. ;-) Ruthie ----Original Message Follows---- From: Dodie <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:30:32 -0500 Tammy: I use Indian or American Indian. I did a little person survey on this one time since I'm on several list. I got tons of different opinions. I listed preference for, Indian, American Indian, Native American. They end up by preference in that order. I found it pretty interesting. I would like to hear the opinions of the list members and why they prefer it, also. This was a good, or to me anyway, suggestion. Dodie Tammy Jones wrote: > I don't think anyone is posting to this list. I would like to have some > discussions about the term Native American (which most people are using) vs. > American Indian (which I prefer) > Tammy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dodie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:45 PM > Subject: [CHAHTA] testing > > > testing > > I have not gotten any post since Aug. 14 th. > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== Choctaw Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

When I heard it, it was used regionally in Canada. My parents were doing mission work up on Six Nations at the time. Even when they moved into the Yukon Territory of Canada, the Native people were called "First Nations." I just always liked it. :-) Ruthie ----Original Message Follows---- From: faynshep <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [CHAHTA] First Nation?? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:14:54 -0500 I have friends at the Pine Ridge rez and I have noticed that a lot of times there is a remark of "First Nation" or "First People". In some NA languages when translated they are referring to themselves as "human beings". Do you think there is different meanings for different tribes or maybe different locations or territories? fay ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

I think there are merits to both terms for "First Nations". :-) However, now there are people who are descended from India Immigrants who are "American" and "Indian"... and anyone here is "Native to America." Interesting topic! Ruthie ----Original Message Follows---- From: faynshep <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:07:35 -0500 Hi Tammy, That's a good idea. Lots and lots find ourselves not knowing which way to turn. Especially those of us who either (1) know there isn't much NA blood in our veins and (2) can't even prove that part. We feel a little out of tune and wish to learn from those that are, how would you say, more NA. See how awkward you can feel. It's hard. Guys how about us using this list too. fay ----- Original Message ----- From: Tammy Jones <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > I don't think anyone is posting to this list. I would like to have some > discussions about the term Native American (which most people are using) vs. > American Indian (which I prefer) > Tammy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dodie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:45 PM > Subject: [CHAHTA] testing > > > > testing > > I have not gotten any post since Aug. 14 th. > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== Choctaw Home Page: http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Glad you are all finding a channel for other discussions. I'm going to just stick with the genealogy for awhile. Too many lists to keep up with. Have a great day! I'll come back when I have more time. MH *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 8/21/2000 at 10:39 PM Tammy Jones wrote: >Fay, I don't think any Choctaw would hold it against anyone who used "Native >American" just that they prefer something else. I think your grandmother >is very proud of you and the fact that you have done so much to help your >Choctaw cousins. I know I am. Tammy >----- Original Message ----- >From: "faynshep" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 10:22 PM >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > > >> OK got to leave you guys for a while. Really enjoyed it. As long as my >> heart is clean, I don't think dirty can come out of my mouth, hopefully. >My >> grandmother will wait for me on the other side with a bar of soap for me >if >> it does. >> fay >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Ruthie King <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 10:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing >> >> >> > My Choctaw Grandmother used to call me and my sister her "Choctaw >Dolls." >> > :-) She forgot about the Scot I guess. ;-) >> > Ruthie >> > >> > >> > ----Original Message Follows---- >> > From: Dodie <[email protected]> >> > Reply-To: [email protected] >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing >> > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:30:32 -0500 >> > >> > Tammy: >> > I use Indian or American Indian. I did a little person survey on this >one >> > time >> > since I'm on several list. I got tons of different opinions. I listed >> > preference >> > for, Indian, American Indian, Native American. They end up by preference >> in >> > that >> > order. I found it pretty interesting. I would like to hear the opinions >of >> > the >> > list members and why they prefer it, also. >> > This was a good, or to me anyway, suggestion. >> > Dodie >> > >> > Tammy Jones wrote: >> > >> > > I don't think anyone is posting to this list. I would like to have >> some >> > > discussions about the term Native American (which most people are >> using) >> > vs. >> > > American Indian (which I prefer) >> > > Tammy >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Dodie" <[email protected]> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:45 PM >> > > Subject: [CHAHTA] testing >> > > >> > > > testing >> > > > I have not gotten any post since Aug. 14 th. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >> > > > To Unsubscribe: >> > > > Send msg. to [email protected] >> > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the >> > quotes >> > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >> > > Home Page: >> > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm >> > >> > >> > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >> > Choctaw Home Page: >> > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm >> > >> > >> > ________________________________________________________________________ >> > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >> > >> > >> > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >> > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: >> > Send msg. to [email protected] >> > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes >> > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >> > >> >> >> ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >> To Unsubscribe: >> Send msg. to [email protected] >> Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes >> Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >> >> > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: >Send msg. to [email protected] >Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes >Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......

Thank you, I have been horse crazy since i was a baby, and so is my daughter, shes 7 and is intent to enter our rodeo here in town next year. She is alot worse than i was at that age! Thanks again, I had not heard of them till i saw mention of them in a calender from my Choctaw membership last year. Brandi

This is on another subject, but i would not know who else to ask but all of you.. I am a huge horse luv'r and want to know about the "Choctaw Ponies" i have heard of. ( I've heard very little, next to nothing) Can anyone tell me of them???? is there somewhere to read about them? or someone i can contact to learn of them. Brandi

Tammy, I too prefer American Indian. I recently saw-heard a term I really Like. It is "First People 0r First Americans." Barbara

Ruthie, that is the cutiest thing! Brandi

I think personaly i just take pride in being Choctaw, I don't mind if someone calls me Indian, Native American, or American Indian, I have had friends refer to me as Indian, and any, and everytime...I just take pride in just the thought of being assotiated with my ancestors, no matter what the reference is. So, I would fall under the catigory as having no prefernce as to what I am called, its what it means to me inside that counts to me. I take pride in what my ancestors mean to me, not to someone else. Cause to someone else it could mean something completly different. I do understand that being called an Indian in one way or another can be ofencive, and don't get me wrong, in some cases I would take it the wrong way also. a Pusley...

Fay, I don't think any Choctaw would hold it against anyone who used "Native American" just that they prefer something else. I think your grandmother is very proud of you and the fact that you have done so much to help your Choctaw cousins. I know I am. Tammy ----- Original Message ----- From: "faynshep" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > OK got to leave you guys for a while. Really enjoyed it. As long as my > heart is clean, I don't think dirty can come out of my mouth, hopefully. My > grandmother will wait for me on the other side with a bar of soap for me if > it does. > fay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ruthie King <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 10:11 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > > > > My Choctaw Grandmother used to call me and my sister her "Choctaw Dolls." > > :-) She forgot about the Scot I guess. ;-) > > Ruthie > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: Dodie <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:30:32 -0500 > > > > Tammy: > > I use Indian or American Indian. I did a little person survey on this one > > time > > since I'm on several list. I got tons of different opinions. I listed > > preference > > for, Indian, American Indian, Native American. They end up by preference > in > > that > > order. I found it pretty interesting. I would like to hear the opinions of > > the > > list members and why they prefer it, also. > > This was a good, or to me anyway, suggestion. > > Dodie > > > > Tammy Jones wrote: > > > > > I don't think anyone is posting to this list. I would like to have > some > > > discussions about the term Native American (which most people are > using) > > vs. > > > American Indian (which I prefer) > > > Tammy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dodie" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:45 PM > > > Subject: [CHAHTA] testing > > > > > > > testing > > > > I have not gotten any post since Aug. 14 th. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > > quotes > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > Home Page: > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > Choctaw Home Page: > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

Boy am I glad!!! Ruthie King wrote: > I saw a bumper sticker once that read, "Aren't you glad Columbus wasn't > looking for Turkey?" LOL! Sorry...just had to throw that one in the mix. > > Ruthie > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:07:36 EDT > > I think personaly i just take pride in being Choctaw, > I don't mind if someone calls me Indian, Native American, or American > Indian, I have had friends refer to me as Indian, and any, and everytime...I > just take pride in just the thought of being assotiated with my ancestors, > no > matter what the reference is. > So, I would fall under the catigory as having no prefernce as to what I > am > called, its what it means to me inside that counts to me. I take pride in > what my ancestors mean to me, not to someone else. Cause to someone else it > could mean something completly different. > I do understand that being called an Indian in one way or another can be > ofencive, and don't get me wrong, in some cases I would take it the wrong > way > also. > > a Pusley... > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......