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I myself have just yesterday, came across the language "on-line" classes. And didn't have to persuade myself to sign-up. I have always wanted to learn the language and never thought I'd have the chance (living in California) to actually learn. so, I signed up! I'm happy, because it will be taught by someone who can teach me, instead of just reading the words out of a book. I still don't yet know how the vowels are pronounce and therefor I now I'm doing poorly on my own, but I have been making an effort. I was excited to sign up, and called my aunt to tell her, and she said "just who are you going to speak this too?" and i told her "my self" and that's all the reason i need. how ever both of my children are interested also, and so i will be teaching them as i learn, and my horse is learning too, cause i have been talking to him with some commands, in Choctaw, over the last couple years. It will be interesting to see how close I am on the pronunciation. though my horse does not no the difference any way. There is a friend of my aunts that lives in Fresno, that I see once in a while, that I can practice on, and they have helped me with some of the words I have had problems with. In fact there is someone that is one of those friends of my aunts, that went to the Choctaw Nation to study with Lillie Roberts in order to be qualified as a teacher here in Fresno, Calif. And is teaching classes now, however it is to far for be to go to learn, so this on-line class will be good. Brandi

Kiowa Tribe Fights for Language .c The Associated Press By THOMAS MULLEN CARNEGIE, Okla. (AP) - In a long conference room surrounded by darkened halls, six members of the Kiowa Tribe gathered at their tribal center with the goal of saving the tribe's very future. Ages 15 to 67, they came here one night to study their native language, which just decades after being put into writing is mostly spoken only by a shrinking number of tribal elders. One of them is Dorothy Kodaseet, who sits at a conference table with the assembled group. Her eyes - behind glasses as big around as coasters - rarely move from a prepared worksheet as she slowly reads a list of Kiowa words. ``Etal,'' she says, stubbornly repeating the Kiowa word for corn several times until the group echoes her exact pronunciation: ay-tal. The session, often sidetracked by storytelling and good-natured ribbing, resembles a pretest study session for which all members are prepared. But at stake in this test is the loss of the Kiowa language, and none among the group is prepared for that. ``This is our last chance,'' says Ernest Toppah, 63, of his tribe's efforts to sustain a language that has been slowly dying for most of the past century. Across the table, Bobby Guoladdle, 67, recalls having his mouth washed out with soap as a child at a government-run boarding school in Anadarko for uttering Kiowa words. ``I got so used to it I started brushing my teeth with soap after a while,'' he says with a chuckle. Native languages like Kiowa, purged for decades through governmental assimilation programs and bombarded by a cacophonous English-speaking culture, have dwindled drastically - dozens to the point of extinction. While it was once believed that there were more than 300 native languages spoken in North America, only about 155 remain. More than 40 of the extant languages claim less than 10 living speakers, according to numbers from the Census Bureau. ``It's awfully bleak for most of the languages,'' said Greg Bigler, a Yucchi who helped found the Oklahoma Native Language Association in 1997 to promote the usage of tribal languages. No tribe is immune. The Navajo Tribe in the American Southwest claims 150,000 speakers - more than four times the number listed in any other tribe. But between 1980 and 1990, the tribe saw a 30 percent jump in Navajo children who spoke only English. ``If that can happen to a tribe like the Navajo, the rest of us are in serious trouble,'' Bigler said. While Oklahoma claims a nation-high 25 native languages, less than 7 percent of the state's American Indians say they speak one of them. Only a fraction of that 7 percent is fluent. There are no fluent speakers in the Miami Tribe, said Julie Olds, the tribe's cultural preservation officer. Relying on a network of elders who are ``conversational'' in Miami, Olds said the tribe holds language classes and two summer immersion camps in which participants spend a week secluded with Miami-speaking elders. Camp visitors range in age from 5 all the way to tribal elders, which Olds said is an important dynamic of the program. ``The children need the support of those elders and to see them there, and it's a great thing for the elders to see the language is not going to be gone,'' Olds said. The Comanche Tribe also has undertaken a language immersion program in which a non-speaker is teamed with a fluent elder, spending as much time as possible speaking in the native tongue. Lillie Roberts teaches the Choctaw language at classes in Durant, which are broadcast on the Internet and prominently advertised on the tribe's Web page. A network of Choctaw speakers teach the language in more than a dozen other Oklahoma communities. But Roberts knows that even Choctaw, with roughly 18,000 tribal members claiming to be speakers, has an uncertain future. ``I don't think it can ever come back in the force it was in the old days, but to preserve the language is our goal now,'' Roberts said. Classes are taught within the Chickasaw, Cherokee and other tribes. Help comes as well from the University of Oklahoma, which teaches four native languages - Cherokee, Choctaw, Kiowa and Creek-Seminole. The classes attract about 330 students each semester, Indian and non-Indian alike, said Pat Gilman, chair of the anthropology department that offers the classes. ``One of the university's stated goals is to focus on Native American studies and the fact that we get such high interest in it suggests that people out there in the state find it interesting,'' Gilman said. But if tribes have any hope of sustaining their languages going forward, they must reach that all-important demographic: youth. It will not be easy, predicted Isiah Redbird, a 15-year-old Kiowa. He and his 17-year-old brother, Sunny, were the only teen-agers at a recent Kiowa language class. ``The Kiowa people my age only use the (Kiowa) words in slang, but it's not meant to be that way,'' said Redbird, who is dedicated to learning the Kiowa language. ``The language doesn't sound cool to them. It just sounds weird.'' Redbird, who plans to attend Yale University like his 19-year-old sister, Melody, said he would like to return one day to Carnegie and lead the Kiowa Tribe. Whether the tribe still has a language by the time that might happen, he said, is up to him and his peers. ``The language is dying out and it's terrible, it's sad,'' said Redbird. ``Classes will slow down the process of losing Kiowa (language), but that's all we can do unless we get the youth to learn the language.'' On the Net: www.choctawnation.com Information on native languages: http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/(tilde)jar/TIL.html AP-NY-08-23-00 1203EDT Copyright 2000 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press.

Yokoke Marcie.....I've found a little...not alot in that time period about Chahta specifically, but the mound builders in general I think is gonna have to be mixed in to get her enough pages. Thanks for the help. Shelley

Halito Shelley, The Choctaw & other southeastern tribes are descended from the people who built the mounds during the Mississippian & earlier phases in southeastern history. Have you tried a search in the search engine altavista.com? Try Mississippian indian mounds or just indian mounds. Try Markie & Fay's site, it has some Choctaw history. Also try this one called The Peoples paths home page, North American Indian Historical Sites. Its got lots of links. Address is http://yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/Special/mounds.htm Hope this helps. I only know of one mound associated with the Choctaw directly & thats the mother mound in Mississippi.Good luck with the paper. Bye, Marcie

Could anyone tell me how to unsubscribe? I keep getting my message returned. At 09:46 PM 8/23/00 +0200, you wrote: >Halito! > >Could anyone tell me how I could get in contact with the Oklahoma Native Language Association? > >yakoke, >brandon > > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >To Unsubscribe: >Send msg. to [email protected] >Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes >Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > >

Pashofa ? Is this not the same as Tanchi ?

Here is a recepie (sp?) that I found for Pashofa: 1 lb cracked corn (Pearl Hominy) 1 lb fresh lean pork (meaty backbone) 2 qt of water (add more if needed) Wash and clean corn. Bring water to boil and add corn. Cook slowly, stirring often. When corn is half done, add the fresh pork. Cook until meat and corn are tender and soft. Mixture should be thick and soupy. Cooking time is about 4 hours. Do not add salt. Each individual adds salt to taste. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 1980 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Re: CHAHTA-D Digest V00 #108 > Nita, > We do two shows in which they are making sorghum. We also do one at Wetumka,OK on the Seminole Museum Grounds. For many whites and Indians this was sugar as many of you probably know. At Seminole the women make fry bread with sorghum on it. It is almost to die for. > The cane is cut and stripped of leaves and then is put into a mill where mules or horses turn the mill to squeeze out the juice. It is then put in shallow vats and cooked. It takes them all day to cook down the juice. The vats have compartments and as it cooks it moves from one compartment to another. > At Overstreet it is cooked over a wood fire and I think it is at Seminole too. The smell is wonderful. > Arla > >

Who were "the first people"? Which tribe can truly claim that title? Are you refering to the people who migrated from Mongolia? Or the Aztecs? Or an Indian that was picked up on the way to the "New World"? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > Only it was not America before contact from the out side , the natives had > their own names for it. > Might use First Peoples ? > Dan >

Halito, My daughter has an 8 page report due Friday on an Ancient Civilization. She would like to do it on the Choctaw, but I'm not sure if I can find much info from that time period. And, yes, this is the first week of school!!! If anyone has any URLs or links or sites they might know of that can help with this please let me know...otherwise, I guess she'll do the Aztecs. Thanks for any help or info anyone can provide. Yakoke! Shelley

>>Are you refering to the people who migrated from Mongolia<< or maybe this is backwards and we went there (g) hence we are the first people. "Jim Morrison, Jr." wrote: > Who were "the first people"? Which tribe can truly claim that title? Are you > refering to the people who migrated from Mongolia? Or the Aztecs? Or an > Indian that was picked up on the way to the "New World"? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:40 AM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > > > Only it was not America before contact from the out side , the natives had > > their own names for it. > > Might use First Peoples ? > > Dan > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......

I think that you mean to say Wewoka instead of Wetumka. And it is always the last Saturday in October. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 8/23/1980 at 6:45 AM John & Arla Williams wrote: >Nita, >We do two shows in which they are making sorghum. We also do one at Wetumka,OK on the Seminole Museum Grounds. For many whites and Indians this was sugar as many of you probably know. At Seminole the women make fry bread with sorghum on it. It is almost to die for. > The cane is cut and stripped of leaves and then is put into a mill where mules or horses turn the mill to squeeze out the juice. It is then put in shallow vats and cooked. It takes them all day to cook down the juice. The vats have compartments and as it cooks it moves from one compartment to another. > At Overstreet it is cooked over a wood fire and I think it is at Seminole too. The smell is wonderful. >Arla > > >---------- >> Dear Arla, >> >> Your activities with the Overstreet Kerr Farm sounds very interesting! I >> would love to have directions for making sorgham. Would it be possible for >> you to share that with us? Not that I am going to make it, I would just enjoy >> knowing how they did that. >> >> Thanks, >> Nita >> >> >> > ------------- >> > >> > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing( Isuba Chata) >> > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 80 14:55:01 PDT >> > From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] >> > >> > Fay, >> > Are they part of the Overstreet Family from Keota? I have met several of >> the Overstreet Family. >> > For those of you who don't know, the Overstreet Kerr Historical Farm is a >> homestead that was Chata Allotment land. The homestead was given to the Kerr >> Foundation to be used as a teaching tool. They have lots of kids and adults >> come through. We do their fall Farmfest each year in October. We demonstrate >> 1800's things such as woodwork,basketweaving,soapmaking,sorgum making,etc. >> > There are a lot of the original things in the house and has the history of >> the place also. >> > They have had Chata Pigs,Ponies and had a buffalo last year. Don't know if >> Jim still has everything now. >> > The land has a lot of feeling to it when you walk it. >> > Arla >> > >> > ---------- >> > > Arla, Do you by any chance know Bill and Patsy Overstreet? They live in >> > > Kountze, TX now but at one time they lived in Victoria, TX and raised >> > > Appaloosa horses. I know she had one she called Freckles. >> > > fay >> >> >> ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >> To Unsubscribe: >> Send msg. to [email protected] >> Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes >> Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >> >> > > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: >Send msg. to [email protected] >Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes >Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures.......

Nope, First Peoples would be in central east Africa. Maybe "First Tribes" and "First Tribal". May be this has gone on too long. Semantics after a while makes my mind spin and then there's the facial tics. Kevin Frindik Please note I have another e-mail address now. It is [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Dan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing >Only it was not America before contact from the out side , the natives had >their own names for it. > Might use First Peoples ? >Dan >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Crazy Diamond" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 1:58 AM >Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > > >> I'm starting to use "First Americans". >> Please note I have another e-mail address now. It is >[email protected] >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tammy Jones <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Date: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing >> >> >> >I don't think anyone is posting to this list. I would like to have some >> >discussions about the term Native American (which most people are using) >> vs. >> >American Indian (which I prefer) >> >Tammy >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Dodie" <[email protected]> >> >To: <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:45 PM >> >Subject: [CHAHTA] testing >> > >> > >> >> testing >> >> I have not gotten any post since Aug. 14 th. >> >> >> > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >Home Page: >http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm

Halito Hishi Ohoyo Just got done having to delete over 100 emails, mostly from this place. :) It wasn't the Aztecs who were in this area, Aztecs were down in Mexico, yes? Anyway..it was the Mound Builders...there's stuff in the encyclopedia on windows here at the library (Librarian just showed me how to get to that)So maybe your daughter can go that route...we ARE descendants of the Mound Builders.. Hope that helps.. Barbara -- On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:11:52 Choctaw wrote: >Halito, >My daughter has an 8 page report due Friday on an Ancient Civilization. She >would like to do it on the Choctaw, but I'm not sure if I can find much info >from that time period. And, yes, this is the first week of school!!! If >anyone has any URLs or links or sites they might know of that can help with >this please let me know...otherwise, I guess she'll do the Aztecs. >Thanks for any help or info anyone can provide. Yakoke! >Shelley > > >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== >To Unsubscribe: >Send msg. to [email protected] >Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes >Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com

Tammy, That was a good idea. I too like the term, First Americans. I was honored to see the dancing at the Grand Rhond Pow Wow, especially the children. they danced with their whole heart. This is what we need, having our hearts in our purpose. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Tammy Jones <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > I don't think anyone is posting to this list. I would like to have some > discussions about the term Native American (which most people are using) vs. > American Indian (which I prefer) > Tammy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dodie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:45 PM > Subject: [CHAHTA] testing > > > > testing > > I have not gotten any post since Aug. 14 th. > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > Home Page: > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > >

Dear Arla, Your activities with the Overstreet Kerr Farm sounds very interesting! I would love to have directions for making sorgham. Would it be possible for you to share that with us? Not that I am going to make it, I would just enjoy knowing how they did that. Thanks, Nita > ------------- > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing( Isuba Chata) > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 80 14:55:01 PDT > From: "John & Arla Williams" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Fay, > Are they part of the Overstreet Family from Keota? I have met several of the Overstreet Family. > For those of you who don't know, the Overstreet Kerr Historical Farm is a homestead that was Chata Allotment land. The homestead was given to the Kerr Foundation to be used as a teaching tool. They have lots of kids and adults come through. We do their fall Farmfest each year in October. We demonstrate 1800's things such as woodwork,basketweaving,soapmaking,sorgum making,etc. > There are a lot of the original things in the house and has the history of the place also. > They have had Chata Pigs,Ponies and had a buffalo last year. Don't know if Jim still has everything now. > The land has a lot of feeling to it when you walk it. > Arla > > ---------- > > Arla, Do you by any chance know Bill and Patsy Overstreet? They live in > > Kountze, TX now but at one time they lived in Victoria, TX and raised > > Appaloosa horses. I know she had one she called Freckles. > > fay

Only it was not America before contact from the out side , the natives had their own names for it. Might use First Peoples ? Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crazy Diamond" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > I'm starting to use "First Americans". > Please note I have another e-mail address now. It is [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: Tammy Jones <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:53 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing > > > >I don't think anyone is posting to this list. I would like to have some > >discussions about the term Native American (which most people are using) > vs. > >American Indian (which I prefer) > >Tammy > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Dodie" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:45 PM > >Subject: [CHAHTA] testing > > > > > >> testing > >> I have not gotten any post since Aug. 14 th. > >> >

Judith: Your paintings are wonderful. Yes, I would love to see the one you said you could e-mail. I haven't had time to check out the museum in Mexico yet but did check out the other two. I seldom can afford art, single parent, but am sometimes asked about Indian artist. You will certainly will be recommend. If my budget every improve (I hope) I will just have to gift myself with one of your works. I love Indian art and yours are exceptional. Thank you for sharing, I so enjoyed looking at them. Dodie Judith Durr wrote: > Halito Dodie, > The museum work is for the state of Jalisco, Mexico in the Museum of History > and Anthropology in Mexico City. You will need to search for their site and > look for infomation there. I don't believe there is a site specific to the > work. I will try to e-mail you a photo, if you are interested, of a 4 foot > by 5 foot piece that's in the museum in Mexico. However, check out two > places on the net where my work is. 1) www.choctawnation.com Click on the > home page for Choctaw Artists and there is a picture of me and one of the > large paintings of Delaware Mocassins. I believe my address is there if you > want to contact me; and 2) www.jcgltd.com is Joan Cawley Gallery in > Scottsdale, Arizona who publishes and carries my work. Click, Artists, and > then click the arrow beside Tony Abeyta's name and there will be an > alpabetical listing of artists. Look for Judith Durr and click. My page > will pop up. This is a small sampling of my paintings and of the artifacts > used in my work. I research each piece and know lots of the artisans whos > work I recreate. The Heard Museum in Phoenix, archeologist and > anthropologist around the world have helped me with my work. I want to > maintain the heritage of each of the cultures I depict. > > Our heritage is interesting. I glad for this site. I learn by listening to > many of the people who visit here. It's been helpful to me. > > Judith > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dodie <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Is there an "exact" answer > > >Judith: > >I'm Chahta/Chorokee/French. Thank you sooo much for the information. I > found it > >so very interesting. I don't guess the Museum you have work in would be on > line? > >I would really enjoy seeing some of your work. Sounds like you have the > perfect > >job, in my opinion. > >Thank you for sharing this with us. > >Dodie > > > >Judith Durr wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> I'm mixed blood also and proud of my Choctaw / Cherokee heritage. When > >> people meet me, they question my heritage because of my looks. I'm light > >> brown haired, green eyed and with light skin(I let them know my father, > >> English/German is responsible my looks. My mother is dark skinned, black > >> haired and blue eyed. My grandparents, had the "Choctaw, Native > American, > >> First People" look. The Navajo people use the the term Dine', "The > People". > >> My Grandparents lived in Pond Creek, OK and moved to Arizona in the > 1934. > >> We were taught to respect all cultures and do the best we could possibly > do > >> to maintain ours. All of these terms are used to recognize and describe > who > >> we are to others for their understanding. I know who I am and am very > proud > >> of this. I prefer, Choctaw. However any of the other respectful terms > of > >> description will do. There will always be controversy even among > ourselves. > >> Respect for ourselves is most important. > >> > >> I'm an artist who work recreates paintings based in reseached information > of > >> North and South American artifacts. I'm not an expert, however I have to > >> research all the artifacts used in my paintings. I have done extensive > >> research with Archeologist from Mexico and Arizona on their projects. I > have > >> work in the Museum of History and Anthropology in Mexico City, Mexico. > >> Through my own research and some of the experts in the Anthropological > field > >> say there are similarities to the the Aztec culture with the artwork, the > >> burial sites, the ballgames, stories, ect. The ballgame and stories were > >> some of the areas that my research was focused on for work in the museum > in > >> Mexico. > >> > >> The "Mound People" are said to be desended from a similar culture. This > is > >> one area that I am interested in because of my heritage. The 5 tribes > and > >> possibly others came from them. The Aztec culture has been known to > reach > >> up into Arizona and New Mexico with the trade. Their trade routes were > >> extensive and some people forget that trade routes were in Canada, Mexico > >> and South America before Columbus ever set foot in the Americas. In > ruins > >> in Arizona, Gulf Coast shells and shell jewlery have been found in the > >> desert. We don't have an ocean in this area...Mexico is the closest. > This > >> is one example of trade. > >> > >> The Hopi and similar cultures have stories about migration to the 4 > >> directions. Their beginings seem to have connections to South America > and > >> Mexico. In the migration, they are to have traveled to the end of the > land > >> in all 4 directions. Canada is known as the back door in Hopi stories. > >> There are stories that say they went to get water from each direction and > >> then went to Oriabi, the center of the earth for them. This is > paraphased. > >> > >> Remember, that in stories, myth and legend, there is a kernal of truth... > >> > >> Hope this helps. > >> > >> Judith > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Dodie <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >> Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 8:02 AM > >> Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] Is there an "exact" answer > >> > >> >I live in TX and get the same thing. I am mixed blood and people here > >> assume I am > >> >Mexican. I have been asked if I speak English many times and I do not > have > >> a real > >> >dark complexion. It is because we have a large Mexican population here > and > >> of > >> >course we are related to the Mexican people, so share many of the same > >> features. > >> >I read some where that the Chahta are/may be from the Aztec. Does anyone > >> else > >> >know of this? I think I read this somewhere on the net. I'm terrible > about > >> >finding something then forgetting to bookmark it. I too am very proud of > my > >> >Chahta blood and always say I am Chahta. > >> >Dodie > >> > > >> >[email protected] wrote: > >> > > >> >> Reading all these discussions about what we should call ourselves, I > was > >> >> reminded of what had happened to me recently. I was asked what > >> nationality > >> >> I am, to which I replied. "Choctaw". Their response was: "What's > >> that?" > >> >> I had to explain that I am a member of the Choctaw Tribe of Oklahoma > >> while > >> >> living in SE Texas where most seem to assume that I am Hispanic by my > >> >> coloring. I do prefer to be called Choctaw over any other > nationality. > >> >> Trish > >> >> > >> >> ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > >> >> Choctaw Home Page: > >> >> http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > >> > > >> > > >> >==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > >> >To Unsubscribe: > >> >Send msg. to [email protected] > >> >Put "one" word in "body" of message:... 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I don't know Arla. Patsy is my sister and I don't know a lot about Bill's family. I'm dumb about the word Chata, what does it mean? fay ----- Original Message ----- From: John & Arla Williams <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 22, 1980 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing( Isuba Chata) > Fay, > Are they part of the Overstreet Family from Keota? I have met several of the Overstreet Family. > For those of you who don't know, the Overstreet Kerr Historical Farm is a homestead that was Chata Allotment land. The homestead was given to the Kerr Foundation to be used as a teaching tool. They have lots of kids and adults come through. We do their fall Farmfest each year in October. We demonstrate 1800's things such as woodwork,basketweaving,soapmaking,sorgum making,etc. > There are a lot of the original things in the house and has the history of the place also. > They have had Chata Pigs,Ponies and had a buffalo last year. Don't know if Jim still has everything now. > The land has a lot of feeling to it when you walk it. > Arla > > ---------- > > Arla, Do you by any chance know Bill and Patsy Overstreet? They live in > > Kountze, TX now but at one time they lived in Victoria, TX and raised > > Appaloosa horses. I know she had one she called Freckles. > > fay > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John & Arla Williams <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 1980 2:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing( Isuba Chata) > > > > > > > Brandi, > > > They are the most wonderful horses. The first two horses that I worked > > on,I am an Equine Sports Massage Therapist, were Isuba Chata. I also am > > involved with the Overstreet Kerr Historical Farm and they had Isuba Chata > > there for a while. > > > They have a wonderful nature about them.Gilbert Jones had some also. > > > The paper that Durant sends out about them is a good paper. > > > Arla > > > > > > ---------- > > > > Thank you, > > > > I have been horse crazy since i was a baby, and so is my daughter, shes > > 7 and > > > > is intent to enter our rodeo here in town next year. She is alot worse > > than i > > > > was at that age! > > > > Thanks again, I had not heard of them till i saw mention of them in a > > > > calender from my Choctaw membership last year. > > > > > > > > Brandi > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... >

Chahta means Choctaw Choctaw is the English spelling Chahta is the Choctaw spelling. ----- Original Message ----- From: faynshep <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing( Isuba Chata) > I don't know Arla. Patsy is my sister and I don't know a lot about Bill's > family. I'm dumb about the word Chata, what does it mean? > fay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John & Arla Williams <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, August 22, 1980 4:55 PM > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing( Isuba Chata) > > > > Fay, > > Are they part of the Overstreet Family from Keota? I have met several > of the Overstreet Family. > > For those of you who don't know, the Overstreet Kerr Historical Farm is > a homestead that was Chata Allotment land. The homestead was given to the > Kerr Foundation to be used as a teaching tool. They have lots of kids and > adults come through. We do their fall Farmfest each year in October. We > demonstrate 1800's things such as woodwork,basketweaving,soapmaking,sorgum > making,etc. > > There are a lot of the original things in the house and has the history > of the place also. > > They have had Chata Pigs,Ponies and had a buffalo last year. Don't know > if Jim still has everything now. > > The land has a lot of feeling to it when you walk it. > > Arla > > > > ---------- > > > Arla, Do you by any chance know Bill and Patsy Overstreet? They live in > > > Kountze, TX now but at one time they lived in Victoria, TX and raised > > > Appaloosa horses. I know she had one she called Freckles. > > > fay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: John & Arla Williams <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 1980 2:48 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CHAHTA] testing( Isuba Chata) > > > > > > > > > > Brandi, > > > > They are the most wonderful horses. The first two horses that I > worked > > > on,I am an Equine Sports Massage Therapist, were Isuba Chata. I also am > > > involved with the Overstreet Kerr Historical Farm and they had Isuba > Chata > > > there for a while. > > > > They have a wonderful nature about them.Gilbert Jones had some > also. > > > > The paper that Durant sends out about them is a good paper. > > > > Arla > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > I have been horse crazy since i was a baby, and so is my daughter, > shes > > > 7 and > > > > > is intent to enter our rodeo here in town next year. She is alot > worse > > > than i > > > > > was at that age! > > > > > Thanks again, I had not heard of them till i saw mention of them > in a > > > > > calender from my Choctaw membership last year. > > > > > > > > > > Brandi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > quotes > > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > > Choctaw Home Page: > > > > http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > ==== CHAHTA Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L: > Send msg. to [email protected] > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >