Dear Moira As Ira told you, the IRN is for permanent reference to a record. However, you may wish to use the standard event REFN (User Reference Number) for any personal numbering system you wish to use. If it is of any use is another question. I wonder. Kind regards, Jens >I'd just like to be able to re-number or re-index them all! >Hoping you (or someone out there) can help, but thanks for the thought,