Christian I echo George's earlier comments - as a member of this list and having nothing whatsoever to do with it's excellent operation, I consider such comments totally inappropriate and unjustified, particularly when describing someone who we do not know, but who does an excellent job for no remuneration. Over the past two years I have received nothing but useful advice and help from both the Administrator and other members of this list, and I for one am more than willing to support them wherever I can. Rick (where the SMTP servers administrators are anything but clueless > system administrators).

Quoting Ernie Drabble (ernie@drabblembe.freeserve.co.uk): > I echo George's earlier comments - as a member of this list and having > nothing whatsoever to do with it's excellent operation, I consider such > comments totally inappropriate and unjustified, particularly when describing > someone who we do not know, but who does an excellent job for no > remuneration. Over the past two years I have received nothing but useful > advice and help from both the Administrator and other members of this list, > and I for one am more than willing to support them wherever I can. THe problem is not the way this list is administered. The problem is the way rootsweb servers are administered. Doing volunteer work does not prevent to be professionnal. The choices made for Rootsweb server (which seems to be refusing mail when reverse DNS lookup of the originating server is not operational) are very well known to be inappropriate choices, for lots of reasons, for instance by all people who have (voluntarily) participated in setting up Internet infrastructure in Africa, or some other so-called "merging" countries (just try to do reverse DNS lookups with Centrafrica for instance...). The current rootsweb server violates at least one RFC: RFC 2821 ("3.6 Domains" and moreover "4.1.4 Order of Commands" which is very clear). My own server does not.

It's time to stop this thread. It has nothing to do with the CFT-WIN Mailing List. If anyone has problems with the servers at Rootsweb, contact me PERSONALLY and do not burden the other subscribers of the List with things they don't need. Thank you, SgtGeorge George W. Durman At 3/5/04 04:16 AM Friday, Christian Perrier wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Quoting Ernie Drabble (ernie@drabblembe.freeserve.co.uk): > > > I echo George's earlier comments - as a member of this list and having > > nothing whatsoever to do with it's excellent operation, I consider such > > comments totally inappropriate and unjustified, particularly when > describing > > someone who we do not know, but who does an excellent job for no > > remuneration. Over the past two years I have received nothing but > useful > > advice and help from both the Administrator and other members of this > list, > > and I for one am more than willing to support them wherever I can. > >THe problem is not the way this list is administered. The problem is >the way rootsweb servers are administered. > >Doing volunteer work does not prevent to be professionnal. The choices >made for Rootsweb server (which seems to be refusing mail when reverse >DNS lookup of the originating server is not operational) are very well >known to be inappropriate choices, for lots of reasons, for instance >by all people who have (voluntarily) participated in setting up >Internet infrastructure in Africa, or some other so-called "merging" >countries (just try to do reverse DNS lookups with Centrafrica for >instance...). > >The current rootsweb server violates at least one RFC: RFC 2821 ("3.6 >Domains" and moreover "4.1.4 Order of Commands" which is very >clear). My own server does not. > > > > >==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== >You can contact the List Manager at: >CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.225 / Virus Database: 262.2.1 - Release Date: 3/5/04

Okay, then since it has nothing to do with this list and certainly is just uninteresting techno-babble that has nothing to do with the rest of us list members, could you please take this discussion off-list and deal directly with whomever will likely be able to resolve your problem. I think most of us have heard more about this issue now than is tolerable considering only you are affected. Thank you for your consideration of the rest of us by doing so. Good luck in your quest. Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Perrier" <bubulle@kheops.frmug.org> To: <CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [CFTW] (forw) Strange mail server setup at rootsweb.com > Quoting Ernie Drabble (ernie@drabblembe.freeserve.co.uk): > > > I echo George's earlier comments - as a member of this list and having > > nothing whatsoever to do with it's excellent operation, I consider such > > comments totally inappropriate and unjustified, particularly when describing > > someone who we do not know, but who does an excellent job for no > > remuneration. Over the past two years I have received nothing but useful > > advice and help from both the Administrator and other members of this list, > > and I for one am more than willing to support them wherever I can. > > THe problem is not the way this list is administered. The problem is > the way rootsweb servers are administered. > > Doing volunteer work does not prevent to be professionnal. The choices > made for Rootsweb server (which seems to be refusing mail when reverse > DNS lookup of the originating server is not operational) are very well > known to be inappropriate choices, for lots of reasons, for instance > by all people who have (voluntarily) participated in setting up > Internet infrastructure in Africa, or some other so-called "merging" > countries (just try to do reverse DNS lookups with Centrafrica for > instance...). > > The current rootsweb server violates at least one RFC: RFC 2821 ("3.6 > Domains" and moreover "4.1.4 Order of Commands" which is very > clear). My own server does not. > > > > > ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Rosemary, Isn't that EXACTLY what I said in my post? Just for anyone's information, it is the duty and privilege of the manager of a Mailing List to tell anyone to "take a discussion off-list". Your comment/complaint should have been addressed to me personally, not to the List. Regards, George W. Durman List Manager At 3/5/04 08:48 PM Friday, Rosemary Jorgenson wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Okay, then since it has nothing to do with this list and certainly is just >uninteresting techno-babble that has nothing to do with the rest of us >list >members, could you please take this discussion off-list and deal directly >with whomever will likely be able to resolve your problem. I think most of >us have heard more about this issue now than is tolerable considering only >you are affected. Thank you for your consideration of the rest of us by >doing so. Good luck in your quest. >Rosemary >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.225 / Virus Database: 262.2.1 - Release Date: 3/5/04