I do not have a ready response to this. I would have to do some digging and testing. There may well be some bugs. I will make a note to check it next release. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software www.cf-software.com -----Original Message----- From: Les Bedford [mailto:LB54@uk2.net] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:38 AM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CFTW] GEDCOM Export/Import I'm transferring data between two CFTW databases (3.14.d) using GEDCOM 5.5, and I'm having a problem that the data I end up with in the destination database isn't quite the same as I started with in the source database. To illustrate the problem, in my original database I set up an individual with six events, every event having both "Miscellaneous Data" and "Notes". His story reads: Fred was baptised January 1, 1901 at London, England by Rev J P Morgan. This is a BAPM event Fred lived January 1, 1925 in London, England Miscellaneous data. This is a RESI event Fred's occupation was blacksmith January 1, 1960 at London, England. This is an OCCU event Fred lived January 1, 1970 at 1 Smith Street, London Miscellaneous data. This is an ADDR event Fred died January 1, 1980 of old age at London, England. This is a DEAT event London, England - January 1, 1999: Miscellaneous data This is a User-Added event When I export this to a GEDCOM, and then import the GEDCOM back into CFTW, the story then reads: Fred was baptised January 1, 1901 at London, England by Rev J P Morgan. Description: Rev J P MorganThis is a BAPM event Fred lived January 1, 1925 in London, England Miscellaneous data. Description: Miscellaneous dataThis is a RESI event Fred's occupation was blacksmith January 1, 1960 at London, England. This is an OCCU event Fred lived January 1, 1970 at 1 Smith Street, London Miscellaneous data. This is an ADDR event Fred died January 1, 1980 of old age at London, England. Description: old ageThis is a DEAT event London, England - January 1, 1999: Miscellaneous data Description: Miscellaneous dataThis is a User-Added event In this example, the ADDR and OCCU Events work OK, but for the others the "Miscellaneous Data" gets imported twice, once into the Miscellaneous Data field (as it should be), and then a second time into the Notes field, along with the "Description: " from the GEDCOM. (BTW, on my database I've used the Story Editor to change some of the standard "Stories", but I don't think that this is the cause of the problem.) I've tried a number of different Events; ADDR, NALT & OCCU work OK, but BAPM, BIRT, BURI, CENS, DEAT, MARR, RESI & User-added events all have the same problem. There also seems to be a further issue with "Cause of Death", which is exported by CFTW as: 1 DEAT 2 NOTE Description: old age rather than the way that I think it should be on GEDCOM 5.5: 1 DEAT 2 CAUS old age Similarly GEDCOM's which do have "CAUS" lines are not *imported* correctly into CFTW - e.g. you end up with "2 CAUS old age" in the Notes, rather than "old age" in the Miscellaneous Data. Regards -- Les Bedford ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from CFT-WIN, send an e-mail message to: CFT-WIN-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) CFT-WIN-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command)

Ira Thank you. Sorry to be the bearer of more bad news, but I'm afraid I've got another problem for you. It's based on the same scenario, Exporting from CFTW and Importing back into CFTW, but this time the problem is that the source Citations are getting mixed up. It's happening with sources attached to both Individuals and Events, and can easily be reproduced as follows: Set up a single Individual, no Events. Give the Individual two sources as follows: Source 1 Film/Vol/Page: Entry date: Feb 2003 Note: Source 2 Film/Vol/Page: 111111111 Entry date: Note: 2222222222222 At this stage, the Descendant Story looks like this: Descendant Story 1. John Smith {1, 2} CITATIONS 1 Source 1. {1} Feb 2003. 2 Source 2. {2} 111111111. 2222222222222. BIBLIOGRAPHY 1 Source 1. 2 Source 2. Export the individual to GEDCOM, and re-import. The citations for *both* sources now read: Film/Vol/Page: 111111111 Entry date: Feb 2003 Note: 2222222222222 and the Descendant Story reads: Descendant Story 1. John Smith {1, 2} CITATIONS 1 Source 1. {1} 111111111, Feb 2003. 2222222222222. 2 Source 2. {2} 111111111, Feb 2003. 2222222222222. BIBLIOGRAPHY 1 Source 1. 2 Source 2. BTW, I've had a number of similar problems with sources & citations, & I'm not 100% convinced that this is the only combination of data which is causing them. I've also got a feeling that Citations from different Individuals, and from different Events for the same Individual, may also be getting mixed up, too, though it's quite tricky to track down exactly what is happening. Regards Les In message <200411221421.iAMELHDa004976@cf-software.com>, Ira J Lund <ira.lund@cf-software.com> writes >I do not have a ready response to this. I would have to do some digging and >testing. There may well be some bugs. I will make a note to check it next >release. > >Ira >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-------- >Mr. Ira J. Lund >Cumberland Family Software >www.cf-software.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Les Bedford [mailto:LB54@uk2.net] >Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:38 AM >To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [CFTW] GEDCOM Export/Import > >I'm transferring data between two CFTW databases (3.14.d) using GEDCOM >5.5, and I'm having a problem that the data I end up with in the >destination database isn't quite the same as I started with in the >source database. > >To illustrate the problem, in my original database I set up an >individual with six events, every event having both "Miscellaneous Data" >and "Notes". His story reads: > >Fred was baptised January 1, 1901 at London, England by Rev J P Morgan. >This is a BAPM event >Fred lived January 1, 1925 in London, England Miscellaneous data. This >is a RESI event >Fred's occupation was blacksmith January 1, 1960 at London, England. >This is an OCCU event >Fred lived January 1, 1970 at 1 Smith Street, London Miscellaneous data. >This is an ADDR event >Fred died January 1, 1980 of old age at London, England. This is a DEAT >event >London, England - January 1, 1999: Miscellaneous data This is a >User-Added event > >When I export this to a GEDCOM, and then import the GEDCOM back into >CFTW, the story then reads: > >Fred was baptised January 1, 1901 at London, England by Rev J P Morgan. >Description: Rev J P MorganThis is a BAPM event >Fred lived January 1, 1925 in London, England Miscellaneous data. >Description: Miscellaneous dataThis is a RESI event >Fred's occupation was blacksmith January 1, 1960 at London, England. >This is an OCCU event >Fred lived January 1, 1970 at 1 Smith Street, London Miscellaneous data. >This is an ADDR event >Fred died January 1, 1980 of old age at London, England. Description: >old ageThis is a DEAT event >London, England - January 1, 1999: Miscellaneous data Description: >Miscellaneous dataThis is a User-Added event > >In this example, the ADDR and OCCU Events work OK, but for the others >the "Miscellaneous Data" gets imported twice, once into the >Miscellaneous Data field (as it should be), and then a second time into >the Notes field, along with the "Description: " from the GEDCOM. (BTW, >on my database I've used the Story Editor to change some of the standard >"Stories", but I don't think that this is the cause of the problem.) > >I've tried a number of different Events; ADDR, NALT & OCCU work OK, but >BAPM, BIRT, BURI, CENS, DEAT, MARR, RESI & User-added events all have >the same problem. > >There also seems to be a further issue with "Cause of Death", which is >exported by CFTW as: > 1 DEAT > 2 NOTE Description: old age > >rather than the way that I think it should be on GEDCOM 5.5: > 1 DEAT > 2 CAUS old age > >Similarly GEDCOM's which do have "CAUS" lines are not *imported* >correctly into CFTW - e.g. you end up with "2 CAUS old age" in the >Notes, rather than "old age" in the Miscellaneous Data. > >Regards -- Les Bedford

Ok. I will put that on the list also. Ira ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Mr. Ira J. Lund Cumberland Family Software www.cf-software.com -----Original Message----- From: Les Bedford [mailto:LB54@uk2.net] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:33 AM To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CFTW] GEDCOM Export/Import Ira Thank you. Sorry to be the bearer of more bad news, but I'm afraid I've got another problem for you. It's based on the same scenario, Exporting from CFTW and Importing back into CFTW, but this time the problem is that the source Citations are getting mixed up. It's happening with sources attached to both Individuals and Events, and can easily be reproduced as follows: Set up a single Individual, no Events. Give the Individual two sources as follows: Source 1 Film/Vol/Page: Entry date: Feb 2003 Note: Source 2 Film/Vol/Page: 111111111 Entry date: Note: 2222222222222 At this stage, the Descendant Story looks like this: Descendant Story 1. John Smith {1, 2} CITATIONS 1 Source 1. {1} Feb 2003. 2 Source 2. {2} 111111111. 2222222222222. BIBLIOGRAPHY 1 Source 1. 2 Source 2. Export the individual to GEDCOM, and re-import. The citations for *both* sources now read: Film/Vol/Page: 111111111 Entry date: Feb 2003 Note: 2222222222222 and the Descendant Story reads: Descendant Story 1. John Smith {1, 2} CITATIONS 1 Source 1. {1} 111111111, Feb 2003. 2222222222222. 2 Source 2. {2} 111111111, Feb 2003. 2222222222222. BIBLIOGRAPHY 1 Source 1. 2 Source 2. BTW, I've had a number of similar problems with sources & citations, & I'm not 100% convinced that this is the only combination of data which is causing them. I've also got a feeling that Citations from different Individuals, and from different Events for the same Individual, may also be getting mixed up, too, though it's quite tricky to track down exactly what is happening. Regards Les In message <200411221421.iAMELHDa004976@cf-software.com>, Ira J Lund <ira.lund@cf-software.com> writes >I do not have a ready response to this. I would have to do some digging and >testing. There may well be some bugs. I will make a note to check it next >release. > >Ira >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >-------- >Mr. Ira J. Lund >Cumberland Family Software >www.cf-software.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Les Bedford [mailto:LB54@uk2.net] >Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:38 AM >To: CFT-WIN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [CFTW] GEDCOM Export/Import > >I'm transferring data between two CFTW databases (3.14.d) using GEDCOM >5.5, and I'm having a problem that the data I end up with in the >destination database isn't quite the same as I started with in the >source database. > >To illustrate the problem, in my original database I set up an >individual with six events, every event having both "Miscellaneous Data" >and "Notes". His story reads: > >Fred was baptised January 1, 1901 at London, England by Rev J P Morgan. >This is a BAPM event >Fred lived January 1, 1925 in London, England Miscellaneous data. This >is a RESI event >Fred's occupation was blacksmith January 1, 1960 at London, England. >This is an OCCU event >Fred lived January 1, 1970 at 1 Smith Street, London Miscellaneous data. >This is an ADDR event >Fred died January 1, 1980 of old age at London, England. This is a DEAT >event >London, England - January 1, 1999: Miscellaneous data This is a >User-Added event > >When I export this to a GEDCOM, and then import the GEDCOM back into >CFTW, the story then reads: > >Fred was baptised January 1, 1901 at London, England by Rev J P Morgan. >Description: Rev J P MorganThis is a BAPM event >Fred lived January 1, 1925 in London, England Miscellaneous data. >Description: Miscellaneous dataThis is a RESI event >Fred's occupation was blacksmith January 1, 1960 at London, England. >This is an OCCU event >Fred lived January 1, 1970 at 1 Smith Street, London Miscellaneous data. >This is an ADDR event >Fred died January 1, 1980 of old age at London, England. Description: >old ageThis is a DEAT event >London, England - January 1, 1999: Miscellaneous data Description: >Miscellaneous dataThis is a User-Added event > >In this example, the ADDR and OCCU Events work OK, but for the others >the "Miscellaneous Data" gets imported twice, once into the >Miscellaneous Data field (as it should be), and then a second time into >the Notes field, along with the "Description: " from the GEDCOM. (BTW, >on my database I've used the Story Editor to change some of the standard >"Stories", but I don't think that this is the cause of the problem.) > >I've tried a number of different Events; ADDR, NALT & OCCU work OK, but >BAPM, BIRT, BURI, CENS, DEAT, MARR, RESI & User-added events all have >the same problem. > >There also seems to be a further issue with "Cause of Death", which is >exported by CFTW as: > 1 DEAT > 2 NOTE Description: old age > >rather than the way that I think it should be on GEDCOM 5.5: > 1 DEAT > 2 CAUS old age > >Similarly GEDCOM's which do have "CAUS" lines are not *imported* >correctly into CFTW - e.g. you end up with "2 CAUS old age" in the >Notes, rather than "old age" in the Miscellaneous Data. > >Regards -- Les Bedford ==== CFT-WIN Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: CFT-WIN-admin@rootsweb.com