Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:11:03 +1100, Mike Calder : >> Thus my events should really say: >> >> %N emigrated from %P >> %N immigrated to %P If you want your place fields to tell as little as possible - yes, do it your way But if you want to put the most important information in the place field, the answer obviously is NO. Every person in the emigration archive for a certain country of course emigrated from that country. But they emigrated to DIFFERENT countries - that is the important information to collect and put in the place field. If you write that Frida Rage emigrated from Norway using the Emigration Archive for Stavanger Norway as the source - you have omitted the most important place information in that archive. That is the place she went TO - USA. Every person working with the immigration archives at Ellis Island, of course knows that every person in this archive immigrated to USA. It will be really stupid to put that in the place field - when you have just one field. The most important information of course is the place they came FROM. >Being a pedantic bastard I have checked the Oxford (UK), WEBSTERS (1894 - >USA) and the MACQUARIE (Australia). All use the definitions above. Well, since I am another pedantic bastard, I will quote "Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. Fifth edition. Oxford University Press 1995" page 377: "emigrate /'emigreit/ v- (from...) (to...) to leave one's own country and go to live permanently in another: [Vpr] emigrate from Poland to Australia to find work [also V] emigrant /'emigrent/ n a person who emigrates: emigrants to Canada" [Vpr] = verb + prepositional phrase [V] = verb used alone Oxford Dictionary uses "Emigrants TO Canada" as an example. From a Norwegian Dictionary: "Bokmålsordboka. Universitetsforlaget 1986" page 123: "emigrere utvandre, flytte til et annet land, hun emigrerte til USA" Translated: "emigrate move out, move to another country, she emigrated TO USA" These two examples show that Mike Calder's understanding is not the one used in these two dictionaries. So I am sorry to observe that Ira has screwed it up with his change in 3.07. In all future releases of Cftw, I will change it back to "Emigrated to" and "Immigrated from". Sigurd Eliassen Norway